salvation progress. sort of..

Great post brother. Thank you for sharing.

The descriptions that are known to me about the Father are listed in my signature after having done a scripture study of understanding what our Father who resides in heaven is like.

To your own sharing also have had issues with understanding God; and whom He is and about the Lord Jesus Christ; it is amazing to know they are the embodiment of Love.

Christ Jesus loved His Father; and prayed and called out to Him in his distress and need and helped him to overcome the temptations in life that we normally if we react upon tend to be hateful, mean, judgmental, towards others. Christ experienced that on our behalf that when we have struggles we can call out to the Father, and also know that the Lord Jesus Christ has forgiven us of our past mistakes, present mistakes, and future mistakes.

Living by the spirit causes us to have love, compassion, mercy, forgiveness, forbearing others, in this life by dying to ourselves and living for Christ.

Lifelong_sinner said:

hello all. so i have really been struggling for the last couple of years concerning getting saved. earlier last week, i made a post about the steps that lead to salvation. everyone seemed to agree with my list and order, but something was wrong. i know that Gods plan is perfect, so i knew i was making a mistake somewhere. but where?

it turns out, a few people had chimed in on an older post i made asking what people thought judgement day would be like. most were upbeat, or thought it would be great. my idea of judgement day, most thought was crazy/ not truthful. i think it'll be the worst day ever. i had suggested that Jesus would be so angry with me at my judgement, that He may even strike me before throwing me in hell. i dont think anyone thought the same. so last nite, this topic popped back up into my head, and i realized that because i had a very abusive step father growing up, i had assumed God is the same way.

so now, i am trying to learn how to forgive my stepfather, and understand and believe that God is not the same as him. so i think progress has been made, now i know why i think He is like i do, but i realize im still not saved, but one step closer hopefully. i never really gave much thought to my childhood, and so i thought i had moved on. but i find i have a lot of rage that i simply buried. and now its time to get it under control.

so if anyone out there, reads this and doubts or questions their own salvation, might i suggest you start with asking yourself how do you view God. also if you fear God, is it the right kind of fear. i think before we can accept our own salvation, we first have to decide who God really is, according to the Bible.

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Well, the important thing is just to keep taking steps, and each day try to make just a little bit more forward progress than you maybe had the day before, if you can...

Glad to hear your making progress, or that you feel that way, don't give up my friend...

God is neither cruel, nor a tyrant, and most certainly not an unjust, abusive one, like many of our earthly fathers can be, so...

Keep going friend...

Peace

God Bless!

I discovered during CBT that I had pent up rage. The Lord put compassion in me for the person who hurt me. Searching within ourselves is sometimes easier said than done, and our preconceived ideas about the nature of God can certainly hinder our walk and salvation...Praying for yours to be realised and accepted soon (&mine)
Numbers 6:24-26

Lifelong_sinner said:

hello all. so i have really been struggling for the last couple of years concerning getting saved. earlier last week, i made a post about the steps that lead to salvation. everyone seemed to agree with my list and order, but something was wrong. i know that Gods plan is perfect, so i knew i was making a mistake somewhere. but where?

it turns out, a few people had chimed in on an older post i made asking what people thought judgement day would be like. most were upbeat, or thought it would be great. my idea of judgement day, most thought was crazy/ not truthful. i think it'll be the worst day ever. i had suggested that Jesus would be so angry with me at my judgement, that He may even strike me before throwing me in hell. i dont think anyone thought the same. so last nite, this topic popped back up into my head, and i realized that because i had a very abusive step father growing up, i had assumed God is the same way.

so now, i am trying to learn how to forgive my stepfather, and understand and believe that God is not the same as him. so i think progress has been made, now i know why i think He is like i do, but i realize im still not saved, but one step closer hopefully. i never really gave much thought to my childhood, and so i thought i had moved on. but i find i have a lot of rage that i simply buried. and now its time to get it under control.

so if anyone out there, reads this and doubts or questions their own salvation, might i suggest you start with asking yourself how do you view God. also if you fear God, is it the right kind of fear. i think before we can accept our own salvation, we first have to decide who God really is, according to the Bible.

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I think that forgiving difficult relationships or abuse can be a journey. The effort / struggle to forgive and work through stuff is a part of the same journey as our salvation, if it is within and because of faith in Christ.

Don’t be too hard on yourself. A lot of us are on this journey.

It's suffering friends.

Hebrews 5:
8 Even though Jesus was God’s Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered. 9 In this way, God qualified him as a perfect High Priest, and he became the source of eternal salvation for all those who obey him.

It is suffering... through Faith and Love in obeying our Master - Jesus Christ.

Philippians 2:

5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.

6 Though he was God,
he did not think of equality with God
as something to cling to.
7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges;
he took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form,
8 he humbled himself in obedience to God
and died a criminal’s death on a cross.

Loving God, and Loving others.

To forgive those who do not deserve forgiveness
To have mercy to those who do not deserve mercy
To become humble, and lowly.

By and through the spirit.

GallagherM said:

It's suffering friends.

Hebrews 5:
8 Even though Jesus was God’s Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered. 9 In this way, God qualified him as a perfect High Priest, and he became the source of eternal salvation for all those who obey him.

It is suffering... through Faith and Love in obeying our Master - Jesus Christ.

Philippians 2:

5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.

6 Though he was God,
he did not think of equality with God
as something to cling to.
7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges;
he took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form,
8 he humbled himself in obedience to God
and died a criminal’s death on a cross.

Loving God, and Loving others.

To forgive those who do not deserve forgiveness
To have mercy to those who do not deserve mercy
To become humble, and lowly.

By and through the spirit.

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Well, if your a relatively quick learner/study, hopefully you won't have to suffer as much as our Lord did, etc, and perhaps it will only be for a season, or you will go through times and/or seasons that are also balanced out by maybe equal periods of joy and/or happiness maybe, etc...

None of us can do all our Lord did, and I think God knows that, etc...

But all the rest of this reply, "spot on", etc...

Why I'm giving it a "like", etc...

Anyway...

Peace

God Bless!

Lifelong_sinner said:

hello all. so i have really been struggling for the last couple of years concerning getting saved. earlier last week, i made a post about the steps that lead to salvation. everyone seemed to agree with my list and order, but something was wrong. i know that Gods plan is perfect, so i knew i was making a mistake somewhere. but where?

it turns out, a few people had chimed in on an older post i made asking what people thought judgement day would be like. most were upbeat, or thought it would be great. my idea of judgement day, most thought was crazy/ not truthful. i think it'll be the worst day ever. i had suggested that Jesus would be so angry with me at my judgement, that He may even strike me before throwing me in hell. i dont think anyone thought the same. so last nite, this topic popped back up into my head, and i realized that because i had a very abusive step father growing up, i had assumed God is the same way.

so now, i am trying to learn how to forgive my stepfather, and understand and believe that God is not the same as him. so i think progress has been made, now i know why i think He is like i do, but i realize im still not saved, but one step closer hopefully. i never really gave much thought to my childhood, and so i thought i had moved on. but i find i have a lot of rage that i simply buried. and now its time to get it under control.

so if anyone out there, reads this and doubts or questions their own salvation, might i suggest you start with asking yourself how do you view God. also if you fear God, is it the right kind of fear. i think before we can accept our own salvation, we first have to decide who God really is, according to the Bible.

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First of all, I had an abusive dad. Violent and psychologically abusive. I have meet epople I cinsider have had a worse childhood than me, but you could count them on one hand and Im 50 now so thats a lot of people Ive met over the years. Itss also wirth mentioning my dad really hated God. I dont mean the far more common hating the idea of God without knowing Him like most people who say they hate God mean, with him I think he knew God and hated him.

When I got saved it was a bit different. A friend was going to what I thought was a wackadoodle loony happy clappy church but I went to his baptism. By the end of the service they prayed the sinners prayer and I just sort of agreed with what they were saying as what I thought a Christian was. Without realising I was praying the sinners prayer and meaning it and quite simply met with God.

Your background isnt an obstacle to God, so simply have to accept Him. Pray that you believe Jesus is the Son of God who died for your sins and was raised again, victorious over sin and death. Thats your first step.

And as for forgiveness, your first step is to choose to want to forgive. Choose that if you see them you wont treat them how their abuse deserves. Work through it in prayer. Place it in Gods hands. WHen you find yourself feeling or talking about them in a way that shows you havent forgiven them, stop yourself asnd reaffirm that you want to firgive them. I have now reached the point where I dont see it as forgiving people, I see it as when you havent forgiven them you are holding on to unforgiveness. When you are ready you need to let go of the unforgiveness you are holding on to. There may be times you pick it up again, but you just need to work through to letting go again and again until you stop picking it up. I find this way of thinking helps me anyway.

GirdYourLoins said:

wackadoodle loony happy clappy church

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Funny