Psalms 91 Vaccine vs Faith

Marc Munday said:

I have no issue with people getting vaccinated just don't put your faith in it, I am not getting it but go for it of you and have faith that God will protect you. I will still hug and love you my brothers and sisters right until the end day only God knows what our heart is of.

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Can we be real with one another for a second? I'm asking you directly whether you are saying that belief in Psalms 91 encourages one not to be vaccinated.

It's a yes or no question.

Thanks for answering as far as you were willing to go.

It was just a question.

Have a wonderful day.

Marc Munday said:

I am always real brother but your loaded question is directed at the wrong spirit here my belief is my belief, yours is yours. It does not say have faith in me take a vaccine made from men I will go that far.

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Do you regard everything written in the Bible as instructions directed to you?

Many people who love God and believe the Bible have gotten sick and died from Covid.

ironbjorn said:

Many people who love God and believe the Bible have gotten sick and died from Covid.

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Not to mention, vaccines didn't exist during the time the Bible was written.

...In the same way, I don't think television is sinful when the national geographic channel does a show on sharks or deep sea fish.

Marc Munday said:

PSALMS 91
1Those who live in the shelter of the Most High
will find rest in the shadow of the Almighty.
2This I declare about the Lord:
He alone is my refuge, my place of safety;
he is my God, and I trust him.
3For he will rescue you from every trap
and protect you from deadly disease.
4He will cover you with his feathers.
He will shelter you with his wings.
His faithful promises are your armor and protection.
5Do not be afraid of the terrors of the night,
nor the arrow that flies in the day.
6Do not dread the disease that stalks in darkness,
nor the disaster that strikes at midday.
7Though a thousand fall at your side,
though ten thousand are dying around you,
these evils will not touch you.
8Just open your eyes,
and see how the wicked are punished.

9If you make the Lord your refuge,
if you make the Most High your shelter,
10no evil will conquer you;
no plague will come near your home.
11For he will order his angels
to protect you wherever you go.
12They will hold you up with their hands
so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.
13You will trample upon lions and cobras;
you will crush fierce lions and serpents under your feet!

14The Lord says, “I will rescue those who love me.
I will protect those who trust in my name.
15When they call on me, I will answer;
I will be with them in trouble.
I will rescue and honor them.
16I will reward them with a long life
and give them my salvation.”

This is the scripture that defines our current times for myself and this is the reason I say NO to vaccines if anyone tells me the vaccines are from God then I seriously question who their God is as mine does not cause blood clots, illness and death on the other hand I know who would cause such things...

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One could use the exact same logic to take the vaccine without fear of any adverse side effects.

I wouldn't suggest this to contradict a medical doctor's advice upon examination, if you have a pre-existing condition that makes getting a vaccine a bad idea, don't take it. But to any who don't have a doctor's advice to avoid the vaccine, this is the tiebreaker for me.

Marc Munday said:

Please post scripture so we can discuss, also voicing my belief is concern for others, should all take the mark of the beast out of concern for others as well?

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James 2
13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
14 ¶ What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

The monolithic faith of the patriarchs was rooted in concern for others, if you have a belief, an intellectual assent - but this is not coupled by concern for others that meets the need - this faith is dead. As the proverb says, better a live dog than a dead lion.

Since the mark of the beast is applied to the right hand or forehead, and is required to buy or sell - the vaccine does not qualify.

The shot is injected into your arm, and you can choose which arm you would like it to be injected into. Not having the vaccine does not result in not being able to buy groceries - so it does not line up with the requirements of scripture to be "mark of the beast"

Marc Munday said:

Matthew 23:8 (NLT)
“Don’t let anyone call you ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one teacher, and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters.

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Are you suggesting that Paul was remiss in appointing Elders?

Marc Munday said:

Do any of those things cause death by using it correctly for its intended purpose?

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when ripped out of historical context, it is not a promise to you.

God is not making any promises there. The human author is.

There is No Thus says the Lord, ...

Marc Munday said:

Matthew 23:8 (NLT)
“Don’t let anyone call you ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one teacher, and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters.

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Matthew 23
Easy-to-Read Version
Jesus Criticizes the Religious Leaders
23 Then Jesus spoke to the people and to his followers. He said, 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees have the authority to tell you what the Law of Moses says. 3 So you should obey them. Do everything they tell you to do. But their lives are not good examples for you to follow. They tell you to do things, but they don’t do those things themselves. 4 They make strict rules that are hard for people to obey. They try to force others to obey all their rules. But they themselves will not try to follow any of those rules.

5 “The only reason they do what they do is for other people to see them. They make the little Scripture boxes[a] they wear bigger and bigger. And they make the tassels on their prayer clothes long enough for people to notice them. 6 These men love to have the places of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues. 7 They love for people to show respect to them in the marketplaces and to call them ‘Teacher.’

8 “But you must not be called ‘Teacher.’ You are all equal as brothers and sisters. You have only one Teacher. 9 And don’t call anyone on earth ‘Father.’ You have one Father. He is in heaven. 10 And you should not be called ‘Master.’ You have only one Master, the Messiah. 11 Whoever serves you like a servant is the greatest among you. 12 People who think they are better than others will be made humble. But people who humble themselves will be made great.

Ripping out of historical context is just wrong.