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I believe in the resurrection of the body where our mortal body will be reunited with our soul after the second coming of Christ. My question about the resurrection of the body is "How will that benefit us?" How could it make us more complete or happy than being spiritually united to Jesus? After being separated from the body for ages, will we miss it? Will it help others recognize us?
 

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I believe in the resurrection of the body where our mortal body will be reunited with our soul after the second coming of Christ. My question about the resurrection of the body is "How will that benefit us?" How could it make us more complete or happy than being spiritually united to Jesus? After being separated from the body for ages, will we miss it? Will it help others recognize us?

Christian teaching says that humans are a body-soul composite. We aren't just a soul that inhabits a body. Rather, our identity includes soul and body. I am not a body. I am not a soul. I am a body and a soul, together.

The general resurrection is important because we do not fully exist without our body. When the soul leaves the body at death we enter into a kind of incomplete state of existence. That state is temporary, and ends with the resurrection.
 
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I believe in the resurrection of the body where our mortal body will be reunited with our soul after the second coming of Christ. My question about the resurrection of the body is "How will that benefit us?" How could it make us more complete or happy than being spiritually united to Jesus? After being separated from the body for ages, will we miss it? Will it help others recognize us?

Ghosts can't hug people. Ghosts can't plant gardens, and play with kittens, or do all the things that having bodies brings.

When God renews all of creation, He is going to renew all creation. When the Lord returns and the dead are raised, and God makes all things new--we can actually give one another hugs, and then walk in gardens, and play with the kittens, and love and serve and enjoy the eternal joyous company of one another in the perfect unity of Christ in that good world.

It's the same reason why what we do with our bodies here matters. St. Paul tells us to offer our bodies to God as living sacrifices, because our bodies matter, and what we do here in this world matters.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I believe in the resurrection of the body where our mortal body will be reunited with our soul after the second coming of Christ. My question about the resurrection of the body is "How will that benefit us?" How could it make us more complete or happy than being spiritually united to Jesus? After being separated from the body for ages, will we miss it? Will it help others recognize us?

Honestly, there is no way that the resurrection of the body will "make us more complete or happy than being spiritually united to Jesus". It's just something that will happen.
 
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I believe in the resurrection of the body where our mortal body will be reunited with our soul after the second coming of Christ. My question about the resurrection of the body is "How will that benefit us?" How could it make us more complete or happy than being spiritually united to Jesus? After being separated from the body for ages, will we miss it? Will it help others recognize us?
Only one age, the Church age.

Our spirit is incomplete without our body the whole time they are separated.

Our spirits live in temporary tents (our bodies) and, therefore, groan inwardly to be with their resurrection bodies, the solid structure (immortal, sinless, glorified) of an eternal house from God.
Yet, at the same time our spirits are much discomfited by the fact of being unclothed (dismantling of their tents by death)--found naked, between death and the resurrection (2 Corinthians 5:1-4).
They long to be clothed with their bodies.
 
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According to Paul. . .to be absent from the body was to be present with the Lord.
Paul's been "absent from the body" for a couple thousand years now, which means he is present with the Lord.
So what is present with the Lord if not his immortal spirit?

You misquote Paul. 2 Corinthians 5:6-9 says, "we are always confident; even though we know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord— 7 for we walk by faith, not by sight. 8 Yes, we do have confidence, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. 9 So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him."

I did not intend this to become a battle of different theologies. My assumption is that traditional theology from the time of the apostles believes in eternal life for the soul in heaven while it awaits the second coming of Christ, when the body will be reunited with the soul in heaven.
 
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You misquote Paul. 2 Corinthians 5:6-9 says, "we are always confident; even though we know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord— 7 for we walk by faith, not by sight. 8 Yes, we do have confidence, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. 9 So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him."

I did not intend this to become a battle of different theologies. My assumption is that traditional theology from the time of the apostles believes in eternal life for the soul in heaven while it awaits the second coming of Christ, when the body will be reunited with the soul in heaven.
I am not referring to 2 Corinthians 5:6-9. Of course, as long as we are alive on earth (in the body), we are not in heaven with Christ.

However, Paul presents his death as immediate presence with Christ, such that he desires to die so that he can be with Christ. . .which is better by far. . .for to die is gain (Philippians 1:21-23).
Nevertheless, it is more necessary for the time being that he remain in the body (Philippians 1:24-26).

I suspect we are in agreement on this.
 
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Honestly, there is no way that the resurrection of the body will "make us more complete or happy than being spiritually united to Jesus". It's just something that will happen.

Indeed, this is correct insofar as only those resurrected and then judged among the righteous by Christ Pantocrator will enter with Him into the World to Come, and that of course involves everlasting fellowship with God, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, or as St. Gregory Palamas puts it, participation in the uncreated energies of God. The rest will be consigned to the Lake of fire for eternity. Now, as Metropolitan Kallistos Ware, who I love quoting, has said, we can hope all may be saved, but it is wrong to say all must be saved.
 
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It absolutely is a physical thing. We are talking about the human body.

-CryptoLutheran

Wisdom! Let us attend! This is the Traditional, Orthodox, Catholic and Apostolic doctrine.
 
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I believe in the resurrection of the body where our mortal body will be reunited with our soul after the second coming of Christ. My question about the resurrection of the body is "How will that benefit us?" How could it make us more complete or happy than being spiritually united to Jesus? After being separated from the body for ages, will we miss it? Will it help others recognize us?
-Well one thing, the physical body will match the physical environment of earth, that you will spend eternity on.​


Indeed, Heaven is only a temporary thing, the perfect "New Earth" or New Jerusalem will be physical, and we will need physical bodies to inhabit it.​
 
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I believe in the resurrection of the body where our mortal body will be reunited with our soul after the second coming of Christ. My question about the resurrection of the body is "How will that benefit us?" How could it make us more complete or happy than being spiritually united to Jesus? After being separated from the body for ages, will we miss it? Will it help others recognize us?

1 CORINTHIANS 15:53...We can't do it, Christ is the only one who can. No earthly corruptible flesh can enter heaven. Hebrews 12:2. Christ is the author and finisher of our faith.

God Bless
 
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1 CORINTHIANS 15:53...We can't do it, Christ is the only one who can. No earthly corruptible flesh can enter heaven. Hebrews 12:2. Christ is the author and finisher of our faith.

God Bless
Regarding this: Firstly, only our disembodies souls will enter heaven, and only before judgement shall we be raised with incorruptible bodies to inhabit the new earth. In The Revelation the "souls" under the altar cry out "how long?" in anticipation of the resurrection on the last day. The fact that the souls are crying out pretty much put the lid on the idea of soul sleep.
 
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I believe in the resurrection of the body where our mortal body will be reunited with our soul after the second coming of Christ. My question about the resurrection of the body is "How will that benefit us?" How could it make us more complete or happy than being spiritually united to Jesus? After being separated from the body for ages, will we miss it? Will it help others recognize us?

My guess is your spirit body will look like your physical body. It will be indestructible and forever. I not sure how we will feel.
 
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My guess is your spirit body will look like your physical body. It will be indestructible and forever. I not sure how we will feel.

Is “spirit body” as a phrase conceptually compatible with Traditional Theology?
 
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Is “spirit body” as a phrase conceptually compatible with Traditional Theology?
I don't believe so; Scripture is clear that in heaven we are only "souls"; it is equally clear that our physical bodies will be raised on the last day, just as Christ's body was. Some thought he was a spirit or an appearition, but He proved otherwise via Thomas. Since the new earth, the new Jerusalem are physical, we will need physical bodies to inhabit them.
 
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