Churches being burned in Canada

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No, but I did see a report this week on the cable news about what happened to Native American (First Nations) children in Canada for decades. They were taken by the government and placed into church operated schools and not allowed to speak in their native tongue and some were physically and/or sexually abused. Some died and were buried and the bodies were not returned to their parents. If I recall correctly, this practice continued until about 1996. It is quite possible/probable that any church burnings in Canada are related to this sad practice.
 
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No, but I did see a report this week on the cable news about what happened to Native American (First Nations) children in Canada for decades. They were taken by the government and placed into church operated schools and not allowed to speak in their native tongue and some were physically and/or sexually abused. Some died and were buried and the bodies were not returned to their parents. If I recall correctly, this practice continued until about 1996. It is quite possible/probable that any church burnings in Canada are related to this sad practice.
This is very likely what sent some people who hated Christians anyway over the edge. Whatever happened in the past, this is terrorism.
 
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This is very likely what sent some people who hated Christians anyway over the edge. Whatever happened in the past, this is terrorism.
You could be right. I do not know for certain. Obviously, I do not favor the burning of churches. However, it does seem like some form of deep regret and/or restitution is in order for what happened to the First Nations children in Canada.
 
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The last such school closed in 1996. But I am quite sure these abuses were not happening that recently.
I suspect that you re correct. I was shocked to hear that year quoted, as 1996 is not that long ago.
 
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You could be right. I do not know for certain. Obviously, I do not favor the burning of churches. However, it does seem like some form of deep regret and/or restitution is in order for what happened to the First Nations children in Canada.
Which has been happening and is still being discussed, as far as I have heard. People are saying enough hasn't been done, and that's a valid concern. Burning churches however, is neither restitution nor justice. It is injustice, and the perpetrators deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law.
 
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Yes its in response for the hundreds of dead aboriginal children in unmarked graves in old residential school sights that are being found. They were putting in a new waterline by the one in kamloops bc and found 215 children in a mass grave. Now they are searching every former residential school grounds. And theybare finding more and more. Who knows how many in total before all sights are surveyed

Edit: im not trying to be rude, but i saw a thread a few days ago on how pope frances was commenting on how sad it was the president of haiti was assassinated or attempted cant remember. But as far as i know he hasnt even publicly acknowledged whats happening in canada right now with all the childrens bodies being found.
 
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Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that past wrongs are the only reason.

"Yet not all of the churches targeted in the recent arsons have connections to the Catholic Church or to the residential schools. On July 4, the House of Prayer Alliance Church in Calgary, Alberta, burned to the ground in a suspected arson. The church, owned by the Calgary Vietnamese Alliance, had finally reopened its doors on Sunday after a full year of lockdown to fight COVID-19.

We are Vietnamese refugees here,” Pastor Thai Nguyen told CTV News. “If anybody do this so they should know that we [are] victims too, before we came here to find a new life.”
 
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Restitution was already been made over the residential school issues. This was old news. The unmarked graves are a new matter demanding recognition of the sites, rather than turning them into parking lots and campgrounds which is what was happening. However the radicals are again using this to cause political disturbance even though the school issue was already settled.

These folks have the right attitude.
Residential school survivors call for an end to arson attacks on churches
 
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Yes its in response for the hundreds of dead aboriginal children in unmarked graves in old residential school sights that are being found. They were putting in a new waterline by the one in kamloops bc and found 215 children in a mass grave. Now they are searching every former residential school grounds. And theybare finding more and more. Who knows how many in total before all sights are surveyed

Edit: im not trying to be rude, but i saw a thread a few days ago on how pope frances was commenting on how sad it was the president of haiti was assassinated or attempted cant remember. But as far as i know he hasnt even publicly acknowledged whats happening in canada right now with all the childrens bodies being found.
Shocking is the only word that comes to my mind to describe what happened. I knew that the U.S. government did some bad things to some of the Native American tribes, but I did not know that Canada did as well.
 
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Shocking is the only word that comes to my mind to describe what happened. I knew that the U.S. government did some bad things to some of the Native American tribes, but I did not know that Canada did as well.

Australia did as well! We have such a sad history when it comes to the Aboriginal people, the ramifications of those treatments are still being felt today.
 
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Restitution was already been made over the residential school issues. This was old news. The unmarked graves are a new matter demanding recognition of the sites, rather than turning them into parking lots and campgrounds which is what was happening. However the radicals are again using this to cause political disturbance even though the school issue was already settled.

These folks have the right attitude.
Residential school survivors call for an end to arson attacks on churches

This sounds very dismissive to the issue and intergenerational-trauma, i see people every day that went to residential schools who were beaten and molested. My mother-in-law cant listen to the constant radio broadcasts about this issue without bursting into tears because shes reliving what she went through. So you cannot say restitution has been made and its old news.

I feel very bad for the churches that are being burned, and it saddens my heart and it shouldnt be happening. Now If you are brushing off the issue of the children that have been found in the mass graves as well as the trauma thats still felt from thw residential schools, my family couldve been in those graves, and i think you might need more empathy on the matter or simply not comment at all
 
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So you cannot say restitution has been made and its old news.
I agree, the pain will never go away and I can appreciate the desire to keep the memory of the disgraceful events alive, but the residential school issue was 'officially' settled. This graveyard issue is something new. The complaints here were the land being used for campgrounds and parking after the schools were torn down. All they asked was respect for the burial sites and the addition of markers.
 
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Sad whichever way it's looked at.

Residential schools were a horror and I have heard the worst ones were in Canada.
But revenge is never the way to go. One evil act is not made better by adding another to it.
Temporary revenge only builds more hatred.
 
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This sounds very dismissive to the issue and intergenerational-trauma, i see people every day that went to residential schools who were beaten and molested. My mother-in-law cant listen to the constant radio broadcasts about this issue without bursting into tears because shes reliving what she went through. So you cannot say restitution has been made and its old news.

I feel very bad for the churches that are being burned, and it saddens my heart and it shouldnt be happening. Now If you are brushing off the issue of the children that have been found in the mass graves as well as the trauma thats still felt from thw residential schools, my family couldve been in those graves, and i think you might need more empathy on the matter or simply not comment at all

I only heard about these 'school' a few years ago when we covered American history (I know Canada and Canadians are not Americans)

What would the native community like to see happen? Have they been asked?
 
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