Scientists Will Create Unborn Babies Who are Part Human, Part Animal for Research

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As we expected, the International Society for Stem Cell Research (ISSCR) issued its revised guidelines on stem cells and embryo experiments at the end of May 2021, and as expected, the ISSCR recommendations are rife with proposed experiments on young human beings.

The new guidelines discard the 14-day limit on human embryo experiments in favor of no limits whatsoever, and they allow virtually unrestricted manufacture of human-animal chimeras of any type, as well as creation of genetically altered human embryos and lab constructed human embryo “models.” Very little is left in the category of “currently not permitted.”

The ISSCR overreach is telling when bioethicists with widely-divergent views on embryo research ethics label the new recommendation for no limits a “grave omission,” and when well-known supporters of human-embryo research say they are “troubled by the recommendations,” especially removal of the 14-day limit.

The ISSCR’s self-serving guidelines even reminded a senior scientist of a letter written long ago, with currently-applicable sage advice about experiments: “If it is dangerous, or wrong, or both, and if it doesn’t need to be done, we just ought not to do it.”

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The movie of The Island of Doctor Moreau becoming a reality.

So Alex Jones wasn't lying or just making stuff up off of the top of his head like he usually does? Because he has said, I believe it was on Joe Rogan, that this sort of thing was going on.

I've heard this part human/part animal hybrid as part of end time prophecy in the past. Cant remember who or where now, just that they were claiming this will happen before the end.

I hope this means Jesus is coming soon.

Not every nation follows ISSCR guidelines.

GirdYourLoins said:

I hope this means Jesus is coming soon.

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Jesus' triumphal return doesn't mean that Christians are going to be spared the tribulation that leads up to it. Things are going to get a lot worse for Christians until Christ comes and the conquering king. The idea that he's going to magically disappear all of his followers and spare them from the tribulations of the end times.

Read paragraph 675 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church to see what I mean.

BrAndreyu said:

Jesus' triumphal return doesn't mean that Christians are going to be spared the tribulation that leads up to it. Things are going to get a lot worse for Christians until Christ comes and the conquering king. The idea that he's going to magically disappear all of his followers and spare them from the tribulations of the end times.

Read paragraph 675 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church to see what I mean.

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The Bible also says he come like a thief in the night. I think thats where a lot of Christiaans will be caught out Where the Bible says Christians will be persecuted, most people think that means everyone. I think it means some. FOr example the Christians crucified by ISIS, Christians not being given jobs in more civilised countries, etc may be enough. I dont think it necessarily means all CHrstians in all countries.

And as I was taught as a new Christian all those years ago, you should live as though Jesus is coming back tomorrow but plan for the future as if he wont come back in your life time.

Michie said:

As we expected, the International Society for Stem Cell Research (ISSCR) issued its revised guidelines on stem cells and embryo experiments at the end of May 2021, and as expected, the ISSCR recommendations are rife with proposed experiments on young human beings.

The new guidelines discard the 14-day limit on human embryo experiments in favor of no limits whatsoever, and they allow virtually unrestricted manufacture of human-animal chimeras of any type, as well as creation of genetically altered human embryos and lab constructed human embryo “models.” Very little is left in the category of “currently not permitted.”

The ISSCR overreach is telling when bioethicists with widely-divergent views on embryo research ethics label the new recommendation for no limits a “grave omission,” and when well-known supporters of human-embryo research say they are “troubled by the recommendations,” especially removal of the 14-day limit.

The ISSCR’s self-serving guidelines even reminded a senior scientist of a letter written long ago, with currently-applicable sage advice about experiments: “If it is dangerous, or wrong, or both, and if it doesn’t need to be done, we just ought not to do it.”

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Js: very disturbing indeed.

GirdYourLoins said:

The Bible also says he come like a thief in the night.

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Yeah it does say that people aren't going to be ready for it. I just got to that chapter of Matthew yesterday. However the notion that Jesus is going to magically disappear the "born again" people up into heaven is untrue based on what I've read in the Bible. The notion of The Rapture™ was made up to assuage people's fears about the antichrist and the tribulation of Christians that would ensue.

GirdYourLoins said:

FOr example the Christians crucified by ISIS, Christians not being given jobs in more civilised countries, etc may be enough. I dont think it necessarily means all CHrstians in all countries.

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I personally believe that it's going to be all Christians. And I believe that we're starting to see it now based on these two things that you've mentioned & things I've seen myself. I do not think that the antichrist is "on the scene" yet, but I believe that the spirit of the antichrist is alive and well in the world. Sad as it is to say this as an American, but I believe that my own government is enabling this spirit to do it's will in the world and has been for quite some time. Our government threw God out many decades ago, and America has been shaking it's collective fist in the face of God for about as long and now we're starting to see the results of our government and the consumerist, materialist society that controls said government behaving this way. The notion that some Christians are going to escape unscathed by the persecution is simply not something I put too much stock into, which is why we are told to "count the cost" and to "take up our crosses daily".

If you really look closely at it, Christianity is being attacked worldwide the way that no other religion is currently being attacked and it's even starting to happen in the Western nations to a much lesser extent. The church in Western nations is hemorrhaging believers thanks in part to the lies of the prosperity gospel and the social engineering of Western media and the corporations that back them. Christianity is not wanted in the West anymore, but if you look at how depraved the society has become what with abortion on demand, cultural Marxism, and the perpetual homosexual agenda, it becomes incredibly clear that the church is on the defensive right now instead of being on the offensive. It's actually far worse in Europe it would seem than it is in the US, because Europe actually has "hate speech" laws that prevent the church from condemning things that are clearly contrary to biblical teaching but it will eventually get to that point in the US, we're almost there.

BrAndreyu said:

Jesus' triumphal return doesn't mean that Christians are going to be spared the tribulation that leads up to it. Things are going to get a lot worse for Christians until Christ comes and the conquering king. The idea that he's going to magically disappear all of his followers and spare them from the tribulations of the end times.

Read paragraph 675 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church to see what I mean.

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Sorry, didnt notice this was on the Catholic board, I saw it on trending topics. I'm not Catholic so wont discuss further.

GirdYourLoins said:

I'm not Catholic so wont discuss further.

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You can be here if you aren't Catholic, you just can't Catholic-bash or promote Abortion as far as I understand and you haven't done either of those things here.

I don't have problem with non-Catholics. I've been to plenty of non-Catholic churches in my life when I stepped away from the Catholic church as a teen. I went to an ELCA church for many years and have been to Baptist, non-denominational Evangelical, United Methodist, and even Pentecostal churches. I was actually thinking of going to a mennonite church before I had just decided to start going back to the Catholic church this past weekend. I've actually discovered in this journey that the evangelical churches tend to be the warmest congregations in terms of the people there seem to actually care deeply about your walk with Christ. I also like the fact that they get out there in the world and actively try to get people to come to church and they have all of the good Christian music like the Supertones, Benjamin Gate, Skillet, and others. The evangelicals are good at building bridges to the world and it's something that we Catholics could afford to look at and develop our own models of, because it's been my experience that Catholics tend to be terrible about evangelism and spreading the Good News. I blame a lot of this on the complexity of entering the Catholic church as it's necessary to take RCIA before you can be fully integrated into the church and a lot of people don't want to go through this process and wait until Easter.

I might disagree on theological points but I don't condemn non-Catholics as not being "true" Christians. I think this is a result of growing up in the Southern United States and having the experiences I've had with Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, and others.

BrAndreyu said:

You can be here if you aren't Catholic, you just can't Catholic-bash or promote Abortion as far as I understand and you haven't done either of those things here.

I don't have problem with non-Catholics. I've been to plenty of non-Catholic churches in my life when I stepped away from the Catholic church as a teen. I went to an ELCA church for many years and have been to Baptist, non-denominational Evangelical, United Methodist, and even Pentecostal churches. I was actually thinking of going to a mennonite church before I had just decided to start going back to the Catholic church this past weekend. I've actually discovered in this journey that the evangelical churches tend to be the warmest congregations in terms of the people there seem to actually care deeply about your walk with Christ. I also like the fact that they get out there in the world and actively try to get people to come to church and they have all of the good Christian music like the Supertones, Benjamin Gate, Skillet, and others. The evangelicals are good at building bridges to the world and it's something that we Catholics could afford to look at and develop our own models of, because it's been my experience that Catholics tend to be terrible about evangelism and spreading the Good News. I blame a lot of this on the complexity of entering the Catholic church as it's necessary to take RCIA before you can be fully integrated into the church and a lot of people don't want to go through this process and wait until Easter.

I might disagree on theological points but I don't condemn non-Catholics as not being "true" Christians. I think this is a result of growing up in the Southern United States and having the experiences I've had with Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, and others.

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I tend to fairly open minded as well. The only reason I said I wont discuss further was the reference to the Catechism pf the Catholic Church which Im not familiar with and didnt want to say anything out of line.

BrAndreyu said:

So Alex Jones wasn't lying or just making stuff up off of the top of his head like he usually does? Because he has said, I believe it was on Joe Rogan, that this sort of thing was going on.

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This sort of thing has long been the wet dream of a certain sort of developmental biologist. It has been held back a bit only by regulations on funding. But those regulations can change, particularly when we have an administration that does not value human life at all in it’s early stages.

GirdYourLoins said:

I've heard this part human/part animal hybrid as part of end time prophecy in the past. Cant remember who or where now, just that they were claiming this will happen before the end.

I hope this means Jesus is coming soon.

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It comes from the prophecy "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be in the last days."

The antedelluvian era was characterized by hybridization. Notably the intermixing of the 'sons of God.' Whether this is interpreted in the sethite view or the demonic intermarriage view, it is still hybridization. In addition to this was the hybridization of homosexuality, contraception, cannibalism, inappropriate behavior with animals, etc. Much of the Mosaic law is about category distinctions and rules against hybridization.

Well, you can't quite get the same 'sons of God' hybridization today either way. The sethites aren't around, and the demons alleged to fall in breeding with women are generally thought to be locked away.

So, an interpretation arose in the Church Father's that since the hybridization in the time of Noah is a hybridization with fallen angelic beings (according to one interpretation) that consists of a hybridization with a higher level of being, so this next time is said to be with a lower level, so hybridization with animals.

Fr. Appletree said:

So, an interpretation arose in the Church Father's that since the hybridization in the time of Noah is a hybridization with fallen angelic beings (according to one interpretation) that consists of a hybridization with a higher level of being, so this next time is said to be with a lower level, so hybridization with animals.

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It describes crossbreeding with neanderthals and whatever other species of early man existed.

People see the word neanderthal and think it describes something barbaric & inhuman. AFAIK neanderthals were nearly indistinguishable from modern man.

1rreducibly Complex said:

It describes crossbreeding with neanderthals and whatever other species of early man existed.

People see the word neanderthal and think it describes something barbaric & inhuman. AFAIK neanderthals were nearly indistinguishable from modern man.

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Neanderthals do not exist in the tradition of the Church. Any application of modern scienctific fact to the text of scriptures is ahistorical and speculative at best. The whole of scripture makes, at least, the symbolic association with fallen angels from Genesis through Revelation.

Fr. Appletree said:

Neanderthals do not exist in the tradition of the Church. Any application of modern scienctific fact to the text of scriptures is ahistorical and speculative at best. The whole of scripture makes, at least, the symbolic association with fallen angels from Genesis through Revelation.

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The bible mentions early man crossbreeding with a race of nephilim who are described as a race of fallen angels or giants.

Neanderthals are scientifically described as a race of giants. They were physically larger than primitive man.

The speculation could fit. I see no reason to dismiss it.

1rreducibly Complex said:

The bible mentions early man crossbreeding with a race of nephilim who are described as a race of fallen angels or giants.

Neanderthals are scientifically described as a race of giants. They were physically larger than primitive man.

The speculation could fit. I see no reason to dismiss it.

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The nephilim/giants are the product of the interpreting, not the source of the interpreting.

The canonical height for the sons of God universally in the ancient world is 15 feet. How tall are neanderthals?

Fr. Appletree said:

The nephilim/giants are the product of the interpreting, not the source of the interpreting.

The canonical height for the sons of God universally in the ancient world is 15 feet. How tall are neanderthals?

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"15 feet."

The bible never specifies their height, if I remember correctly.

There are outliers who came close to reaching those heights.

Making all those hybrid stories a reality or they were always based on one. I think it's the latter.