Personal responsibility and school lunches

keith99 said:

I'm not so sure that healthy food is more expensive in general. Especially if one shops well, buying the healthy food on sale this week.

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Packaged food that will not spoil bacomes far more attractive when there is no way to store healthy food. A nasty positive feedback loop. The oasis stores in the desert then stock stuff that will not spoil. E.g. packaged food.

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It depends. Some is more expensive; some isn't. I can get all the raw chicken or pork I want for < $2.50 /lb. Junk food isn't ever going to touch that.

But as you suggest, storage is a concern, as are prep time and and the quantities in which some healthier foods come. You may be able to buy one apple at a time, but you can't buy herbs or salad greens in single-serving sizes. You have to buy 3-5 servings at a time, minimum and they don't keep well. My wife and I eat healthy and have a newer, moderately large refrigerator and we still struggle getting through an entire box of salad mix before it goes bad. And I have no idea what it would take to use an entire bunch of cilantro. How many tacos is that? 100?

hislegacy said:

On that, we agree.

How do you feel about personal accountability?

Should people who cannot afford food for their child purchase alcohol, tobacco or drugs? Seems like the money would be better spent on food.

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Most parents, that are really poor aren't spending money on alcohol, tobacco or drugs, instead of food. They spend what little money, they have on food, for their kids. Many Poor people, including Christians are in this list. Yes, they are people that are drug attics , that fit in your category. Not sure why all kids getting healthy food at school is a bad thing. Even if a child is neglected.

hislegacy said:

Not everyone, perhaps not even a majority, agree with that POV.

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Anything would be better than allowing the Federal government take control, especially with someone like Harris in power.

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What a coincidence, John Oliver just had a long segment on Health Care Sharing Ministries on Sunday

GreatLakes4Ever said:

What a coincidence, John Oliver just had a long segment on Health Care Sharing Ministries on Sunday

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keith99 said:

These days I would not let a kid in my family walk to school.

I happen to ride by bike for excercise and a few times I have gone by schools when they are either starting or ending. The parents coming to pick up or drop off their kids are flat out unsafe for any kid walking or riding.

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I think cars are a huge part of the obesity problem. When I was young most people couldn't afford two cars (some didn't even have one) and our parents used that one car to leave for work early in the morning. Which meant kids walked, cycled or rode the train/bus to school. Children also had a "safety in numbers" effect when most of them were walking or riding to and from school.

We've now spent so much effort making things easy for parents that we've actually made our streets less safe for the kids.

Trogdor the Burninator said:

I think cars are a huge part of the obesity problem. When I was young most people couldn't afford two cars (some didn't even have one) and our parents used that one car to leave for work early in the morning. Which meant kids walked, cycled or rode the train/bus to school. Children also had a "safety in numbers" effect when most of them were walking or riding to and from school.

We've now spent so much effort making things easy for parents that we've actually made our streets less safe for the kids.

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The safety in numbers existed everywhere when I was a kid. We could go almost anywhere because we traveled in a pack of 5-10 kids. And that also meant we were almost always within running distance of some kids home. Even when we were not it would be assumed any door was a place to phone home from in an emergency.

Thinking about it the link between cars and gross laziness may actually have hit the peak and is starting to get better. 10 years ago it was not unusual for me to get stuck behind someone waiting for a 'good' parking spot when they could see one open just a few spots up the lane. I cannot remember that happening for a few years.