"White Rage"

rturner76 said:

Get up to speed. The government that the USA put in power protects the opium trade.

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RDKirk said:

Well, gee. I thought this would be a thread about white people for a change.

But it turns out it's about black people--yet again--after all.

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Handmaid for Jesus said:

You are correct. However,people have trouble recognizing the enemy they cannot see. So they fight what they can see which is usually skin and culture. Unfortunately, too many Christians do not even know or discern the real enemy.

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Handmaid for Jesus said:

I agree 100%. But truth is, it was mostly Christians that lost their minds over Obama.

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rjs330 said:

Let's see, up until your post all of them were about white people except one that mentioned the attacks on Asians. So, no it's not about black people. Not sure where you got that.

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RDKirk said:

Nothing sarcastic about it. There were Christians declaring that Obama was the antichrist.

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Eftsoon said:

“Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute,” (Psalm 82:3).

“Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, and please the widow’s cause,” (Isaiah 1:17).

“He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?” (Micah 6:8).

In an ideal world, the church would eliminate racism in its own ranks. The church is continuous with the world, so when its members head out into the world they bring their renewed consciousness to bear in their social interactions.They become lights in the world. To 'lead the charge' the church simply needs to address its own internal issues and the rest will follow. I can't really advocate for churches lobbying and getting enmeshed in politics. We are called to be 'unstained' and that level of involvement in politics usually leads to unholy unions between church and state

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RDKirk said:

Wrong. The OP itself dragged black people into the discussion.

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wing2000 said:

I should certainly hope our nation's military academies include the works of Mao, Marx and Lenin in their curriculum. Our military officers need to understand the ideologies of our potential enemies.

However, the general's main point was he wanted to understand what was driving US citizens to attack the US Capitol building as our military is a reflection of our society. Former (and current) military officers were involved in an illegal attack on our nation's legislative body. He certainly has a duty to understand what motivated them to do so and address such behaviors in today's military.

[edit - added "current" military officers]

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rjs330 said:

Which had nothing to do with CRT.

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wing2000 said:

It seems you missed his point.

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Hazelelponi said:

I'm going to say these days government is more of a hindrance to success.

Because of disabilities I've experienced the system of government assistance, and at one point I considered divorcing my husband in order to get the help we actually needed. In the end I couldn't, but the thought seriously crossed my mind.

with kids to feed? I can't even imagine...

so yeah - not much more than a hindrance these days, because just a dollar too much income in the household and your out, and a working husband will boot you every time, regardless of wage if you also have some income.

That perpetuates poverty... it doesn't help rise children out of it, because two parents are ESSENTIAL in life, most especially to academic success.

Having schools still mainly funded by property tax again, perpetuates poverty because low income children go to abysmal schools. I know, my kids went to one. That was why and when I left the city and bought land in the country, and commuted to work. So my kids could have a better education because I couldn't afford to live in the "good school districts".

No one stopped me, btw.. from doing what it took for my kids to succeed, in redneckville USA .. (although my son got teased some for his baggie pants at first.. but I teased him over that myself.. lol)

The civil rights movement was great, don't get me wrong - but the government isn't - nor can it be - the be all end all for all problems.

We have to assess what the problems are today (not 200 years ago) and see what can be done to address those issues.

George Floyd died after trying to pass a bad check while phenomenally high on drugs in the middle of the afternoon. That is a problem.

Some of which can be addressed. Porous border pouring in drugs... we could fix that better.

We can do what needs to be done in this country to ensure there are enough jobs for those who need them.

We can preach hope and stop telling people there is none because of the color of their skin!

We can do better to train our police officers and put more of them on the street - not less.

We can, we can we can do many things! We just can't do everything - people have to go some of the way on their own... and pull themselves up by their bootstraps if they have any ability at all...

All of us have to at some point...

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Hazelelponi said:

While the cop had fault, so did Floyd himself... Committing crime when out of your head high pretty much ensures you'll meet some resistance, most especially from law enforcement.

just throwing that out there. His death was a symptom of multiple issues - not just one.

If he had been in his right mind he could have entered the backseat of the cop car and been taken to the station right away etc etc etc.

I've never said or thought that cop was right, but there are multiple ways that would never have happened. Many of which were in Floyd's hand.

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Landon Caeli said:

Can you blame them? Who can we say is so advanced as a group that they all equally welcome reproach with open arms and understanding? I think there's no group so perfect.

...But I do think that if the successes of black Americans were broadcast more often, rather than just the crimes against them, I think it would be a moral booster, and actually be helpful rather than stirring up the kind of literature and media coverage that's happening right now, due to how profiting is percieved.

Not only would it boost black American's self-pride, but it would also encourage others to celebrate it along with them, as an American success story.

...If we want that to happen, we can make it happen. We just have to become optimistic towards something new, that's never been given a fair chance.

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Eftsoon said:

NT Wright has addressed this issue. He gives the example of evil people sounding off about the kingdom of God. This doesn't invalidate the concept. It just means that we have to reclaim the kingdom and realign the definition.

The media is sounding off about racism, but this doesn't mean that the concept is a divisive fiction. Instead, we have to approach it with a Christ-centred perspective.

NT Wright says that the church has missed half it's gospel. Others have rushed in to fill the void.

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rjs330 said:

No I didn't. CRT had nothing to do with Jan 6.

Secondly, is he recommending books like Voddie Bauchaum's book which is against CRT? Is he having them read anti-Marx? Books on the horrors of Lenin and Mao to show why they are evil?

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Eftsoon said:

Actually they can. Preposterous as it may seem, black people can be inverted racists. Uncle Tom Syndrome. WEB Du Bois talks about double consciousness. Black people of the diaspora have both a white and a black centre of consciousness. There is a constant internal struggle.

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rturner76 said:

I can see what you mean. Like black folks who think they are better than the lower "class." Like the house negro/field negro animosity

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