More than 150 Houston hospital workers fired or quit after refusing COVID-19 vaccine

RestoreTheJoy · Jun 29, 2021

cow451 said:
This is not "experimental". Remand for reeducation.

It is not approved yet. Only for "emergency use". So...not approved.

RestoreTheJoy · Jun 29, 2021

GOD Shines Forth! said:
NOT!

The potential implications are concerning.

ralliann · Jun 29, 2021

RestoreTheJoy said:
It is not approved yet. Only for "emergency use". So...not approved.

So many questions..
Why don't we have testing available to see who has and hasn't had it? They won't need a vaccine? Haven't we heard over and over how people can have it especially younger people and not have known it?

Mayzoo · Jun 29, 2021

ralliann said:
So many questions..
Why don't we have testing available to see who has and hasn't had it? They won't need a vaccine? Haven't we heard over and over how people can have it especially younger people and not have known it?

There is testing for antibodies. It is usually called a titer test (or a pcr test). The patient has to pay for the titer test. Vaccines (most if not all) typically free now if you have insurance and I believe the Covid vaccine is free to everyone I believe.

ralliann · Jun 29, 2021

Mayzoo said:
There is testing for antibodies. It is usually called a titer test (or a pcr test). The patient has to pay for the titer test. Vaccines (most if not all) typically free now if you have insurance and I believe the Covid vaccine is free to everyone I believe.

Thanks for the info.
Why should someone have to pay for it? Why waste vaccines? Why make people not needing to risk anything pay?

trunks2k · Jun 29, 2021

Mayzoo said:
The patient has to pay for the titer test. Vaccines (most if not all) typically free now if you have insurance and I believe the Covid vaccine is free to everyone I believe.

For covid vaccines, they're free even if you don't have insurance. If you have insurance, it's free to YOU, but they'll charge your insurance.

ralliann · Jun 29, 2021

trunks2k said:
They're free even if you don't have insurance. If you have insurance, it's free to YOU, but they'll charge your insurance.

Ah ok. Thanks

keith99 · Jun 29, 2021

Mayzoo said:
There is testing for antibodies. It is usually called a titer test (or a pcr test). The patient has to pay for the titer test. Vaccines (most if not all) typically free now if you have insurance and I believe the Covid vaccine is free to everyone I believe.

Very poorly worded. It sounds like you are saying a titer test and a pcr test are the same. They are not even similar.

ralliann · Jun 29, 2021

keith99 said:
Very poorly worded. It sounds like you are saying a titer test and a pcr test are the same. They are not even similar.

which one shows antibodies? the titer?

ralliann · Jun 29, 2021

Aldebaran said:
What ever happened to testing? The nurses could be tested to see if they have Covid or not, and then sent home if they do. It worked before. All those doctors and nurses wearing the fully enclosed protective gear before there was a vaccine. What happened to that? Those nurses worked very long shifts and sacrificed being with their families because they didn't want to risk bringing the virus home, so they lived in RVs and motels. Now they're being fired from their job and labeled as if they "don't care about their patients".
How quickly this country turns against the people they held up as heroes less than a year ago!

I was thinking the same thing. How many of these risked their lives for their patients when this first hit? I am curious if any were offered tests for antibodies and if it mattered had they had them?

Trogdor the Burninator · Jun 30, 2021

ralliann said:
Anti covid vax, is fear of it's fast development, and the unknown's of future issues. Many which are fearful have had traditional vaccines. They have been in use for years and years.

Those "traditional vaccines" were new once

KCfromNC · Jun 30, 2021

ralliann said:
There are facts as good as yours.

I see no reason presented to believe this claim, and this thread and others have provided lots of evidence that is it simply not true.

KCfromNC · Jun 30, 2021

ralliann said:
Well, that could end up being the choice to struggle to put a roof over your head (and kids), or food on the table, etc. let alone send them to college, or have medical for yourself.

Yes, ignoring reality to accept anti-vaxx propaganda has real world consequences. Who could have imagined? Why, before we know it the virus might stop paying attention to their opinions on the subject as well.

cow451 · Jun 30, 2021

RestoreTheJoy said:
It is not approved yet. Only for "emergency use". So...not approved.

Emergency use=approved for use. The pandemic wasn't willing to wait on the usual slow pace of approval.

Did you feel the same way about the "treatments" promoted by the EX President and hucksters like Jim Bakker?

KCfromNC · Jun 30, 2021

RestoreTheJoy said:
To some degree, yes. But when autocrats rule, it can be an issue, which may not be limited to this.

I guess if it ever becomes an actual issue rather than a hypothetical one someone can start a thread on it. But why not stick to what's actually happening now in this discussion?

seeking.IAM · Jun 30, 2021

Hospitals do not exist for the purpose of giving people jobs. Hospitals exist for the purpose of treating illness. Employees are merely the human resources that help hospitals achieve that purpose. If employees aren't willing to be part of helping patients stay well, they aren't helping fulfill the hospital's purpose and, therefore, are no longer needed by the facilty. It's as simple as that.

ralliann · Jun 30, 2021

Trogdor the Burninator said:
Those "traditional vaccines" were new once

And?

ralliann · Jun 30, 2021

KCfromNC said:
Yes, ignoring reality to accept anti-vaxx propaganda has real world consequences.

Yes, the consequences are certainly becoming real.

KCfromNC said:
Who could have imagined? Why, before we know it the virus might stop paying attention to their opinions on the subject as well.

Nothing to pay attention to. Move on nothing to see here.

ralliann · Jun 30, 2021

KCfromNC said:
I see no reason presented to believe this claim, and this thread and others have provided lots of evidence that is it simply not true.

Well, of course. Big tech shuts it down. Just last night I was watching a Dr. on t.v. and he made a video concerning some really good outcomes of therapeutics. Prevention as well as treatment if applied early. It was shut down. Journalism is doing the same. So no, there is not much to present to you. So your covered from any argument here. But for others, it causes fear and doubt.

ralliann · Jun 30, 2021

Mayzoo said:
People are screaming for the government to make more regulations against corporations' freedoms regarding employment and termination.

No crisis goes to waste.

Mayzoo said:
I am trying to be realistic, that is not likely to happen in a republican state.

Oh, it is real.

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