Cinderella Team DQ'd due to COVID

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NC State Booted From College World Series for COVID, Vanderbilt Advances to Championship (msn.com)

It's hard to feel sorry for a Cinderella baseball team going to the college world series for only the third time in 53 years! being disqualified from the Championship game due to COVID.

Wouldn't you think that, with the chance of a lifetime for NC State to bring home the College World Series championship, that the players would have been vaccinated for COVID?

Quite a few obviously weren't. Needing to win two out of three against Vanderbilt to move on to the finals, the underdog team took the first game, lost the second because they only had a 9 player team to go out on the field--plus four pitchers, two of whom played in the previous game!

Since they could not move forward with a skeleton crew, the NCAA disqualified the team.

When I was a kid, the stereotype of the "dumb jock" prevailed. Today we know that many student athletes are exceptional students, bright and well-disciplined.

But I have to admit the NC State baseball team seems to fit that stereotype. How could so many players on full scholarships, working hard to get to the championship during the whole season, throw it all away because they were too--I don't know--lazy?? ignorant?? delusional?? to get vaccinated?

As I said many times, "You'd think we were asking them to donate a kidney instead of a shot in the arm for all the bellyaching they do about it!"

The players, the coaches, and the culture of a university that doesn't push back on vaccination conspiracy theories deserves what they got.
 
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Interesting, the article doesn't make one mention about vaccinations (or lack thereof) being the issue.

But yes, yes, I know.... it can be inferred, which is apparently precisely what's necessary to the point of this thread.

Regardless, I see no reason to judge those who either contracted or merely tested positive for the virus (which wasn't the whole team, btw) to be so hastily labeled as they have been here - from "dumb jocks" of decades past to today's "exceptional, bright, and well-disciplined students" back to "dumb jocks" again - with an added speculative query about whether they might also be "lazy," "ignorant," or "delusional."

So, while an [apparent] lack of vaccinations might be inferred here, the author of the article certainly didn't find it germane to ascribe labels to the DQ'd players, or even speculate about their characters. I see no hint of either in the article.

For me, it's just one more reason to distrust those pushing this narrative so hard to get vaccinated - especially if in their peddling of the narrative they feel they have to stoop to these sort of aspersions to win what is apparently for them, their own "championship."
 
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4115 vaccinated people in the U.S. have been hospitalized or died from COVID due to the Delta variant.

The unvaccinated are the biggest reason new variants are appearing.

Unvaccinated to me spells:
Unpatriotic
Uncaring
Unkind
Unschooled
Unaware
and, in the case of these athletes, unworthy of sympathy.

They are jeopardizing all of us.
 
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4115 vaccinated people in the U.S. have been hospitalized or died from COVID due to the Delta variant.
Wait a minute - the vaccine doesn't work after all?

The unvaccinated are the biggest reason new variants are appearing.
Let me get this straight - the unvaccinated are responsible for the new strains of Covid - that are killing the vaccinated?

This has to be a joke, right?

They are jeopardizing all of us.
Um... hookay... (backing up very slowly and exiting...)
 
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Without human hosts, the virus can't develop new strains.

4115 is an infinitesimal number.

The unvaccinated are the ones spreading it but sometimes 95% immunity isn't enough.

My county has a 24% vaccination rate, and although it is probably close to 100% with the people I consider friends, I am bound to run into the others...there are so many.

We have been so careful so long, and I hate to see the inconsiderate ruin things for those of us doing the right thing.
 
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Wait a minute - the vaccine doesn't work after all?

No vaccine is 100% effective.

The reduction of the risk of being infected and becoming ill (ie, requiring hospital treatment) with COVID-19 is about 95% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine and 94% for the Moderna–NIH, when compared to a non-vaccinated person.

In the US, the incidence of hospitalisation for COVID-19 is about 140 people per 100,000 population. So, vaccination would see that cut down to about 7 people per 100,000.

Plus, COVID-19 appears to be similar to the influenza virus, in that it is rapidly mutating. That means that existing vaccines may lose some portion of their efficacy against new strains. For instance, the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine becomes only 90-91% effective against the Delta variant. So, an extra 6 to 7 hospitalisations per 100,000 population.

Let me get this straight - the unvaccinated are responsible for the new strains of Covid - that are killing the vaccinated?

This has to be a joke, right?

Nope. Fewer vaccinated people means the pool of potentially infectable people is higher. More infections means both more chance of getting infected - leading to greater spread - and more chance of new mutations occurring.

So yes, people not getting vaccinated are putting other people - even vaccinated people - at risk.

Um... hookay... (backing up very slowly and exiting...)

They are jepoardising people. That's not hyperbole, that's a plain fact.

Here's an analogy - if you leave a rifle or handgun with a round chambered and the safety off, that jepoardises people. Even if you never deliberately shoot someone, the chance of an accidental or negligent discharge increases.
 
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