Does the Bible ever really allow divorce?

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I think Moses says it is allowable but Jesus later sort of said that it was not supposed to be. So it seems that even with an abusive spouse you have to stick it out?

Now I'm just going to ramble but please focus on the above question!

I personally consider my wife abusive (and I admit it would be much worse for men abusing women). Not physically abusive after I called her out the first time, then she never did it again. She actively goes out of her way to make my life miserable, seemingly whenever she gets the chance.

I am in the process of studying narcissism and I think I will find her on the malignant end of the spectrum but I am not sure yet.

I have seen some lesbian videos of how they found out they liked girls instead of guys. None of them start out with that knowledge and it's actually tricky to figure out when everything teaches you it's man+woman. I'm wondering more and more if she doesn't like guys and just refuses to consider it because of religion. It's fine if she doesn't want to act on it, but it sucks that my life has been drug into the gutter to maintain the denial. (just a thought I have, I'm not certain either way)

She certainly has no interest in me beyond keeping the abusive relationship in tact, so she'll sit through some counseling or whatever to check the box that says she did what she was supposed to.

Having said that, I still am reasonably happy, but we were separated for a while and that was so great. I moved back in to save money. Since then she hasn't been able to get away with much so it's mostly peaceful and we just don't talk much.

And please don't say "talk to her". lol. She just deflects, lies, whatever to get out of the conversation. And we did therapy for over a year.
 

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I think Moses says it is allowable but Jesus later sort of said that it was not supposed to be. So it seems that even with an abusive spouse you have to stick it out?

Now I'm just going to ramble but please focus on the above question!

I personally consider my wife abusive (and I admit it would be much worse for men abusing women). Not physically abusive after I called her out the first time, then she never did it again. She actively goes out of her way to make my life miserable, seemingly whenever she gets the chance.

I am in the process of studying narcissism and I think I will find her on the malignant end of the spectrum but I am not sure yet.

I have seen some lesbian videos of how they found out they liked girls instead of guys. None of them start out with that knowledge and it's actually tricky to figure out when everything teaches you it's man+woman. I'm wondering more and more if she doesn't like guys and just refuses to consider it because of religion. It's fine if she doesn't want to act on it, but it sucks that my life has been drug into the gutter to maintain the denial. (just a thought I have, I'm not certain either way)

She certainly has no interest in me beyond keeping the abusive relationship in tact, so she'll sit through some counseling or whatever to check the box that says she did what she was supposed to.

Having said that, I still am reasonably happy, but we were separated for a while and that was so great. I moved back in to save money. Since then she hasn't been able to get away with much so it's mostly peaceful and we just don't talk much.

And please don't say "talk to her". lol. She just deflects, lies, whatever to get out of the conversation. And we did therapy for over a year.
Welcome. So Sorry to hear about your situation. It probably was a mistake to move back in for the wrong reason, money. It would have been best for a reconciled relationship. Now you are considering a divorce. I'm not sure deception or accusing her of being a lesbian shows righteousness. Maybe its time to self analyze. Be blessed.
 
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Welcome. So Sorry to hear about your situation. It probably was a mistake to move back in for the wrong reason, money. It would have been best for a reconciled relationship. Now you are considering a divorce. I'm not sure deception or accusing her of being a lesbian shows righteousness. Maybe its time to self analyze. Be blessed.

Just something I am thinking over to enhance my own understanding. I am not planning any deceptions.
 
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Welcome here, friend. Just take your counsel from the Person of Jesus Christ, and make Him Lord of your life (note John 14:6; and all of that good counsel by Him in John 3; John 14; Romans 8; etc.). I often say: 'walking and talking with the Lord Jesus, and making Him your best friend is the way of peace and blessing, and assurance for evermore. He will help you meet every challenge. We all need patience in times of trials, so do not act hastily, and continue to show love to ALL you meet. That can humble one to change their errant ways.
 
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No. The Bible does not "condone" divorce.

Mark 10:2-12
And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.
And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?
And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.
And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

Matthew 5:32
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

1 Corinthians 10-16
And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?

May the all powerful God bless your future in this situation and all others that come before you.
 
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No. The Bible does not "condone" divorce.

Mark 10:2-12
And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.
And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?
And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.
And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

Matthew 5:32
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

1 Corinthians 10-16
And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?

May the all powerful God bless your future in this situation and all others that come before you.

I think the short answer here is that there is an exception for adultery, and no other reason. However, if your differences are irreconcilable, your life is in danger, or your mental health is in jeopardy, then separation may be the best option and a person shouldn't feel they have to go back home to be abused on a daily basis.

The problem is that if you are separating for frivolous reasons, even if you don't remarry, you are probably making it more difficult for you or your ex to avoid temptation to adultery in the future. It is likely that one or the other will decide not to be alone. If they do it first, then technically you are free, but do you share some responsibility for their sin?
 
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