Girlfriend Discipline

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This post wasn’t about me or anyone I know. It’s based on similar questions that I’ve seen asked by other people on other forums. I don’t believe in disciplining significant others. Having a conversation is the healthiest way to go about it and, quite frankly, it should be the only way to go about it.
 
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Does any other Christian out there believe in some sort of punishment or am I the only crazy person out there on planet Earth?

If I did any of that to my girlfriend I would be looking for another girlfriend.
 
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If there are mutually-agreed upon rules surrounding Christian dating (ex; no sex before marriage, no sexual touching, always dressing modestly, etc), can there also be mutually-agreed upon punishments if a Christian girlfriend starts behaving in ways that are ungodly towards the Lord and her partner? If they’re both young adults, can a Christian man spank his girlfriend in private? Take away her phone for a day? Make her confess to her parents what she did on the phone with her parents? Hold a private meeting with her parents? Any other ideas?

Does any other Christian out there believe in some sort of punishment or am I the only crazy person out there on planet Earth?
I know that you said that this is not for you personally, but you have seen others ask these questions.

First, I’d like to know if you would be okay with your girlfriend treating you like that if she felt you needed disciplining, or would this only be a one way thing (only boyfriends would be disciplining girlfriends, and not the other way around). While I think both ways of viewing it (either both boyfriend or girlfriend, or just one way boyfriend only) are unhealthy, I think one is more unhealthy than the other.

Assuming that you are both the same age, I think disciplining treats the other like a child, and I wouldn’t like that. Not only that, but it could have the high potential of turning into abuse.

I don’t see how punishing your dating partner is at all helpful. If I had a boyfriend, and he treated me like that, he wouldn’t be my boyfriend any longer. I am not a child, and I don’t want to be treated as one. It would be obvious to me that a long term relationship with such a person would not work for me.

This sort of view seems to be seeing men as superior to women, and is definitely belittling to women.

At the same time, I know that there are Christians out there who have a different view on men and women (I still think those views are belittling towards women and could easily lead towards abuse), and if you hold to that view, and can find a woman who also does, and she agrees to being disciplined by you, then I would seek counsel from other Christians that you trust in real life. I could never counsel someone to have this kind of relationship.
 
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If there are mutually-agreed upon rules surrounding Christian dating (ex; no sex before marriage, no sexual touching, always dressing modestly, etc), can there also be mutually-agreed upon punishments if a Christian girlfriend starts behaving in ways that are ungodly towards the Lord and her partner? If they’re both young adults, can a Christian man spank his girlfriend in private? Take away her phone for a day? Make her confess to her parents what she did on the phone with her parents? Hold a private meeting with her parents? Any other ideas?

Does any other Christian out there believe in some sort of punishment or am I the only crazy person out there on planet Earth?
Welcome. Somehow I will muster up an answer to this disgusting suggestion that you even think for a moment you can "spank" an adult. This is physical ABUSE. I feel sorry for any woman who agrees to any form of punishment. This is not Christian behavior.
 
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In my opinion, hitting a female in the United States would be criminal assault, and domestic abuse if it happens in a marriage. And I agree that it should be illegal to physically violate a woman.

In case a Christian man's girlfriend is wrong somehow, I offer that his Biblical role is to be her good example to help her do better, and his role is to minister for her to be restored spiritually, like we have in Galatians 6:1 >

"Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted." (Galatians 6:1)

I see this means how an individual who is "spiritual" has power of God to restore any person out of "any trespass". So, this is the focus to have in dealing with however a girlfriend might be wrong. And we need to have our mature older Christians who feed us their example of how to relate. So, it is important that you do not isolate yourself only or mainly with your girlfriend, in how you share and might have the right kind of discipline.

"He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness." (Hebrews 5:2)

So, in case your first focus is about hitting her, and controlling her, and being angry, this is not Biblical, I would say. Start with compassion and how with God in prayer we are able to bless someone.

Also, in case you do have some sort of agreement that there can be need for discipline of certain wrong things, then the man needs to take the lead in how to be disciplined. Or else he is not a leader.

"nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)

Controlling and lording yourself over her is not leading by example.

You say she might need her cell phone to go on time out. Well, if you really mean she is not giving you the attention that you want . . . discipline must not be for selfish reasons. Love does not have us only using any other person; so if you are trying to get her to cooperate with you so you can use her . . . this is not loving her. And physical pain is certainly not God's way of getting us to obey Him. Yes, He has used pain on wrong people, but that did not change their character so they became His way in obeying and loving.

We need ministry of restoration in which God is changing our character so we are and we love more like Jesus. The focus of true discipline is how we become and we love like Jesus >

"And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma." (Ephesians 5:2)

The man taking the lead, then, needs to reveal how he has sinned, even in secret, including in his imagination; then he gets disciplined however has been agreed . . . with him taking the lead if he is supposed to be the leader.

But the true discipline, I think, is revealed through Hebrews 12:4-14. God alone is able to do this. So, if I am boasting how I could discipline my sweetie . . . uh-uh!!

By the way > when those people in John chapter eight brought the adulteress to Jesus, who did Jesus first deal with, about who had been sinning? Not the woman, but the men. And Jesus did not physically violate her, but He did what could help her to live better.
 
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If there are mutually-agreed upon rules surrounding Christian dating (ex; no sex before marriage, no sexual touching, always dressing modestly, etc), can there also be mutually-agreed upon punishments if a Christian girlfriend starts behaving in ways that are ungodly towards the Lord and her partner? If they’re both young adults, can a Christian man spank his girlfriend in private?
You gave sex before marriage and sexual touching as examples of what not to do, and yet you asked if spanking your girlfriend in private is right???

She is an adult woman who is not under your authority, and spanking between potentially intimate partners (unlike healthy parent-child relationships) is sexualized. So this at best is a foolish idea.

If they’re both young adults, can a Christian man spank his girlfriend in private? Take away her phone for a day? Make her confess to her parents what she did on the phone with her parents? Hold a private meeting with her parents? Any other ideas?
The totality of this sounds like what someone who is geared towards abusing a partner would come up with.

If she is acting ungodly toward you, you talk about it, and whatever of yours she touches to hurt you, you make sure that is out of her reach. If she's stubbornly acting ungodly to you and talking about it does not resolve it, dump her.
 
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