Godless peoples live in the Holy Land

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Psalms 79:1-7 The heathen have invaded Your domain, Lord – they have defiled Your Holy Place and ruined Your Land. Your servants have been killed and evicted from Jerusalem. Now we suffer the taunts of our neighbors and the threats of those around us.

Lord: You are roused to a fury, Your indignation blazes like a fire. Pour out Your wrath onto the nations that do not acknowledge You, those peoples that deny Your existence, for they have taken over the heritage of Jacob.


Psalms 79:8-13 Do not remember against Your people the guilt of past generations, rather let Your compassion come swiftly to meet us, for now we are brought so low. Help us, God our savior for the honor of Your Name. For Your Name’s sake rescue us and wipe out our sins. Why should the nations ask: Where is their God?

May we see Your vengeance for their treatment of Your servants.

Let the supplications of Your people from around the world, reach Your presence and in Your great might save those who are dead in the spirit. Ezekiel 37:13-14

Turn back sevenfold onto their own heads the contempt the godless nations pour upon You. Then, we; Your people: the flock whom You shepherd, will give You thanks forever and praise You to all generations.
Ref: REB. Some verses abridged


The heathen have invaded Your domain’- Most of the current inhabitants of the Holy Land, that is: the area from the Nile to the Euphrates, are atheistic, apostate or false religion worshippers. Isaiah 20:30-32, Psalms 52:1-5

neighbors have taken over the heritage of Jacob’-
Neighbors: the enemies of God and the rejecters of Jesus, living in or adjacent to the State of Israel. Jeremiah 12:14, Ezekiel 21:13-14

Jacob: now every faithful Christian. Galatians 3:26-29, Ephesians 3:6

‘Your indignation blazes like fire’ - The many prophesied punishment by fire that the Lord will bring upon the world, but especially devastating the Middle East.
Ezekiel 30:2-5, Amos 1:3-15, Zephaniah 1:1-18, 2 Peter 3:7

‘onto their own heads’- The weapons prepared by the nations who attack will ‘recoil upon themselves’. Psalms 7:12-15, Obadiah 1:15, Joel 3:4

‘Your people, the flock whom You shepherd’, Faithful, born again Christian people from every race nation and language, protected, saved and then living in their heritage: the holy Land. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 35:1-10, Romans 8:16-18, Romans 9:24-26


Psalms 79 is another example of How the Lord will act when the Islamic confederation commences their attack on the State of Israel, as described in Psalms 83 and Micah 4:11-12. It will be the literal fulfilment of the many prophecies of a terrible punishment by fire upon the nations, an explosion of the suns surface, instigated by the Lord, but He is not seen at this time, so it can be thought of as a natural disaster by the secular peoples.

It will be the sudden and shocking Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, that will virtually depopulate all the area given to Abraham, nearly four centuries ago.

This will allow the gathering and settling of the true, faithful Israelites – natural and grafted in, to live in the Holy Land. The rest of the world will form a One World Government, as nations will cede their sovereignty because of this disaster.

About 10 years later, after all that is prophesied in Revelation to happen before the Return has taken place, then the Lord Jesus will Return for His Millennium reign.
 
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This time, I shall throw out everyone from the Land:

Jeremiah 10:1-5 Listen, Israel: This is what the Lord says: Do not learn the ways of the nations or be worried by signs and portents. It is the other peoples who are terrified by them. For the gods’ of the nations are shams, just as dumb as scarecrows. Do not fear them, they can do no harm, nor can they do any good.

Jeremiah 10:6-9 Where can any other be found like You, Lord? You are great and mighty, fear of You is a fitting tribute for the King of the nations. One and all, the nations are stupid and foolish, making finely crafted idols and teaching nonsense from inanimate things.

Jeremiah 10:10-11 But the Lord is God in truth, a living God, the eternal King. The earth quakes and no nation can endure His fury. You can say- those false gods will perish.

Jeremiah 10:12-13 God made the heavens and the earth by His power, wisdom and knowledge. He controls the wind and rain.

Jeremiah 10:14-16 Everyone is brutish and ignorant. Those who make and promote idols are discredited and will perish when the Day of reckoning comes. Jacobs God is not like these, for He is the creator of the universe. Israel are the people He claims as His own. Y’hovah is His name.

Jeremiah 10:17-18 Gather up your belongings, to leave the Land you who live under siege For this is what the Lord says: This time, I shall throw out the whole population of the Land, I shall press them and squeeze them dry.

Jeremiah 10:19-22 Oh! The pain of my afflictions, I am laid low and must endure it. My dwellings are destroyed and my people have gone away. Their leaders are senseless, they do not enquire of the Lord, so their flock is scattered.
Listen; a rumor comes, a great uproar from the North – an army
assembles to make Judah desolate.

Jeremiah 10:23-24 I am aware, Lord, that one’s ways are not of our own choosing, nor is it within our power to determine our course in life. Correct me, Lord, but with justice, not with anger, lest I be destroyed.

Jeremiah 10:25 Pour out Your fury on those nations that do not acknowledge You, for they have swallowed Jacob and desecrated his Land. Ref: REB,NIV. Some verses abridged.


V 1-5 Don’t be worried about earthquakes and storms, etc. They are natural events, we just hear about them more, due to better news reporting. We must avoid the idols of our time - materialism, atheism and false religions. Luke 21:34-36

V 14-16 On the Day of vengeance, the Lord will judge the idolaters and the wicked leaders. Isaiah 66:15-16, Deut. 32:31-43

V 17-21 ‘My faithful people, get out, for this time the Land of Greater Israel will be cleared of all evil and apostate people’.
The Land will be ‘laid low’, empty and desolate, it will soon be regenerated and then His Christian people, Jew and Gentile, will gather to live there in peace and security. Ezekiel 36:8-12, Ezekiel 20:34-38

V 22 “An army assembles against Judah” Psalm 83 – an Ishmaelite confederation.

V 23-24 The Lord controls our destiny. We plead for His justice and mercy. Psalm 37:5

V 10 & 25 The Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath against His enemies. 2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 6:12-17, Isaiah 66:15-17,+
 
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As far I know, there still remain some Christians living in Israel, to this very day. They are a shrinking minority, I understand, but that number is not zero as best I know. A friend of mine took a tour not long ago of the Holy Land and it was given by a Chrisitan who lived in Jerusalem.

What is the purpose of this thread, if I might ask?
 
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As far I know, there still remain some Christians living in Israel, to this very day. They are a shrinking minority, I understand, but that number is not zero as best I know. A friend of mine took a tour not long ago of the Holy Land and it was given by a Chrisitan who lived in Jerusalem.

What is the purpose of this thread, if I might ask?
Yes, I have been to Israel and attended Christian worship there.
When the Lord sends His fiery wrath to destroy all the ungodly people in the holy Land, the faithful Christians will survive by hiding underground as Isaiah 29:1-6 describes. Only a remnant of Judah will remain. Romans 9:27

My task is to warn those who will listen; of the forthcoming sudden and shocking Day the Lord will change the world.
We must stand firm in our faith and trust in the Lord for His protection.
 
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This will allow the gathering and settling of the true, faithful Israelites – natural and grafted in, to live in the Holy Land. The rest of the world will form a One World Government, as nations will cede their sovereignty because of this disaster.
There will not be a One World Government. What there will be is the kingdom of the beast as the dominant kingdom over the rest of the world.... because near the end of the 7 years, there are the battles in Daniel 11:40-44 that will take place against the beast - attacked from the south, then north, then east.


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This time, I shall throw out everyone from the Land:

Jeremiah 10:1-5 Listen, Israel: This is what the Lord says: Do not learn the ways of the nations or be worried by signs and portents. It is the other peoples who are terrified by them. For the gods’ of the nations are shams, just as dumb as scarecrows. Do not fear them, they can do no harm, nor can they do any good.

Jeremiah 10:6-9 Where can any other be found like You, Lord? You are great and mighty, fear of You is a fitting tribute for the King of the nations. One and all, the nations are stupid and foolish, making finely crafted idols and teaching nonsense from inanimate things.

Jeremiah 10:10-11 But the Lord is God in truth, a living God, the eternal King. The earth quakes and no nation can endure His fury. You can say- those false gods will perish.

Jeremiah 10:12-13 God made the heavens and the earth by His power, wisdom and knowledge. He controls the wind and rain.

Jeremiah 10:14-16 Everyone is brutish and ignorant. Those who make and promote idols are discredited and will perish when the Day of reckoning comes. Jacobs God is not like these, for He is the creator of the universe. Israel are the people He claims as His own. Y’hovah is His name.

Jeremiah 10:17-18 Gather up your belongings, to leave the Land you who live under siege For this is what the Lord says: This time, I shall throw out the whole population of the Land, I shall press them and squeeze them dry.

Jeremiah 10:19-22 Oh! The pain of my afflictions, I am laid low and must endure it. My dwellings are destroyed and my people have gone away. Their leaders are senseless, they do not enquire of the Lord, so their flock is scattered.
Listen; a rumor comes, a great uproar from the North – an army
assembles to make Judah desolate.

Jeremiah 10:23-24 I am aware, Lord, that one’s ways are not of our own choosing, nor is it within our power to determine our course in life. Correct me, Lord, but with justice, not with anger, lest I be destroyed.

Jeremiah 10:25 Pour out Your fury on those nations that do not acknowledge You, for they have swallowed Jacob and desecrated his Land. Ref: REB,NIV. Some verses abridged.


V 1-5 Don’t be worried about earthquakes and storms, etc. They are natural events, we just hear about them more, due to better news reporting. We must avoid the idols of our time - materialism, atheism and false religions. Luke 21:34-36

V 14-16 On the Day of vengeance, the Lord will judge the idolaters and the wicked leaders. Isaiah 66:15-16, Deut. 32:31-43

V 17-21 ‘My faithful people, get out, for this time the Land of Greater Israel will be cleared of all evil and apostate people’.
The Land will be ‘laid low’, empty and desolate, it will soon be regenerated and then His Christian people, Jew and Gentile, will gather to live there in peace and security. Ezekiel 36:8-12, Ezekiel 20:34-38

V 22 “An army assembles against Judah” Psalm 83 – an Ishmaelite confederation.

V 23-24 The Lord controls our destiny. We plead for His justice and mercy. Psalm 37:5

V 10 & 25 The Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath against His enemies. 2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 6:12-17, Isaiah 66:15-17,+
The Antichrist will be a Jewish figure perceived to be the messiah and anointed the King of Israel, coming in his own name. His religion will be Judaism, and he will be into Kabbalah (i.e. craft).
 
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There will not be a One World Government.
Daniel 7:23-24 and Revelation 17:12-13 prove that there WILL be a world authority established soon after the Lord's Day of fiery wrath.
It will be ruled initially by 10 Presidents, but quite quickly, one powerful man will take control.
The Antichrist will be a Jewish figure perceived to be the messiah and anointed the King of Israel, coming in his own name. His religion will be Judaism, and he will be into Kabbalah (i.e. craft).
This idea is not in the Bible and contradicts much scripture.
Nowhere is a King of Israel mentioned to happen, until Jesus Returns.

You seem unable to see how the Jews and Judaism have nothing to do with the end times events. Their remnant will join their Christian brethren. Jeremiah 50:4-5
 
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This idea is not in the Bible and contradicts much scripture.
Nowhere is a King of Israel mentioned to happen, until Jesus Returns.
It is in the bible - Antichrist shall come, 1 John 2:18.

Christ the King of Israel - Mark 15:32.

What is not in the bible is "One World Government".

The fourth kingdom will devour the whole earth - meaning the fourth kingdom will be dominant over the whole earth. Dominant, but not a One World Government because the fourth kingdom, that of the beast, will be attacked by nations of the south, then north, then east in Daniel 11:40-44. Which you have not taken into account in your scenario.

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And why would Jesus in Matthew 24:20 say...

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

....if it were Christians making up the inhabitants of Judaea in that day?
 
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And why would Jesus in Matthew 24:20 say...

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

....if it were Christians making up the inhabitants of Judaea in that day?
This warning refers to the Roman conquest of 70 AD and is fulfilled.

What is not yet fulfilled is the prophesies that say how Judah will soon be virtually destroyed by the Lord and only a remnant will survive. Ezekiel 21:1-14, Isaiah 22:1-14, Amos 2:4-5, Hosea 8:14, +

Most people see 'a kingdom dominant over all the earth', as a One World Government. Why don't you?
Note well; how it will initially be ruled by ten Governors.

The attacks as described in Daniel 11:40-45, are revolts by various people groups. They will happen during the final 3 1/2 years of this age and Jesus will finally defeat the leader of the OWG, as Revelation 19:17-21 describes.
 
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Most people see 'a kingdom dominant over all the earth', as a One World Government. Why don't you?
Note well; how it will initially be ruled by ten Governors.
It will be a form of imperialism, not a One Word Government.
 
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It will be a form of imperialism, not a One Word Government.
You are clutching at straws.
Obviously Daniel 7:23-24 and Revelation 17:12-13 refer to a world authority; a government, which will re-establish law and order after the devastation of the Sixth Seal event.

Matthew 24:14-21 is a dual prophecy. Some has been fulfilled, but most awaits the mid point of the last 7 years of this age.
 
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You are clutching at straws.
Obviously Daniel 7:23-24 and Revelation 17:12-13 refer to a world authority; a government, which will re-establish law and order after the devastation of the Sixth Seal event.
Those verses in Daniel 7:23-24 say "fourth kingdom" not one world government, nor world authority. The EU with (likely) allies of the United States and Canada will dominate the rest of the world at that time. As "the west".

Daniel 11:40-44 indicates the other three alliances with be the southern nations, the northern nations, and the eastern nations.

The sixth seal does not happen until the very end of the 7 years, and great tribulation. The shaking of the powers of heaven corresponds to Matthew 24:29 and 30a.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 24:14-21 is a dual prophecy. Some has been fulfilled, but most awaits the mid point of the last 7 years of this age.
Only part of v14 has been fulfilled, the spreading of the gospel to the nations, which has been going on since the first century to the present, and will continue right into the end times events, highlighted by the two witnesses in the final days..

v15-31 is still unfulfilled. Which v20, regarding the sabbath restrictions, applies to Jews not Christians.

v15-31 is a message to Jews, living in Judaea.
v32-51 is a message to Christians, who will be living at the end times as well, around the world.
 
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