Florida bans critical race theory

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what?
ask former Pres. why his rhetoric increased racial incidents throughout the country?


Trump's Anti-Muslim Rhetoric Is Fueling More Islamophobic Incidents | HuffPost

"A report by the Council on American-Islamic Relations and University of California, Berkeley released on Monday said the number of recorded incidents in which mosques were targeted jumped to 78 in 2015, the most since the body began tracking them in 2009. There were 20 and 22 such incidents in the previous two years, respectively. The incidents include verbal threats and physical attacks."

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You went off an a rant about Trump and how you don't like him.

Fine, but I'm not playing identity politics here.
 
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You went off an a rant about Trump and how you don't like him.


WRONG

just showing how his racist rhetoric made my minority child's world unsafe!

teachers brought him up in the classroom, btw
NOT a "good" discussion about him, all negative

^ ties into this whole CRT thing & racism
 
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police were called for one incident on child's bus
(not involving our child)
us parents of bus kids got a letter to inform us

fortunately, one child on bus reported it
this is what needs to happen....other kids, parents, observers to report incidents

I know a kid who was picked on in school all the time and driven to the brink of suicide because he wanted to escape it and couldn't think of any other escape. As a result of that, the kid was labeled as the problem for having those kinds of psychological problems. No disciplinary action was ever done to the kids who assaulted him. It was reasoned by teachers and principals that the one who was being picked on and assaulted must be the problem because he was the one the other kids were picking on, which they reasoned made him the problem. One incident even happened on a school bus where he got his head bashed against the window which caused a severe cut on his head. The only "discipline" from the bus driver was to tell the one who caused the assault that he would have had to pay for the window if it had broke.

You might be guessing that this kid who was being picked on like this must have been "of color". Well, he wasn't. I know because the kid I'm talking about is me (sorry for sounding like Kamala here). So please take it from someone who has experience that race isn't the only factor when it comes to things like this happening. It's more about kids wanting to have power over other kids, and it continues into adulthood, although usually not with physical violence. It's part of human nature, and isn't always racial in nature. Sure, it can sometimes play a role, but that are far more ways people try to see themselves as better than their peers than the color of their skin regardless of what that color may be.
 
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Sure, it can sometimes play a role, but that are far more ways people try to see themselves as better than their peers than the color of their skin regardless of what that color may be.

sorry, those incidents happened to you!

however, in my child's case, the country where she was born has been mentioned many times

one example: boy on bus (another minority) specifically made fun of child because of her race- she told me what he said & it was racially specific

there's only one other family from her country in whole school so it's easy for them to be "chosen" as targets
 
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It's a question she should ask herself.

Do you not understand what a question mark is ? :D
I understand what a question mark is. I also understand the purpose of the question, to diminish the culpability of the perpetrator and try to shift it to the victim.
 
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I understand what a question mark is. I also understand the purpose of the question, to diminish the culpability of the perpetrator and try to shift it to the victim.

You made a false judgment of what I posted.


Nuff said
 
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sorry, those incidents happened to you!

however, in my child's case, the country where she was born has been mentioned many times

one example: boy on bus (another minority) specifically made fun of child because of her race- she told me what he said & it was racially specific

there's only one other family from her country in whole school so it's easy for them to be "chosen" as targets

You mentioned that the boy on the bus was also a minority. I think sometimes that actually tends to play a role in it. A girl I knew (an adult) from Mexico (here legally) was actually given a harder time by other Mexicans than anyone else. Black people more often attack other black people too. It's hard to understand.
 
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You made a false judgment of what I posted.


Nuff said
What do you mean false judgement? What was your intention then in suggesting that the victim started the fight. And that is exactly what you did, "Maybe she gets into fights because she's being raised to think everyone who is white is a racist and starts the fights to begin with?"
 
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You mentioned that the boy on the bus was also a minority. I think sometimes that actually tends to play a role in it. A girl I knew (an adult) from Mexico (here legally) was actually given a harder time by other Mexicans than anyone else. Black people more often attack other black people too. It's hard to understand.

I have ran into that myself. I'll never understand it.

We had a young adult minority girl living with us for a couple of years. She had a hard time with her race as well. She wasn't 'black' enough is one example. From what she told me of that particular circumstance? It sounded like jealousy and envy from that those that attacked. That was one of the nicer circumstances.

People can be jerks.
 
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What do you mean false judgement? What was your intention then in suggesting that the victim started the fight. And that is exactly what you did, "Maybe she gets into fights because she's being raised to think everyone who is white is a racist and starts the fights to begin with?"

Again, I was asking the question not making a statement.

Trying to help the person see the event from another angle which usually helps.
 
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Again, I was asking the question not making a statement.

Trying to help the person see the event from another angle which usually helps.
Then I guess I am trying to help you see your question from another angle.
 
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Then I guess I am trying to help you see your question from another angle.

And as I point out, your not doing such but making a statement or accusation to be more precisely
 
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not with the victim ?

I don't understand your question.
"making a statement or accusation to be more precisely"

You suggest that it was the victim who started the fight.

You don't seem open to self reflection or critique so I'll drop it. I was defending the victim from your question (statement or accusation) pointing the finger of guilt at her.
 
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"making a statement or accusation to be more precisely"

You suggest that it was the victim who started the fight.

You don't seem open to self reflection or critique so I'll drop it. I was defending the victim from your question (statement or accusation) pointing the finger of guilt at her.

I didn't suggest it, I asked if the mother considered that this might be the case.

She answered in the negative.

Not sure what you're trying to get me to say ?
 
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But then, my wife and myself watch the Zoo Down Under and other wildlife shows, and today's trend among the young is to end every statement as a question.

I think I'm understanding the confusion here.
 
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"Critical race theory (CRT), intellectual movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour."

Well, that's not a hypothesis. The Human Genome Project settled that one a while back. Turns out, there's more genetic variation within any "race" you might define, than there is between "races." There are no biological human races; race is indeed a cultural construct, which explains why the number of races depends on the culture in which one lives. And yes, in most of those cultures, "race" is used to decide who gets most of the good stuff, and who does most of the dirty work.

Good luck Ron, on trying to ban an intellectual movement. You might want to first check with Leonid Brezhnev about how well that works. Hint: look up "samizdat."

You couldn't invent a better way to get college students to study CRT, than by banning it. Ron thinks he can change human nature by government fiat. So did Leonid.
 
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