The Crusade to Destroy Jack Phillips Continues

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But the MSM in the US are leftist, so the point I made remains true. :D
?? MSM supports the Left in calling itself "Progressive" so that makes the word mean something else? This certainly cannot make "Progressive" mean Classical Liberal, either by history or by popular usage.
 
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It was NOT because they were members of a minority.
It was because he doesn't make wedding cakes for anyone to celebrate a same-sex wedding. Anyone who had asked for a cake to celebrate a same-sex wedding would have been told no,
who else besides a same sex couple would be doing that?
 
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who else besides a same sex couple would be doing that?
Doing what, buying a cake for a same-sex wedding?
A mother, a sister, a bride's maid...

One of the guys' mothers tried to order the cake but Phillips told her no because he doesn't make cakes for same-sex weddings.
He wasn't refusing service to a minority because of who they are but because of what they asked for.

He has served LGBTQ customers in the past.
 
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I generally agree with what you wrote up to this point, but "progressive" is, as we know, the term chosen by the Left in the past several years in order to escape the bad vibes that "liberal" has with the average American.
Oh, how I miss the days when we only had to worry about "liberals" and not the progressives, leftists, Marxists, cancel culture, agents of chaos, etc.
 
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Yes. He is being persecuted. Over and over again. And if this one doesn't cancel him the next time or two or three might just do that. But the effect of canceling him has a much broader effect on the rest of us. Others will curtail what they do because of what is happening to Phillips. And that is the intent.

Yup, it's an attempt to silence debate. People, we're in a no different place than OT Israel or the NT church was, surrounded by pagans.
 
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Steven Crowder has a bit where he goes around asking Muslim bakers to make him a gay wedding cake, and is of course refused. How come people never sue Muslim bakers? Probably because they specifically want to attack Christians.

Why not make black and Jewish caterers serve KKK or Nazi functions? Muslim printers forced to print Muhammed cartoons?
 
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Steven Crowder has a bit where he goes around asking Muslim bakers to make him a gay wedding cake, and is of course refused. How come people never sue Muslim bakers? Probably because they specifically want to attack Christians.

More likely because they know Muslims will fight back whereas Christians generally will not.
 
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Phillips is now back where he started, guilty of a thought crime.

I’ve been writing about Colorado cakemaker Jack Phillips’s fight against cultural authoritarians for a long time. This past March, I noted that Phillips would probably be badgered into the grave. And this week, Denver district judge A. Bruce Jones again found that the state could compel speech, claiming that Phillips had acted unlawfully when refusing to create a cake that celebrated the alleged gender transition of a Colorado activist.

Continued below.
Jack Philips: The Crusade to Destroy Colorado Cakemaker | National Review
Time for concentrated prayer for another victory for Phillips. Get busy, Church.
 
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Doing what, buying a cake for a same-sex wedding?
A mother, a sister, a bride's maid...
who would have a wedding cake?

One of the guys' mothers tried to order the cake but Phillips told her no because he doesn't make cakes for same-sex weddings.
He wasn't refusing service to a minority because of who they are but because of what they asked for.
actually according ot court records The following day Craig’s mother called Phillips to ask why he had declined to serve her son and his partner.

Masterpiece Cakeshop, Ltd. v. Colo. Civil Rights Comm’n, 138 S. Ct. 1719, 1724
 
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Steven Crowder has a bit where he goes around asking Muslim bakers to make him a gay wedding cake, and is of course refused. How come people never sue Muslim bakers? Probably because they specifically want to attack Christians.
it turns out he wasn't refused aby any on the 15 or so bakeries he went to he just lied about it three of them.
One of the bakeries he claims refused him was Golden Bakery which is actually a bread factory, they just make bread. The manager sent him to his brother's bakery pointing out that they woudl cater his wedding as well.
The Hallab Bakery caters weddings and was more than happy to cater Crowder's wedding but they only do traditional Lebanese weddings which doesn't include a wedding cake.
Crowder said Dearborn sweets also refused to make him a wedding cake but somehow they ended up with him signing an order for a wedding cake from them, he called later to cancel the order. Dearborn Sweets posted his signed order on their face book page for over a year.
 
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it turns out he wasn't refused aby any on the 15 or so bakeries he went to he just lied about it three of them.
One of the bakeries he claims refused him was Golden Bakery which is actually a bread factory, they just make bread. The manager sent him to his brother's bakery pointing out that they woudl cater his wedding as well.
The Hallab Bakery caters weddings and was more than happy to cater Crowder's wedding but they only do traditional Lebanese weddings which doesn't include a wedding cake.
Crowder said Dearborn sweets also refused to make him a wedding cake but somehow they ended up with him signing an order for a wedding cake from them, he called later to cancel the order. Dearborn Sweets posted his signed order on their face book page for over a year.

Even the gay writer Andrew Sullivan says gays like this trolling for trouble are just being a**holes. Tolerance means both sides are tolerant of differing opinions. If you're not, than you are the intolerant one.

Being against Christian bakers opposed to making cakes for gay weddings is a logically untenable position. They argue that baking a cake is not expressive, and therefore not protected speech. At the same time, not baking a cake is obviously an expression. Is it one or the other?
 
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Even the gay writer Andrew Sullivan says gays like this trolling for trouble are just being a**holes. Tolerance means both sides are tolerant of differing opinions. If you're not, than you are the intolerant one.
So how was Crowder trolling bakeries and lying about being refused by Muslum owned bakeries an act of tolerance?
 
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