How to walk in the Spirit.

Sidon · Jun 21, 2021

BNR32FAN said:
So the “brethren who have the confidence to enter the Holy Place by the blood of Jesus” were not saved?

All who hear the True Gospel and call believing on Jesus, by faith.... receive "Justification By Faith" from God.
They become born again.
Once you are born again, you belong to God.
He has purchased you with the Blood of Jesus.
You become "blood bought".

This is redemption, sanctification, justification. eternal life.....forgiven sin.....all of this.

Its God accepting you, based on Christ on the Cross, to then come and live in you, as you become "The Temple of the Holy Spirit".

The born again become a part of God's Holy Spirit.
This is the "spiritual birth", or the new birth, and this is defined as the born again becoming a NEW CREATION. "in Christ".

Ceallaigh · Jun 21, 2021

BNR32FAN said:
Your Bible has been translated from the Greek by a translator as well. So it’s not as if you have any room to talk here. By studying the Greek ourselves we can make our own assessment as to the interpretation that is intended instead of having the translator’s interpretation injected into our Bible.

Nonsense! The King James Bible is the only real Bible and it's not written in Greek! Funny hard to understand English yes, but not Greek!

Sidon · Jun 21, 2021

BNR32FAN said:
I don’t recommend anyone to do this. Read the entire book or epistle don’t skip around collecting specific verses because you’ll never get the full message that way.

Is that what happened to you?
Seems so.

Ummm, let me try it this way..

To understand the NT, you have to have to have Christ in you.
So, you dont start with reading the bible, as how you understand it, considering that God told you to study to show yourself approved, which is not just reading it.
So, as im assuming you are born again, but, you've not proven this by anything that you teach, as all you teach, has nothing to do with the blood atonement, when you try to talk about Salvation.
I hear you talk constantly about commandments and law and self effort and probably i'd hear a lot about water and enduring to the end, if i pushed you a bit.......
So, im being nice, and giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not just water baptized and playing a religious game of "self saving".

So, if you are born again, then Jesus is in you, and Jesus is the revealer of the Word.
Reading it does not get the revelation. The revelation comes by Christ in you, revealing it to your "spiritual eyes".

I think i have a Thread on this topic written here.
I'll research this, and if i can't find it to bump, i'll try to write it again, or something similar, eventually.

BNR32FAN · Jun 21, 2021

Sidon said:
All who hear the True Gospel and call believing on Jesus, by faith.... receive "Justification By Faith" from God.
They become born again.
Once you are born again, you belong to God.
He has purchased you with the Blood of Jesus.
You become "blood bought".

This is redemption, sanctification, justification. eternal life.....forgiven sin.....all of this.

Its God accepting you, based on Christ on the Cross, to then come and live in you, as you become "The Temple of the Holy Spirit".

The born again become a part of God's Holy Spirit.
This is the "spiritual birth", or the new birth, and this is defined as the born again becoming a NEW CREATION. "in Christ".

No but you didn’t answer my question. You said the Jews mentioned in Hebrews 10 were unsaved. So these “brethren who have the confidence to enter the Holy Place by the blood of Jesus” were not saved?

BNR32FAN · Jun 21, 2021

MMXX said:
Nonsense! The King James Bible is the only real Bible and it's not written in Greek! Funny hard to understand English yes, but not Greek!

I guess, if you like someone changing the words that were actually written.

BNR32FAN · Jun 21, 2021

Sidon said:
Is that what happened to you?
Seems so.

Ummm, let me try it this way..

To understand the NT, you have to have to have Christ in you.
So, you dont start with reading the bible, as how you understand it, considering that God told you to study to show yourself approved, which is not just reading it.
So, as im assuming you are born again, but, you've not proven this by anything that you teach, as all you teach, has nothing to do with the blood atonement, when you try to talk about Salvation.
I hear you talk constantly about commandments and law and self effort and probably i'd hear a lot about water and enduring to the end, if i pushed you a bit.......
So, im being nice, and giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not just water baptized and playing a religious game of "self saving".

So, if you are born again, then Jesus is in you, and Jesus is the revealer of the Word.
Reading it does not get the revelation. The revelation comes by Christ in you, revealing it to your "spiritual eyes".

I think i have a Thread on this topic written here.
I'll research this, and if i can't find it to bump, i'll try to write it again, or something similar, eventually.

Nope, it doesn’t happen that way unless you believe that only one denomination has Christ in them. That’s why Paul said “study to show yourself approved”.

Sidon · Jun 21, 2021

Ligurian said:
Where do you find the phrase "time of the Gentiles"?

Paul is your "apostle to the gentiles'.
For him this ministry became his only, as per Acts 28, when He was again trying to deal with unsaved Hebrews, who rejected the Gospel and Christ.
Same situation in Hebrews 10.
So, In Acts 28, Paul told them he was finished preaching to the JEWS, and said he would take the Gospel, to the "gentiles'.
So, that is when he became the full time apostle to the gentiles.

As to when the time of the Gentiles started........ well, it started in the foreknowledge of God before God even created the World.
But it was instituted, the second that Jesus, who is God... Died on the Cross for the sin of the world and from that second the world was offered John 3:16.

BNR32FAN · Jun 21, 2021

Sidon said:
Paul is your "apostle to the gentiles'.
For him this ministry became his only, as per Acts 28, when He was again trying to deal with unsaved Hebrews, who rejected the Gospel and Christ.
Same situation in Hebrews 10.
So, In Acts 28, Paul told them he was finished preaching to the JEWS, and said he would take the Gospel, to the "gentiles'.
So, that is when he became the full time apostle to the gentiles.

As to when the time of the Gentiles started........ well, it started in the foreknowledge of God before God even created the World.
But it was instituted, the second that Jesus, who is God... Died on the Cross for the sin of the world and from that second the world was offered John 3:16.

I’ll say this again, the Hebrews in chapter 10 were“brethren who have the confidence to enter the Holy Place by the blood of Jesus”. Why do you keep saying these people were not saved?

Sidon · Jun 21, 2021

BNR32FAN said:
Your Bible has been translated from the Greek by a translator as well..

there is so much more to it then that, bnr32fan.

so much more to it.

You are now trying to explain calculus only because you can count to 3.
that's how much you dont know about this topic.
that is why you should listen to someone who does, who is me.

The history of "greek texts" and all this, is quite fascinating.
You might ask your Pope why he does not use the Greek texts, including the Douay Rheims bible that is the "Catholic" bible, that was not translated from the Greek that made up all other bibles.

When you are at Mass, and the person is reading the LATIN.
Did you never wonder why?

Time to wake up.

fhansen · Jun 21, 2021

MMXX said:
I thought it was referring to the EO churches. That's because I made the mistake of rushing and grabbing a blurb instead of scanning the whole article. That's what happens when you cut corners.

No problem-easy enough to do.

fhansen · Jun 21, 2021

Clare73 said:
In my Bible, the Gospel is "Repent and believe the good news." (Mark 1:15; John 6:29; Acts 17:30; 2 Thessalonians 1:8;
2 Corinthians 5:20; 1 John 3:23; Revelation 14:6-7).
And without faith, it's very basis, it's all sounding brass and tickling cymbal.

Of course Paul said that without love it's all sounding brass and tickling cymbal. Gotta have both.
"The only thing that counts is faith working through love." Gal 5:6

And of course we must repent and believe the good news. That realizes reconciliation and establishes us with the only One who can make us just, who can authentically put his law in our minds and write it on our hearts. We still play our part, in remaining in Him, in picking up our cross daily, following Him and cooperating in His work, with His grace.

Sidon · Jun 21, 2021

MMXX said:
Revelation indeed. It literally had just come to me. Like a lightbulb being turned on.

thats how you receive light.

The best way is to study the word and meditate on what you read.

And as you study it, God starts connecting verses for you like dots........Some over here, and some over there.
You are in Titus, and then a verse you had read in the Psalms, suddenly become enlightened and connected. And this just keeps happening..... layer upon layer. Level upon level.....God gives the Light of revelation, beginning with you SEEING Salvation, as God's Blood given for FREE to make you righteous.
That is the GOSPEL.
That is "My Gospel", that Paul teaches.
That is the GRACE Of GOD as the Cross of Christ.
That shed blood of Jesus, IS Salvation. Jesus Himself IS Salvation.
When you see Him as this, you are seeing the Truth...... John 14:6

The bible , the NT is words, but that is meaningless.
You dont get the LIGHT from the verses, unless Christ who is the Light of the World, and the living LIGHT of Life, gives it to you. John 8:12

You notice that i teach and preach the blood of Jesus, when im here, in nearly every post.
My Threads are all about being "in Christ".. Both as being born again, and then as how to live there, as the renewed mind, walking in the Spirit

Understanding that the blood of Jesus makes you righteous and keeps you righteous, and nothing else can, is coming into the revelation of the Grace of God for the first time.
From there you become this verse..>Hebrews 13:9, "heart grounded IN GRACE".

Nothing else is offered by God but the BLood Atonement to get you to heaven., as John 14:6.

You've noticed that all the self savers, all the legalist, attack me and stay on my Threads, regarding teaching their self righteous version of how to go to heaven using commandments, and water, and law, and good deeds.

And then, like magic, one of them will suddenly SEE the Cross.
They will suddenly SEE that God gives the GIFT of Righteousness, and they never saw this before that very second.

That is Christ giving the LIGHT.

BNR32FAN · Jun 21, 2021

Sidon said:
there is so much more to it then that, bnr32fan.

so much more to it.

You are now trying to explain calculus only because you can count to 3.
that's how much you dont know about this topic.
that is why you should listen to someone who does, who is me.

The history of "greek texts" and all this, is quite fascinating.
You might ask your Pope why he does not use the Greek texts, including the Douay Rheims bible that is the "Catholic" bible, that was not translated from the Greek that made up all other bibles.

When you are at Mass, and the person is reading the LATIN.
Did you never wonder why?

Time to wake up.

Stop pretending to know what you are talking about because it is embarrassingly obvious to everyone here that you don’t. First of all I’m not Catholic, I’ve never been Catholic, I’ve never talked to a Catholic priest or ever stepped foot in a Catholic Church in my entire life. I already explained to you that the Latin Vulgate was translated from Greek to Latin by Jerome in the 4th century and you still can’t even get that right. The authors of the scriptures didn’t write the scriptures in Latin they wrote it in Greek. And stop pretending as if you know my level of comprehension or study because you don’t. I’ve studied the history of the KJV translation which was largely influenced by the Geneva Bible written by William Tyndale who was a Protestant and that’s where the KJV gets a lot of its protestant influence. Surprisingly I know a great deal more about the history of the Bible than you do, a person who “allegedly” attended seminary school but didn’t even know that the original New Testament writings were written in Greek and who never studied the Greek or Hebrew languages or the early church writings. I must admit it is quite challenging to comprehend such a seminary school that doesn’t teach these fundamental subjects.

Sidon · Jun 21, 2021

fhansen said:
Of course Paul said that without love it's all sounding brass and tickling cymbal. Gotta have both.

But that is not what you think.
See, you think that you feel the emotion, and that is the love that is in your verse.
But its not.
All you feel are feelings, and that is not the love of God, that is being described by Paul.
See, for you to love like that, you first have to learn to understand the Blood Atonement.
Then you have to develop a belief system that is grounded in Grace, and not in self saving.
Once you get there, then you are now submitted to the TRUTH, of John 14:6.

If you get there, then its possible that you can become the channel of God's love that has nothing to do with your self effort or self saving, or emotional (mental) feelings.

Sidon · Jun 21, 2021

BNR32FAN said:
Stop pretending to know what you are talking about because it is embarrassingly obvious to everyone here that you don’t..

Oh i know what im talking about.
That is why im writing a lot of Threads that teach, while you exit on them, as a religious opinion.

If there is something to be "embarrassed about", it would be your theology.
Really.

But i dont mind that you are on my Threads, as its hyper religious people like you, that give a lot more opportunity for the Cross to be lifted up, and the blood of Jesus given Glory.
I get to do that because you are the contrast to that Grace of God.
Your theology, allows me to contrast Paul's, just like that.
So, you are useful. You just dont understand why.

Sidon · Jun 21, 2021

BNR32FAN said:
No but you didn’t answer my question. You said the Jews mentioned in Hebrews 10 were unsaved.

The Hebrews in chapter 10, vs 26, obo, are "trodding underfoot the blood of Jesus" and "crucifying him afresh" "as did their father's"

They are committing the unpardonable sin, in the verses.
They are rejecting their messiah, "willfully sinning", and "there remains no more sacrifice for their sin".

All that is left for them, is "Its a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God".

Sidon · Jun 21, 2021

BNR32FAN said:
Nope, it doesn’t happen that way.

I assure you that if you don't have Christ in you, you will never be able to spiritually discern what is a Spiritual Book.
This has nothing to do with being a baptist, or a catholic, ..but it only has to do with being born again.
And even then, you can become one of the misled who is defined in Hebrews 13:9.

So, once you are born again........not just water baptized, but BORN AGAIN, then you have to stay away from deceivers, and that is many denominations, and all Christian forums until you are "grounded in Grace". Hebrews 13:9
You have to find a good teacher, a bible believing Church, that teaches Pauline Theology, correctly.
If not, they'll have you chasing Mary, chasing "tongues", chasing water, chasing communion, and chasing a law and commandments false gospel of works rabbit trail, and that'll be the entirety of your discipleship.
You'll just end up a confused, hyper religious, argumentative, person, who sins and confesses, and can't stop.......... and every Sunday you'll be found hanging out with a church building full of the same.

Ligurian · Jun 21, 2021

Sidon said:
In 2nd Peter, He said that Paul's letters, that he had in his hand, were equal to the "Torah".
That is an apostle, stating that another apostle's letters, are equal to His BIBLE (Torah).
Paul's letters became most of the New Testament.

Keep in mind that Paul was not one of the original 12.

Galatians 2:7-9
Paul is from the tribe of Benjamin and therefore, was part of the divided kingdom called Judah; he had the stewardship of the gentiles and taught the Gospel of Grace.
The 11 Disciple-Apostles from Galilee held the stewardship for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, and preached the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven.

About Peter
Did Peter understand rhetoric and the Greek language? Several ancients said Mark was Peter's translator and scribe for the Gospel attributed to Mark... which is actually Peter's preachings in Rome.

1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
1 Peter 5:13 The [church that is] at Babylon, elected together with [you], saluteth you; and [so doth] Marcus my son.
2 Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in [both] which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

Babylon, Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia are not Rome, so who was Peter's translator for these letters? People want to say that Babylon was code for Rome... was the Book of Revelation written before these letters were?

fhansen · Jun 21, 2021

Sidon said:
But that is not what you think.
See, you think that you feel the emotion, and that is the love that is in your verse.
But its not.
All you feel are feelings, and that is not the love of God, that is being described by Paul.
See, for you to love like that, you first have to learn to understand the Blood Atonement.
Then you have to develop a belief system that is grounded in Grace, and not in self saving.
Once you get there, then you are now submitted to the TRUTH, of John 14:6.

If you get there, then its possible that you can become the channel of God's love that has nothing to do with your self effort or self saving, or emotional (mental) feelings.

Well... somehow I really doubt you know how I think, feel, or have experienced the love of God and the love He's sought to work in me, stubborn as I can be at receiving it. But love, along with faith, is both an obligation-with salvation at stake- and a gift. And always a choice either way-in order for it to even be love.

Ligurian · Jun 21, 2021

MMXX said:
Nonsense! The King James Bible is the only real Bible and it's not written in Greek! Funny hard to understand English yes, but not Greek!

Even Greek doesn't appear to be Greek, since the Pelasgians held that land long before "the coming of the Greeks" and the Pelasgians held what is falsely called Greek Mythology. The Persian overlords always learned the language of the lands the conquested and took indigenous wives... when they didn't bring their wives on these raids. Robert Drews sums up the scholarship regarding The Coming of the Greeks in a book, if you want to learn the history of the Aegean. A better source is Ridgeway's The Early Age of Greece in two volumes.

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