Millennials Turn Away From Creationism

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There are a lot of traditional/conservative Christian views that are in the minority, not just the biblical view of creation; this includes marriage, abortion, headship in the home, etc.
As long as you understand that neither conservatives nor Christians have a monopoly on
certain traditional values, those listed being among them
 
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True Christians believe they have the inerrant power to know exactly what God's word is And Know more than any researcher on earth?
Ain't that a gas!? :)

Especially we KJVO's.

Why ... we even believe the Tabernacle was covered with badgers' skins ...

Exodus 25:5 [KJV] And rams' skins dyed red, and badgers' skins, and [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]tim wood,

... not seal skins!

Exodus 25:5 [ASV] and rams’ skins dyed red, and sealskins, and acacia wood,

You'd think we should know the difference, wouldn't you!? :eek:
 
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As long as you understand that neither conservatives nor Christians have a monopoly on certain traditional values, those listed being among them.
Nah ... we'll be more than happy to share some of them with you.

Help yourself to the Ten Commandments (if you can find any out in public).
 
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compared to the size of Pharaohs army of 600 chariots (Exodus 14:7), which brought fear to the Israelites. How could 600 chariots be considered a threat to 600,000 warriors of Israel?

Gevoriym also just means men. To suggest they were warriors is being extreme.


  1. At that time chariots were to wars like air craft carriers were 50 years ago. Chariots were the ultimate fighting weapons at that time and for hundreds/thousands of years later. Infantry stood little chance fighting against chariots. Although Israel had 600,000 men remember that these were not men of war, had never fought, had never been trained to fight, didn’t have weapons, and wouldn’t have been organized. They also wouldn’t have had horses or chariots. Tactically, they were unfamiliar with the ground AND they were burdened with women and children to care for. In a real fight, it wouldn’t have been a fight at all, but a slaughter.
Chariots in those days attacked in squadrons of three and charged in the formation of a triangle, one on the point and two on the flanks. The chariots also had knives and sharp instruments on their sides. The result was that three charging chariots could break through any line of infantry. Chariots in the ancient world were the tanks of today.

Exodus Chapter 14 Inductive Bible Study and Questions (studyandobey.com)
 
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Yes, I do believe the genealogy in the bible is accurate because I believe the bible is the inspired word of God. It seems consistent, doesn't it? I'm not the only one who places emphasis on biblical genealogy, so did the people in the bible.

If you believe that the earth is tens of thousands, if not millions, of years old...you're either assuming that the history in Genesis has huge gaps (which you can't do since all the events therein is lol chronologically in order from Adam to Noah to Abraham to Joseph), or you are assuming an evolutionary process of our kind. If neither, then what?
You know humans never lived to be 900 years old, right?
 
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Nah ... we'll be more than happy to share some of them with you.

Help yourself to the Ten Commandments (if you can find any out in public).
Right, because coveting your neighbor’s jackass is so relevant.
 
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Gevoriym also just means men. To suggest they were warriors is being extreme.

  1. At that time chariots were to wars like air craft carriers were 50 years ago. Chariots were the ultimate fighting weapons at that time and for hundreds/thousands of years later. Infantry stood little chance fighting against chariots. Although Israel had 600,000 men remember that these were not men of war, had never fought, had never been trained to fight, didn’t have weapons, and wouldn’t have been organized. They also wouldn’t have had horses or chariots. Tactically, they were unfamiliar with the ground AND they were burdened with women and children to care for. In a real fight, it wouldn’t have been a fight at all, but a slaughter.
Chariots in those days attacked in squadrons of three and charged in the formation of a triangle, one on the point and two on the flanks. The chariots also had knives and sharp instruments on their sides. The result was that three charging chariots could break through any line of infantry. Chariots in the ancient world were the tanks of today.

Exodus Chapter 14 Inductive Bible Study and Questions (studyandobey.com)
A few corrections needed.

Egyptian chariots were basically mobile archery platforms. They were not used as "tanks", nor were they used for smashing infantry lines.

Scythed chariots were an invention of the Persians and were not used by the Egyptians.
 
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Scythed chariots were an invention of the Persians and were not used by the Egyptians.
So, in that respect the Persians were a cut above the Egyptians. :)
 
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We can actually determine age with molecular genetics. You’re a creo, so I get that you wouldn’t know this. You’re also seemingly unaware how story telling creates legends and myths.

I recommend you take a few months and read a few books to bone up on this stuff. You’ll look less silly, especially a man of your age.
 
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Many church denominations don't teach it. Even churches that are more traditional just focus on the lessons from the first few chapters of Genesis. They don't come out & say it's a parable, but they're not calling it fact either. There's only a couple denominations I know of that treat it literal.
 
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Many church denominations don't teach it. Even churches that are more traditional just focus on the lessons from the first few chapters of Genesis. They don't come out & say it's a parable, but they're not calling it fact either. There's only a couple denominations I know of that treat it literal.
I wouldn't want to be caught dead in one of their churches.
 
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Don't tell me - you'd rather die...
Churches anymore are getting to be a joke.

Even Independent Fundamental Baptists are abandoning their values.

And it almost always starts with a reevaluation of the doctrine of verbal plenary inspiration.
 
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Churches anymore are getting to be a joke.

Even Independent Fundamental Baptists are abandoning their values.

And it almost always starts with a reevaluation of the doctrine of verbal plenary inspiration.
Jeez, the environment is changing, think of the dinosaurs. :)
 
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A few corrections needed.

Egyptian chariots were basically mobile archery platforms. They were not used as "tanks", nor were they used for smashing infantry lines.

Scythed chariots were an invention of the Persians and were not used by the Egyptians.
Does someone actually know how they were used? How do they know?
 
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Does someone actually know how they were used? How do they know?
Documentation. Multiple accounts making the same statements. Physical evidence matching the claims.

You do know how historical archaeology works, right? Example: documents say "the Persians had scythes on their chariot wheels", Persian chariots dug up have scythes on the wheels. Documents say "Egyptian chariots were used as archery bases", Egyptian chariots are found to have large storage capacity for arrows.
 
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Documentation. Multiple accounts making the same statements. Physical evidence matching the claims.

You do know how historical archaeology works, right? Example: documents say "the Persians had scythes on their chariot wheels", Persian chariots dug up have scythes on the wheels. Documents say "Egyptian chariots were used as archery bases", Egyptian chariots are found to have large storage capacity for arrows.

Those tell a little about it, sure.
 
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