Black Americans: Most Religious Ethnic Group

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I did not create this thread to say that black people are somehow superior to other people. Instead, I am challenging stereotypes.

How many white Christians in the United States actually know that black people, on average, attend church, read the Bible, and pray more often than white people?

Shouldn't there be more unity and understanding between white Christians and black Christians in this country?
 
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Before I started attending a black church, I was into Buddhism and all sorts of new age garbage. It was by attending a black church that I realized there is something special about Jesus, and that I needed to forsake my old ways.

I came to the realization that if a people was enslaved and oppressed by those who claimed to be Christian, and yet decided to love Jesus anyway despite their Christian oppressors, then there must be something special about Jesus.

Thank you for sharing your testimony.

No true Christian is an oppressor, so I am glad that you had the wisdom to know the difference. By faith, you have embraced the Gospel of Lord Jesus, in whom you now give your allegiance to, following Him.
 
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I don't understand what you mean. What specific part of the statistics do you find questionable?

All of it. While I am very happy about those Black Americans who have put a Gospel Faith in Lord Jesus, and are now living a new life in Him, I do not see this taking place for most Black Americans who claim faith, as seen by the statistics.

Regarding the population of Black Americans in the US and the statistics about their faith, I do not see that translated into a real life saving experience as the Scriptures teach, as understood by comparing those religion statistics with the huge incarceration rate, crime, and violent crimes, single parent homes, and jobless rate among many Black Americans.

non-Hispanic whites in US:
197.2 Million, 62.8% of the total U.S. population.
List of U.S. states by non-Hispanic white population - Wikipedia

Black Population in US:
48.2 million, 14.7% of total U.S. population
Black Population in US | BlackDemographics.com

Black American jobless rate:
11.4% in 2020.
U.S. unemployment rate, by ethnicity 2020 | Statista

66% of Black American homes with children are single parent homes.
Children in single-parent families by race | KIDS COUNT Data Center
  • The imprisonment rate for black females (88 per 100,000 black female residents) was 1.8 times as high as for white females (49 per 100,000 white female residents),
  • The imprisonment rate for black males (2,272 per 100,000 black male residents) was 5.8 times as high as for white males (392 per 100,000 white male residents).
  • Out of all ethnic groups, African Americans, Puerto Rican Americans, and Native Americans have some of the highest rates of incarceration.[82][83][84][85][86][87][88][89][90] Though, of these groups, the black population is the largest, and therefore make up a large portion of those incarcerated in US prisons and jails.
Incarceration in the United States - Wikipedia

Black people are the most religious ethnic group in the United States, yet news reporters would rather run a story on a black man robbing a liquor store than a black church feeding the homeless. May God have mercy on our suffering and divided nation. #blacklivesmatter

Roughly eight-in-ten (79%) African Americans self-identify as Christian, as do seven-in-ten whites and 77% of Latinos, according to Pew Research Center’s 2014 Religious Landscape Study...

African Americans are more religious than whites and Latinos by many measures of religious commitment. For instance, three-quarters of black Americans say religion is very important in their lives, compared with smaller shares of whites (49%) and Hispanics (59%); African Americans also are more likely to attend services at least once a week and to pray regularly. Black Americans (83%) are more likely to say they believe in God with absolute certainty than whites (61%) and Latinos (59%).
5 facts about blacks and religion in America


Fully three-quarters of African Americans say religion is very important compared to 59 percent among Hispanics and 49 percent of whites. That statement is lived out by nearly half (47 percent) attending religious services at least once a week.

Seventy-three percent of black Americans pray daily while 58 percent of Hispanics and 52 percent of whites say they did so. In addition, 83 percent of African Americans say they believe in God “with absolute certainty.”
Studies reveal five facts about African Americans and religion - The Christian Index


Indeed, more than half of black people in the U.S. (54%) – both Christian and non-Christian – say they read the Bible or other holy scripture at least once a week outside of religious services, compared with 32% of whites and 38% of Hispanics, according to data from the 2014 Religious Landscape Study. Indeed, relatively few black people (24%) say they seldom or never read the Bible, compared with 50% of whites and 40% of Hispanics.
Black Americans and the Bible: Key findings


The researchers found that a higher percentage of black and Latino Americans— 58% and 57%, respectively — supported teaching creationism in the classroom instead of, but not alongside, evolution. Only 44% of whites and 42% of other races felt this way.
https://news.rice.edu/2019/10/31/ri...-than-whites-to-support-teaching-creationism/
 
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I did not ask how much it cost. I asked you to explain your post about sending a novice. If your epigram about asking the cost has something to do with sending a novice, you are still failing to communicate. Are you here to provoke or are you here to have open honest discussion?

I am here to get my daily dose of Christian love, and my cup runneth over.
 
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Not necessarily true. Incarceration rates do not necessarily reflect crime rates, since many crimes are unreported, and there is more policing of black neighborhoods. Blacks are also more likely to be convicted of crimes if they are arrested.
You may be mistaken. Wealthier neighborhoods may be able to hire more police and get more police patrols. They may not riot and burn police cars. When I was touring Israel it seemed like the Jewish neighborhoods afforded better security than the Muslim neighborhoods. There were church groups from all over the world touring there, different races, ethnicities and languages sharing the public sidewalks and roads. Israel has stricter gun control laws and a lower murder rate.
 
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If we're going to talk about crime rates, it should be mentioned that they're correlated with poverty and aesthetically unpleasant neighborhoods, which many blacks are forced to live in due to structural socioeconomic circumstances.
 
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All of it. While I am very happy about those Black Americans who have put a Gospel Faith in Lord Jesus, and are now living a new life in Him, I do not see this taking place for most Black Americans who claim faith, as seen by the statistics.

Regarding the population of Black Americans in the US and the statistics about their faith, I do not see that translated into a real life saving experience as the Scriptures teach, as understood by comparing those religion statistics with the huge incarceration rate, crime, and violent crimes, single parent homes, and jobless rate among many Black Americans.

non-Hispanic whites in US:
197.2 Million, 62.8% of the total U.S. population.
List of U.S. states by non-Hispanic white population - Wikipedia

Black Population in US:
48.2 million, 14.7% of total U.S. population
Black Population in US | BlackDemographics.com

Black American jobless rate:
11.4% in 2020.
U.S. unemployment rate, by ethnicity 2020 | Statista

66% of Black American homes with children are single parent homes.
Children in single-parent families by race | KIDS COUNT Data Center
  • The imprisonment rate for black females (88 per 100,000 black female residents) was 1.8 times as high as for white females (49 per 100,000 white female residents),
  • The imprisonment rate for black males (2,272 per 100,000 black male residents) was 5.8 times as high as for white males (392 per 100,000 white male residents).
  • Out of all ethnic groups, African Americans, Puerto Rican Americans, and Native Americans have some of the highest rates of incarceration.[82][83][84][85][86][87][88][89][90] Though, of these groups, the black population is the largest, and therefore make up a large portion of those incarcerated in US prisons and jails.
Incarceration in the United States - Wikipedia


It's simply not intellectually honest to conclude that black people are particularly bad or faithless. Crime and poverty are more complicated than that. There are structural problems in society beyond the individual's control, for instance, many of them not reflecting on the character of black people at all.

If you think religion and faith insulates people from misfortune and troubles, you are likely in for a rude surprise at some point in your life's journey.
 
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It's simply not intellectually honest to conclude that black people are particularly bad or faithless. Crime and poverty are more complicated than that. There are structural problems in society beyond the individual's control, for instance, many of them not reflecting on the character of black people at all.

If you think religion and faith insulates people from misfortune and troubles, you are likely in for a rude surprise at some point in your life's journey.

Some people want to continue portraying Black Americans as victims, and so unable to have a true faith in Lord Jesus. That is a myth is being continually brainwashed into Black Americans to make them believe they cannot change because of past or present conditions. I know from experience that true faith in Lord Jesus is a new life despite circumstance.

What could possibly be the reasons for a person to continue to portray Black Americans as victims, unless their purpose is to keep the Black American from being successful. Such people who continually portray Black Americans as victims appear to want them to continue living defeated lives.

God is more powerful in those who believe than the tribulations, sufferings, temptations of this world. If one's faith is genuine, there are no worldly disturbances that can destroy ones faith.

History also bears this out. In the first century, the true believers in Lord Jesus were persecuted, beaten, thrown to lions, burned at the state, and so much more, but their faith just increased all the more. We did not see these faithful Christians turn to crime, and leave their children and families, just because life was difficult for them.

The Black American is the only ethnicity that is constantly being portrayed as a victim of circumstances, and so is unable come to a true faith. That has got to stop. IF this continues, many Black Americans will continue to live defeated lives.
 
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If we're going to talk about crime rates, it should be mentioned that they're correlated with poverty and aesthetically unpleasant neighborhoods, which many blacks are forced to live in due to structural socioeconomic circumstances.

Why are those neighborhoods unpleasant?

Don't give me your intellectual theories. I have worked in the inner city for years. I attended a College for 2 years that was located right next to a predominantly Black community. I can tell you that this was not a pleasant experience, and was dangerous. I could write a book on what I have witnessed, including the robbing of my property, and myself at gun point, and even being beaten once and pistil whipped once, just to get my wallet. Why is it that, in Black communities, business windows are barred, and plexiglass windows installed at gas station windows. I have talked with Black neighbors who said that they were afraid to live in their own communities.
 
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Because they don't have money or political influence to get governments to invest in them.

Because their faith was not genuine.

You are the problem, putting the blame on everything else but on the responsibility of each person for their own actions.
 
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Because their faith was not genuine.

You are the problem, putting the blame on everything else but on the responsibility of each person for their own actions.

Are you saying that poor and disadvantaged people are that way because they lack faith?

Then how do you explain all of the filthy rich atheists and Muslims?
 
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Are you saying that poor and disadvantaged people are that way because they lack faith?

Then how do you explain all of the filthy rich atheists and Muslims?

The poor and disadvantaged make the best Christians, because they are empty and crushed in Spirit, the very ones Lord Jesus came to save.

Matthew 11:28 (WEB)
28 “Come to me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest.

Luke 4:18-19 (WEB) 18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor (humble, spiritually crushed). He has sent me to heal the broken hearted, to proclaim release to the captives, recovering of sight to the blind, to deliver those who are crushed, 19 and to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.” [Isaiah 61:1-2]

Matthew 11:5 (WEB) 5 the blind receive their sight, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, [Isaiah 35:5] the dead are raised up, and the poor (the crushed or humble) have good news preached to them. [Isaiah 61:1-4]

Except for the oil rich Arabs, and some hard working Arabs who have made a life for themselves, many of them are living defeated lives.
 
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I do not see faith translating into a New Life in Christ Jesus when someone ignores most of a population and then judges the broader population as somehow lesser or unworthy.

You do not have knowledge of the things you speak, and so your logic is flawed. Look at the statistics.

Those that who stand in judgment and make pronouncements about a group of people based on their inherent traits do not demonstrate the teachings in the New Testament.

Matthew 7:1-6
Romans 2:1
Romans 14:4

No one is judging by facing the facts and looking for solutions. You apparently want to keep Black Americans as victims. We want to see Black Americans become successful.
 
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Black people are the most religious ethnic group in the United States, yet news reporters would rather run a story on a black man robbing a liquor store than a black church feeding the homeless. May God have mercy on our suffering and divided nation. #blacklivesmatter

LOL

Don't believe the lies.

Blacks are historically more indoctrinated because that facet of spirituality helps/helped the US get to where it is.

Imagine hundreds of spiritually-aware slaves who weren't scared of dying or torture because they knew where they came from... it didn't happen because it failed the interest of pre-Antebellum America. That is why slave owners "briefed" black pastors on what to tell their laypersons.

The god of America isn't the god of blacks, latinos, asians or any other group that was subjugated in the States. It should be clear based on the history of treatment.
 
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LOL

Don't believe the lies.

Blacks are historically more indoctrinated because that facet of spirituality helps/helped the US get to where it is.

Imagine hundreds of spiritually-aware slaves who weren't scared of dying or torture because they knew where they came from... it didn't happen because it failed the interest of pre-Antebellum America. That is why slave owners "briefed" black pastors on what to tell their laypersons.

The god of America isn't the god of blacks, latinos, asians or any other group that was subjugated in the States. It should be clear based on the history of treatment.

Sounds like fake hate propaganda to me.
 
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Of course it does. I wouldn't expect anything less than to hear this knee-jerk reaction.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you wrote.

What is meant by:
"Blacks are historically more indoctrinated "?

How do you define, or what is meant by:
"spiritually-aware slaves"?

What is meant by:
"slave owners "briefed" black pastors on what to tell their laypersons"?

What did the slave owners brief the black pastors about? And do you have evidence of this?

I notice that "god" is with a small "g" in the following:

"The god of America isn't the god of blacks, latinos, asians"

Please explain what you mean by the difference in "god" between American and blacks, latinos, asians, and evidence for this.

How do you define "god" in that context?

Blessings
 
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Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you wrote.

What is meant by:
"Blacks are historically more indoctrinated "?

How do you define, or what is meant by:
"spiritually-aware slaves"?

What is meant by:
"slave owners "briefed" black pastors on what to tell their laypersons"?

What did the slave owners brief the black pastors about? And do you have evidence of this?

I notice that "god" is with a small "g" in the following:

"The god of America isn't the god of blacks, latinos, asians"

Please explain what you mean by the difference in "god" between American and blacks, latinos, asians, and evidence for this.

How do you define "god" in that context?

Blessings

I qualified everything in my post.

It sounded like fake propaganda to you - which is your right as a sovereign human.
 
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Some people want to continue portraying Black Americans as victims, and so unable to have a true faith in Lord Jesus. That is a myth is being continually brainwashed into Black Americans to make them believe they cannot change because of past or present conditions. I know from experience that true faith in Lord Jesus is a new life despite circumstance.

What could possibly be the reasons for a person to continue to portray Black Americans as victims, unless their purpose is to keep the Black American from being successful. Such people who continually portray Black Americans as victims appear to want them to continue living defeated lives.

God is more powerful in those who believe than the tribulations, sufferings, temptations of this world. If one's faith is genuine, there are no worldly disturbances that can destroy ones faith.

History also bears this out. In the first century, the true believers in Lord Jesus were persecuted, beaten, thrown to lions, burned at the state, and so much more, but their faith just increased all the more. We did not see these faithful Christians turn to crime, and leave their children and families, just because life was difficult for them.

The Black American is the only ethnicity that is constantly being portrayed as a victim of circumstances, and so is unable come to a true faith. That has got to stop. IF this continues, many Black Americans will continue to live defeated lives.

I didn't say anything about blacks being victims. I just offered other explanations as to why blacks might have higher incarceration rates that whites, without necessarily attacking their characters.
 
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