God's Grace is : The only Law for the Born again.

Chris35 said:

Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.

24“ ‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws


All Gods work, where does free will come in?

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He moves in us to follow His Decrees, He does not force us.

HIM said: ↑
He moves in us to follow His Decrees, He does not force us.

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Sidon said:

Jesus lives through the born again, to produce "spiritual fruit".
Commandments and the Law, are neither.

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Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

A law is something establish, it just is and there is no changing it because it is. These are of God in His creation.
In His Creation There our Moral laws which are of God and we who were made in His image and likeness. We are design to function to our uttermost when we allow ourselves to be governed by these Laws. These are in the heart and mind. These are they which were of the Decalogue and of some of those contained in the Book of the Law.
And there Natural Laws which we see in the science of His Creation. Neither change, Both are because they are. And if something disrupts any of these laws it throws the whole system out of whack bending it towards destruction.

A statute or ordinance is something that is mandated.

Sidon said:

Well, if you need to explain what you originally said so that your question becomes clear, then, that is what you should do so that i can answer it.

So, "who will come to Christ"?
A.) As many as will .

The Cross and the Blood of Jesus is always available , and "whosoever" will come, let them come".
John 3:16

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So you leave it up to chance, or to the integrity of the individual apart from Christ, to submit to their enemy to whom Romans 8 says they cannot submit; you refuse to see this.

I asked you who they are: They are ONLY the ones to whom God grants the ability to repent and submit and believe —those God chose to regenerate. You carefully avoided answering my question both times, being sure to leave room for the sovereignty of human will.

Sidon said:

Everyone has freewill., so are are "granted" the right to believe in Jesus.

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You get that from reasoning, or from Scripture?

Sidon said:

Are you a Hebrew?
I didnt know you were Jewish.., as this is the "house of Israel", which is not the "body of Christ".

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Romans 10:6-8 is a paraphrase from Deut 30:11-14 and the reality of it.
For The word; Christ, to keep His commandments and statutes, and to turn unto the Lord with all thy heart and all our soul is very nigh unto us. It is in our hearts and in our mouths that we may do it. THAT IS THE FAITH in which we preach.

Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above)
Rom 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Deut 30:10 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.
Deut 30:11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.
Deut 30:12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Deut 30:13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Deut 30:14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

The Word being very nigh unto us. In our hearts and in our mouths is the same thing just in other words that was prophesied in Jeremiah and Ezekiel. And it is the circumcision that is mentioned in Deut 30:6.

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Ezek 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Deut 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

Sidon said:

Freewill comes from God.

Its start's here...>"Let us make Man in OUR Image"....and Adam was made.
He's made in the "likeness" of God.
God has Freewill, and so does His "likeness" who is "made in God's Image".

God told them.....You have a choice....You can chose to eat that apple or not.
See that Choice, Mark?
Thats freewill.

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So, you got that from reasoning; Scripture does not say we have freewill, the way you sometimes use the term.

You have not been listening: Calvinism does NOT deny choice. It INSISTS on it.

Sidon said:

Are you familiar with the Cross of Christ?
The reason i ask, is because you never mention it in your endless rants about keeping the law and commandment?

Why do you think that is so?
Members here would like to know why the CROSS is never mentioned when you talk about how you are trying to keep yourself saved.

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Christ and him crucified.
Through The word; Christ, we keep His commandments and statutes, and turn unto the Lord with all our heart and all our soul. For the Word is very nigh unto us. It is in our hearts and in our mouths that we may do it. THAT IS THE FAITH in which we preach.

Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above)
Rom 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Deut 30:10 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.
Deut 30:11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.
Deut 30:12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Deut 30:13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Deut 30:14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

The Word being very nigh unto us. In our hearts and in our mouths is the same thing just in other words that was prophesied in Jeremiah and Ezekiel. And it is the circumcision that is mentioned in Deut 30:6.

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Ezek 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Deut 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

Sidon said:

I'm not on "thin ice", im on the Rock of Salvation, and that's not Peter.
Believe it.

Also, all the born again are "in Christ", and there is no sin in Christ.
All the born again are "One with God", and there is no sin, in God.

If you are not born again, then go ahead, Mark, and confess your sin and believe on Jesus.
If you are born again, then God has redeemed you with His own Blood, and this "one time eternal sacrifice", is why Romans 4:8 tells you that God does not charge SIN to the born, again ever again.
If you then read 1 John 3:9, you'll read that the born again, "can't sin".
So, if you are confessing sins, and are born again, then you are not understanding the "Blood Atonement", yet.
Read my Threads, They will help you get grounded in Grace. Hebrews 13:9

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Correct me, if I am wrong. I understand the security of heaven that we have if we are among those that God gave to his Son to die to pay for their sins, but are you implying that after you have been born again that you do not commit sins?

fhansen said:

For sin to be taken away and overcome we now have the power and possibility to ‘go, and sin no more’ -John 8:11

“For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.” Rom 8:3-4

“Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.”Rom 8:12-13

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Yes, when you have been born again you are supposed to follow God's commandments and mortify the deeds of our flesh, but the only person that has been able to do that is Jesus himself. Jesus tells us "if we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Paul tells us that even though we are born again we still have a warfare within us between the Spirit and our fleshly nature, in which, many times we lose that battle.

When we have been born again, we have a fellowship with God. Every time that we yield our bodies to the lust of our flesh, we lose our fellowship with God, temporary, until we repent and regain our fellowship with him back. During the time that we are indulging ourselves in sin, we do not lose our eternal inheritance that Christ secured for us if we are included among those that his Father gave to him to die for.

Death according to Greek means "a separation". When have been born again and sin we separate ourselves from his fellowship.

Sidon said:

God came here, as Jesus, to offer His blood and body for our sin.

We can't do that for ourselves.

The way that God applies that blood atonement, is "justification by Faith".
We give God our faith in Christ, which God accepts, as "faith is counted AS righteousness"< = and God applies to us His blood and death, as our Eternal Salvation. This is how we become "born again".
Its a free GIFT.
"the Gift of Salvation".
"the Gift of Righteousness".

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Spiritual faith only comes to us after we have been regenerated and given the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, as spiritual faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. The natural man, before he has been born again by God's sovereign grace, only has faith in mankind and their accomplishments.