Help: Questions Regarding Lordship Salvation

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When you become "One with God and Christ".
= When you are Born again.

Yes, and this salvation, being one with Christ, is received by faith in Lord Jesus.

John 3:16 (WEB) 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
 
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Yes, and this salvation, being one with Christ, is received by faith in Lord Jesus.

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Completely.

Salvation is God on the Cross, 2000 yrs ago.
Its always available as the Blood Atonement to everyone who will BELIEVE.
Its a Gift, purchased by God's Blood 2000 yrs ago.

Many believe that Salvation is them doing something, such as law keeping, or commandment keeping or water baptism, or any other SELF EFFORT.
However , Salvation is JESUS, and when we have Him in US, then we have God's Salvation for eternity.
 
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Completely.

Salvation is God on the Cross, 2000 yrs ago.
Its always available as the Blood Atonement to everyone who will BELIEVE.
Its a Gift, purchased by God's Blood 2000 yrs ago.

Many believe that Salvation is them doing something, such as law keeping, or commandment keeping or water baptism, or any other SELF EFFORT.
However , Salvation is JESUS, and when we have Him in US, then we have God's Salvation for eternity.

Friend, salvation is by faith, not by works.

You, however, misunderstand what that Gospel Faith is according to the entire New Testament.

"Faith" in Jesus is not an empty word that means nothing.

The only ones who receive eternal life are those who, by faith, listen to and follow Lord Jesus.

John 10:27-28
27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.

Matthew 10:38
38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.

Faith includes repentance.

Acts 20:21
I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.

If you truly believe in Lord Jesus, you are dead to the old life of sin, and are now following Lord Jesus. That is salvation - the new life as a follower of Lord Jesus.

That is the whole purpose of the Gospel message.

Matthew 28:19-20
19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

IF you are not a disciple of Lord Jesus, you are not a Christian. Non-Christians not saved.

Acts 11:26
The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

Blessings
 
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The only ones who receive eternal life are those who, by faith, listen to and follow Lord Jesus.
Blessings

You are teaching self saving in place of Salvation, pretending to teach Salvation as a Gift.

Eternal life is not found by FOLLOWING anyone.
Jesus said that "all that Believe in ME, i GIVE unto them ETERNAL LIFE, and they shall never perish".

So, do you understand...>"I GIVE unto them"?

Does that sound like "following"?

It does not, because is it not.

Salvation is a GIFT.
Eternal life is GIVEN, and not EARNE$D by your self effort.
 
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You are teaching self saving in place of Salvation, pretending to teach Salvation as a Gift.

Eternal life is not found by FOLLOWING anyone.
Jesus said that "all that Believe in ME, i GIVE unto them ETERNAL LIFE, and they shall never perish".

So, do you understand...>"I GIVE unto them"?

Does that sound like "following"?

It does not, because is it not.

Salvation is a GIFT.
Eternal life is GIVEN, and not EARNE$D by your self effort.

You are not refuting me, but the Very Words of Lord Jesus in the following:

Lord Jesus gives eternal life to those who listen to and follow Him.

John 10:27-28
27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.

Matthew 10:38
38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.

IF you are not a disciple of Lord Jesus, you are not a Christian. Non-Christians not saved.

Acts 11:26
The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

Are you a Christian according to God's Word?
 
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Sidon

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You are not refuting me, but the Very Words of Lord Jesus in the following:
Lord Jesus gives eternal life to those who listen to and follow Him.

We dont "follow Jesus" to have eternal life.

Jesus Himself IS Eternal life... John 14:6

Notice ..

""He that HATH the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.""

""" '"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."""


So, if you have Jesus you have Eternal life.

Not by following but by POSSESSING HIM.

This means you are born again and JESUS who is ETERNAL LIFE, is IN you.
"Christ IN YOU, the hope of Glory".

That is how you "have" Eternal life.
You "have" the ONE who Himself IS Eternal Life., IN YOU.
 
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We dont "follow Jesus" to have eternal life.

Jesus Himself IS Eternal life... John 14:6

Notice ..

""He that HATH the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.""

""" '"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."""


So, if you have Jesus you have Eternal life.

Not by following but by POSSESSING HIM.

This means you are born again and JESUS who is ETERNAL LIFE, is IN you.
"Christ IN YOU, the hope of Glory".

That is how you "have" Eternal life.
You "have" the ONE who Himself IS Eternal Life., IN YOU.

You are not reading the context of Scripture. You are just quoting without understanding.

Eternal life is by faith in Lord Jesus.

John 3:16 (WEB)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
 
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Piper said:
"You know, Bill (not his real name), I think Jesus was your Lord before that later act of submission. I think he was your Lord the night you were converted and since then your experience has been one of more and more yieldedness to his sovereign rights as Lord over your life. And I don’t think that you have bowed to his lordship consistently since that time you ‘made him Lord’. You are not fully yielded now or you would be sinless. But he is still your Lord now. And you were not fully yielded then, but he was your Lord then."


John Piper appears to be wrong according to God's Word.

Piper may not have represented the point well, but he had a good point. I know Piper's theology pretty well. His point does not oppose what the Bible says, including the scriptures you quoted; his point is that Christ IS Lord —our submission does not make him Lord.
 
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