JESUS and the APOSTLES OBEYED GOD'S LAW and the SABBATH!

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Read post 1912.
Your post 1912 was repetition of what you posted earlier. I read it and it was addressed in detail in posts # 1904 linked; 1905 linked; 1906 linked; 1907 linked; 1908 linked; 1909 linked; 1910 linked; 1911 linked; and 1916 linked for which I am still awaiting a response from you. Perhaps you missed the linked posts above and the scriptures provided in them that disagree with you? Did you read them? We should be careful however not to find ourselves ignoring God's Word according to the scriptures when we have the opportunity to be corrected if something we believe may not be supported by the scriptures. According to the scriptures, if we find ourselves ignoring God's Word it does not make them disappear according to Jesus in John 12:47-48 as the Words of God we accept or reject become our judge come judgement day. Let's all pray that we are all careful to believe and follow what Gods' Word says as I am sure that none of us want to find ourselves in that group or people that Jesus says will be disappointed at His coming in Matthew 7:21-23.
 
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Whoa, not sure where this is coming from, I just asked a question like you have been asking me questions for a very long time now.
I didn't mean anything impolite or disrespectful. I just didn't want us to go in circles, which neither of us want :)

If you do not want to answer the question I asked, that's fine, it can be between you and God.
But I do want to answer your question, I just want to use words that will ring true for you.

If I say the law is fulfilled as I have in the past, then I think you may respond by saying that "fulfilled" sounds a lot like "destroyed".

So what is the word or words that you used to describe your actions regarding the law not to eat yeast once a year?

I know that I'm answering your question with a question, but again, we don't want to go in circles!

This is not about criticism, this is about the Truth. You are free to believe whatever you wish, God gives us free will , but there is only one Truth and Jesus is coming soon.

God bless friend and I hope you have a good evening.
God bless you too, and may you have a wonderful day!
 
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So much for God's chosen people, the Jews! The deliverance from Egypt, the time in the wilderness, the giving of the law, the construction of the tabernacle, the conquering of Canaan, the judges, the kings, the exiles, the prophets, etc. -- all a colossal joke (or colossal waste of time). Did God have nothing better to do until the crucifixion?

Prideful Religious men have been mocking God for centuries, creating their own path to eternity since Cain, and Sodom, and the tower of Babel. Your religious philosophy is nothing new, and prophesied to boot. Fascinating how you look at the God of Abraham.

Fascinating, but nothing new.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17 And the way of peace have they not known:

18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Psalms 14:2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.

5 There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.

6 Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the LORD is his refuge.

You would omit and reject every example of Faithful men in the entire Bible to promote your own religious philosophy. And you are free to do so. But those who "fear the God of Abraham" are the generation of the righteous. A generation that you and the Pope preach to the world never existed.
 
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No, I do not fully agree with what you wrote in that post.

So now a logistics question. Shall I continue working through post 1890, or shall I start at the top of this latest post?

So then here is where the discussion part takes place. What do you believe is inaccurate in my post, and why? There is no sense in moving on until the Scriptures, which are for Doctrine and Reproof and correction, can answer the question I posed. And we are here to to find God's truth, Yes?
 
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So then here is where the discussion part takes place. What do you believe is inaccurate in my post, and why? There is no sense in moving on until the Scriptures, which are for Doctrine and Reproof and correction, can answer the question I posed. And we are here to to find God's truth, Yes?
Thank you for the nice response.

In order to talk about what I believe is inaccurate in your post 1894, I would want to go through it section by section.

Are you requesting that I leave off post 1890 for now, and instead start going through 1894?
 
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Thank you for the nice response.

In order to talk about what I believe is inaccurate in your post 1894, I would want to go through it section by section.

Are you requesting that I leave off post 1890 for now, and instead start going through 1894?

You said you didn't agree with my post 1894, which answered the question I asked on 1890.

"According to Scriptures, Who did God have the Law and Prophets written for"?

You said you disagreed with my post. I simply asked for your reasons as to why you believe my post, that you said you don't agree with, is inaccurate.
 
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You said you didn't agree with my post 1894, which answered the question I asked on 1890.

"According to Scriptures, Who did God have the Law and Prophets written for"?

You said you disagreed with my post. I simply asked for your reasons as to why you believe my post, that you said you don't agree with, is inaccurate.
Did you want just a general answer as in,
"The scriptures cited don't fully support your point"
or did you want something more specific?

If you want something more specific, I will want to go through post 1894 section by section.
 
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So what is the word or words that you used to describe your actions regarding the law not to eat yeast once a year?


God bless you too, and may you have a wonderful day!

If you read my post I asked you if the yeast had a deeper meaning than it being a health law in your opinion and you never answered my question. So I am not really sure what you are referring to by my "actions" regarding yeast when it was never really discussed.
 
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Colossians 2:4;10;11; 13; 14;16 -Now this I say lest anyone should deceive you with persuasive words.

And you are COMPLETE IN HIM, who is the head of all principality and power.

In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by circumcision of Christ.

And you being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

Now Paul teaches that ALL of the old covenant, ALL of the Law of Moses has been taken out of the way by Christ death on the cross.

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Not some but all of the old covenant has been taken out of the way. We are now under the new covenant that is Christ's will and testament.

Christians are instructed to not allow anyone to bind the old covenant on them.

So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,

No one is to judge christians for eating of pork and other foods that were forbidden for the Jews under the old covenant.

No one is to judge christians for drinking anything that is not kosher.

No one is to judge christians on not singing psalms on a new moon.

No one is to judge christians regarding not keeping of Sabbaths.

For ALL of the old covenant has been taken out of the way by Christ.

 
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Colossians 2:4;10;11; 13; 14;16 -Now this I say lest anyone should deceive you with persuasive words.

And you are COMPLETE IN HIM, who is the head of all principality and power.

In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by circumcision of Christ.

And you being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

Now Paul teaches that ALL of the old covenant, ALL of the Law of Moses has been taken out of the way by Christ death on the cross.

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Not some but all of the old covenant has been taken out of the way. We are now under the new covenant that is Christ's will and testament.

Christians are instructed to not allow anyone to bind the old covenant on them.

So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,

No one is to judge christians for eating of pork and other foods that were forbidden for the Jews under the old covenant.

No one is to judge christians for drinking anything that is not kosher.

No one is to judge christians on not singing psalms on a new moon.

No one is to judge christians regarding not keeping of Sabbaths.

For ALL of the old covenant has been taken out of the way by Christ.

Paul was not wrong in Colossians 2:16. It is those who interpret Paul as saying God's 10 commandments are abolished in Colossians 2:14-17 however are indeed wrong putting Paul in contradiction to himself when he stated all through the new testament scriptures that Gods' law is established through faith that works by love in those who have been born again to walk in God's Spirit (see Romans 3:31; Romans 8:1-4; Romans 13:8-10; 1 Corinthians 7:19; Galatians 5:16 etc).

A careful reading of Colossians 2:14 shows that it is not God's 10 commandment that are the point of discussion here but the certificate of debt from sin (the wages of sin is death - Romans 6:23). Jesus paid the dept that was against us. He died for out sins so that we do not have to receive the penalty for sin that was against us. This is the context to Colossians 2:16 not Jesus abolishing Gods' law.

Colossians 2:16-17 [16]Let no man therefore judge you in meat,6 or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:[17], Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The above scriptures are in reference to the "shadow sabbaths" in the annual Feast days that are fulfilled and continued in the body of Christ in the new covenant. In the old covenant there were many "shadow sabbaths" in the feast days and it is these that Colossians 2:16 are in reference to not God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments that give us a knowledge of what sin is when broken in the new covenant *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4.

These annual shadow sabbaths connected to the Feast days included; (1) Feast of Unleavened Bread (first and last day) *Leviticus 23:6-8 (2) Feast of Trumpets *Leviticus 23:24-25 (3) Day of Atonement *Leviticus 23:27-32 (4) Feast of Booths *Leviticus 23:34-36 (5) Feast of First Fruits *Leviticus 23:39 (6) Feast days of Holy convocation of no work (sabbaton Colossians 2:16 *Leviticus 23:7-8; 21;24; 27; 35-36. Unlike God's 4th commandment that is linked only to the "seventh day" of the week. These ceremonial sabbaths are linked directly to the Feast days and can fall on any day of the week depending on the yearly cycle.

It is impossible that Colossians 2:16 is in reference to God's 4th commandment as God's 4th commandment is a part of the "finished work of creation" *Genesis 2:1-3. It point backwards to the finished work of creation (Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11) not forwards to things to come (Colossians 2:17). There was no sin and no law and no plan of salvation for unfallen man when the Sabbath was made for mankind *Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3. Now notice something very important. God's 4th commandment does not point forward to things to come *Colossians 2:17 it points backward (Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy - Exodus 20:8). Gods 4th commandment points backwards because it is a memorial of the finished work of creation and the celebration of God as the creator of heaven and earth...

Lets look at the commandment that points backward not forwards...

Exodus 20:8-11 [8], REMEMBER the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> {Because it is a memorial looking back to the finished work of creation that JESUS made it a Holy day of rest for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day} [9], Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: [10], But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God {This is a direct reference from God's Word defining what the Sabbath is; The SABBATH = the SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK}: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY> [11], For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT. {Reference is backward not forward to Genesis 2:1-3}

Therefore, it is impossible for God's 4th commandment seventh day Sabbath to be a "shadow law" as all the "shadow laws" are laws to do with God's plan of salvation from sin after the fall of mankind from the Mosaic book of the law. God's Sabbath was created when there was no sin, no fall, no law and no plan of salvation because mankind was in perfect harmony with God. – So there is nothing there in reference to Gods’ 4th commandment not being a requirement for Christian living in the new testament.

.............

SUMMARY: We should believe the teachings of Jesus in Mathew 5:17-20 and Paul when he says in Hebrews 4:9 THEREFORE IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH. Jesus did not come to abolish the law and the prophets he came to magnify them and make them honorable according to the prophecy of Isaiah (Isaiah 42:21; Matthew 5:17-28). According to Jesus unless we are born again into God’s new covenant promise to love we cannot enter into God’s kingdom because according to John those who are born again to walk in God’s Spirit do not practice sin (knowingly breaking God’s commandments) *Galatians 5:16; 1 John 3:6-9. Those who practice sin according to John do not know God according to 1 John 2:3-4; 1 John 3:6 who agrees with Jesus in Matthew 7:21-23 and we know that James tells us that if we knowingly break anyone of God’s 10 commandments in James 2:10-11 we stand guilty before God of sin. According to Paul in Hebrews 10:26-31 those who reject God’s Word in order to continue in known unrepentant sin are in danger of the judgement.

………………

Some questions now for you so that we can continue the discussion.

1. Where in the bible does it say that God’s 4th commandment is now abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest?

2. Are we in a saved state before God if we reject Gods’ Word once we have been given a knowledge of the truth in order to continue in known unrepentant sin?

Hope this is helpful
 
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Paul was not wrong in Colossians 2:16. It is those who interpret Paul as saying God's 10 commandments are abolished in Colossians 2:14-17 however are indeed wrong putting Paul in contradiction to himself when he stated all through the new testament scriptures that Gods' law is established through faith that works by love in those who have been born again to walk in God's Spirit (see Romans 3:31; Romans 8:1-4; Romans 13:8-10; 1 Corinthians 7:19; Galatians 5:16 etc).

A careful reading of Colossians 2:14 shows that it is not God's 10 commandment that are the point of discussion here but the certificate of debt from sin (the wages of sin is death - Romans 6:23). Jesus paid the dept that was against us. He died for out sins so that we do not have to receive the penalty for sin that was against us. This is the context to Colossians 2:16 not Jesus abolishing Gods' law.

Colossians 2:16-17 [16]Let no man therefore judge you in meat,6 or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:[17], Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The above scriptures are in reference to the "shadow sabbaths" in the annual Feast days that are fulfilled and continued in the body of Christ in the new covenant. In the old covenant there were many "shadow sabbaths" in the feast days and it is these that Colossians 2:16 are in reference to not God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments that give us a knowledge of what sin is when broken in the new covenant *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4.

These annual shadow sabbaths connected to the Feast days included; (1) Feast of Unleavened Bread (first and last day) *Leviticus 23:6-8 (2) Feast of Trumpets *Leviticus 23:24-25 (3) Day of Atonement *Leviticus 23:27-32 (4) Feast of Booths *Leviticus 23:34-36 (5) Feast of First Fruits *Leviticus 23:39 (6) Feast days of Holy convocation of no work (sabbaton Colossians 2:16 *Leviticus 23:7-8; 21;24; 27; 35-36. Unlike God's 4th commandment that is linked only to the "seventh day" of the week. These ceremonial sabbaths are linked directly to the Feast days and can fall on any day of the week depending on the yearly cycle.

It is impossible that Colossians 2:16 is in reference to God's 4th commandment as God's 4th commandment is a part of the "finished work of creation" *Genesis 2:1-3. It point backwards to the finished work of creation (Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11) not forwards to things to come (Colossians 2:17). There was no sin and no law and no plan of salvation for unfallen man when the Sabbath was made for mankind *Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3. Now notice something very important. God's 4th commandment does not point forward to things to come *Colossians 2:17 it points backward (Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy - Exodus 20:8). Gods 4th commandment points backwards because it is a memorial of the finished work of creation and the celebration of God as the creator of heaven and earth...

Lets look at the commandment that points backward not forwards...

Exodus 20:8-11 [8], REMEMBER the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> {Because it is a memorial looking back to the finished work of creation that JESUS made it a Holy day of rest for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day} [9], Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: [10], But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God {This is a direct reference from God's Word defining what the Sabbath is; The SABBATH = the SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK}: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY> [11], For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT. {Reference is backward not forward to Genesis 2:1-3}

Therefore, it is impossible for God's 4th commandment seventh day Sabbath to be a "shadow law" as all the "shadow laws" are laws to do with God's plan of salvation from sin after the fall of mankind from the Mosaic book of the law. God's Sabbath was created when there was no sin, no fall, no law and no plan of salvation because mankind was in perfect harmony with God. – So there is nothing there in reference to Gods’ 4th commandment not being a requirement for Christian living in the new testament.

.............

SUMMARY: We should believe the teachings of Jesus in Mathew 5:17-20 and Paul when he says in Hebrews 4:9 THEREFORE IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH. Jesus did not come to abolish the law and the prophets he came to magnify them and make them honorable according to the prophecy of Isaiah (Isaiah 42:21; Matthew 5:17-28). According to Jesus unless we are born again into God’s new covenant promise to love we cannot enter into God’s kingdom because according to John those who are born again to walk in God’s Spirit do not practice sin (knowingly breaking God’s commandments) *Galatians 5:16; 1 John 3:6-9. Those who practice sin according to John do not know God according to 1 John 2:3-4; 1 John 3:6 who agrees with Jesus in Matthew 7:21-23 and we know that James tells us that if we knowingly break anyone of God’s 10 commandments in James 2:10-11 we stand guilty before God of sin. According to Paul in Hebrews 10:26-31 those who reject God’s Word in order to continue in known unrepentant sin are in danger of the judgement.

………………

Some questions now for you so that we can continue the discussion.

1. Where in the bible does it say that God’s 4th commandment is now abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest?

2. Are we in a saved state before God if we reject Gods’ Word once we have been given a knowledge of the truth in order to continue in known unrepentant sin?

Hope this is helpful
The law of Moses which includes the Sabbath has been done away, Colossians 2:14-17

Sunday worship has already been established. It is a holy day that 1st century Christians are to keep not as a "Christian Sabbath " but as the Lords day of worship, Acts 20:7; Hebrews 10:25; 1Corinthians 16:2; 1Corinthians 11:17-29; Matthew 28:1

Nowhere in Jesus' new covenant is there a command to keep the Sabbath and no penalty for not keeping it.
 
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The law of Moses which includes the Sabbath has been done away, Colossians 2:14-17

Sunday worship has already been established. It is a holy day that 1st century Christians are to keep not as a "Christian Sabbath " but as the Lords day of worship, Acts 20:7; Hebrews 10:25; 1Corinthians 16:2; Matthew 28:1

Nowhere in Jesus' new covenant is there a command to keep the Sabbath and no penalty for not keeping it.

Please go ahead and show me a single scripture that says God's 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest? - There is none and you have not provided any. Your post here is repetition already addressed in detail that you have not responded to (see post # 1930 linked). Sunday worship is a man made teaching and tradition that many unknowingly follow while breaking God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments that Paul and John says gives us a knowledge of what sin is when broken in Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7 and 1 John 3:4 and James says if we break any one of them we stand guilty before God of sin in James 2:10-11. Jesus even says that if we knowingly follow man-made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God in Matthew 15:3-9 we are not worshiping. The question we should all be asking ourselves is who do I believe and follow; God or man? For me only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow them *Romans 3:4; Acts of the Apostles 5:29. According to the scriptures those who reject God's Word in order to continue in known unrepentant sin after they have been given a knowledge of the truth of God's Word and choose to reject it do not enter into God's kingdom and are in danger of the judgement according to Hebrews 10:26-31. Something I believe we should all pray about.
 
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If you read my post I asked you if the yeast had a deeper meaning than it being a health law in your opinion and you never answered my question. So I am not really sure what you are referring to by my "actions" regarding yeast when it was never really discussed.
I think I heard once that yeast breads were basically invented in Egypt. A little yeast works its way through the whole lump of dough. Yeast is often used in the New testament as a symbol for worldliness, I think.

So one deeper meaning of that law is to avoid friendship with the world, imo.
 
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Did you want just a general answer as in,
"The scriptures cited don't fully support your point"
or did you want something more specific?

If you want something more specific, I will want to go through post 1894 section by section.

I was hoping maybe you might actually engage in an honest and unbiased manner, the Scriptures I posted, and back up your assertion that they don't support the seemingly obvious Biblical truth, that God had the Law and Prophets written for "our admonition", that is, New Covenant Believers, "upon whom the ends of the world are come".

Since you don't believe this to be true, wouldn't it be in line with the Christ's instructions regarding how to treat your neighbor, to give the Biblical reason for your unbelief?

I mean, to what benefit is it for others, to tell someone they are wrong, and not give the reasons why?
 
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I was hoping maybe you might actually engage in an honest and unbiased manner, the Scriptures I posted, and back up your assertion that they don't support the seemingly obvious Biblical truth, that God had the Law and Prophets written for "our admonition", that is, New Covenant Believers, "upon whom the ends of the world are come".

Since you don't believe this to be true, wouldn't it be in line with the Christ's instructions regarding how to treat your neighbor, to give the Biblical reason for your unbelief?

I mean, to what benefit is it for others, to tell someone they are wrong, and not give the reasons why?
Yes, it is fully in line with Christ's teaching to give the biblical reasons why I didn't fully agree with what you had said.

However, you had also asked me to go through post 1890 section by section.

So what I'm asking is, do you want me to leave off responding to post 1890 for a time and instead start going through post 1894?
 
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The law of Moses which includes the Sabbath has been done away, Colossians 2:14-17

Sunday worship has already been established. It is a holy day that 1st century Christians are to keep not as a "Christian Sabbath " but as the Lords day of worship, Acts 20:7; Hebrews 10:25; 1Corinthians 16:2; 1Corinthians 11:17-29; Matthew 28:1

Nowhere in Jesus' new covenant is there a command to keep the Sabbath and no penalty for not keeping it.

God's Ten Commandments is referred to as "My Commandments i.e. God's laws" and never "ordinances" in the Bible. It's can also be referred to as laws but that is a generic term which could include the laws of Moses as well, which is a different covenant than God's Ten Commandments.

Colossians 2:14-17 cannot be referring to the 4th commandment for a few reasons.

1. God said it was a perpetual covenant Exodus 16:31, Psalms 89:34, Psalms 111:7,8
2. It's referring to "ordinances" not Commandments
3. The Sabbath is not a shadow of things to come, it points back to creation as a memorial to our Savior Genesis 2:2,3
4. The 4th commandment has nothing to do with food or drink Exodus 20:8-11
5. The Sabbath doesn't end at the cross clearly from Isaiah 66:23

There is more than one Sabbath in the Bible, the weekly Sabbath that is God's holy day and is part of a Covenant of Ten. We are told you break one you break them all and certainly it is not okay to lie, murder, worship other gods so no different with God's sacred seventh day Sabbath.

The Ten was personally written by God and are considered pure, righteous, holy, love, and a light to our path. The Ten was never referred to as "against us" like the laws of Moses.

Moses wrote the Ten, not God.

Deut 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you; which contained in the ordinances the annual Sabbath Feast days which is about food and drink.

Compare this back to Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

It us obvious Paul is not referring to one of God's commandments but the annual Sabbath(s) feast days, Paul makes sure we understand the differences between the ceremonial laws and God's laws when he said:

1 Corinthian 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.

People do use Colossians as a reason to not keep God's Sabbath and break the 4th commandment, but that is not coming from God. Jesus kept the Sabbath as did the disciples and we will be keeping Sabbath on the New Earth. I would recommend studying this area a little further and ask the guidance of the Holy Spirit because according to scripture, you break one commandment you break them all, and when we worship God on His chosen day and not mans, we are allowing God to be God and doing His will versus the will of man, or in the case, the Catholic church.
 
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I think I heard once that yeast breads were basically invented in Egypt. A little yeast works its way through the whole lump of dough. Yeast is often used in the New testament as a symbol for worldliness, I think.

So one deeper meaning of that law is to avoid friendship with the world, imo.

Deut 16:3 You shall eat no leavened bread with it; seven days you shall eat unleavened bread with it, that is, the bread of affliction (for you came out of the land of Egypt in haste), that you may remember the day in which you came out of the land of Egypt all the days of your life.
 
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Deut 16:3 You shall eat no leavened bread with it; seven days you shall eat unleavened bread with it, that is, the bread of affliction (for you came out of the land of Egypt in haste), that you may remember the day in which you came out of the land of Egypt all the days of your life.
Yes! Having our old sinful nature removed and now living a new life in Christ is like coming out of Egypt.

I don't think we then need to continue doing the physical requirement of that law, we can eat physical bread with physical yeast in it any day of the year. But how does it look to you?
 
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Yes! Having our old sinful nature removed and now living a new life in Christ is like coming out of Egypt. I don't think we then need to continue doing the physical requirement of that law, we can eat physical bread with physical yeast in it any day of the year. But how does it look to you?

If we are not doing the physical requirements of what Gods Word asks us to do then it is simply evidence we do not know God and are lying not only to ourselves but to others according to 1 John 2:3-4. According to Jesus unless a man is born again not to practice sin (breaking Gods' law) he cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven *John 3:3:7; 1 John 3:4-9. Love is not separate from God's law, it is expressed as physical obedience to Gods law in all those who are born again with a new heart to love according to the scriptures in the new covenant (John 3:3-7; 1 John 3:6-9; 1 John 5:2-4; Hebrews 8:10-12.

Therefore, if we love your fellow man under the new covenant we will not lie, steal or kill them. Same as if we love God, we will not have other gods, not use Gods' name in vain, not make idols and worship them and not break His Sabbath because we love God.

The purpose of God's law (10 commandments) in the new covenant has the same role it always has and that is to give us the knowledge of good (moral right doing) and evil (moral wrong doing); sin (moral wrong doing and breaking God's law) and righteousness (moral right doing or obedience to Gods' law) *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Psalms 119:172.

According to the scriptures if we knowingly break anyone of God's 10 commandments after God gives us a knowledge of the truth of His Word according to the scriptures we stand guilty before God of sin (James 4:17; Acts of the Apostles 17:30-31; James 2:10-11) and those who continue in known unrepentant sin will not enter into Gods' kingdom and are in danger of the judgement according to Paul in Hebrews 10:26-31;.

If therefore we have been born again to enter into Gods new covenant promise according to the scriptures in Hebrews 8:10-12 from Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Ezekiel 36:24-27 we will not practice sin (breaking God's Law) because those who love God are obedient to Gods' Word *John 14:15; John 15:10; 1 John 5:2-3; 1 John 3:6-9; James 2:17-26; Revelation 12:17: Revelation 14:12; Revelation 22:14.

According to the scriptures therefore, faith does not abolish Gods' law it establishes Gods' law *Romans 3:31. I think you are not understanding the above if I am being honest with you as all the above leads us back to Gods' 4th commandment which is one of Gods' 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken and righteousness when obeyed and is a part of our duty of love to God.
 
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You cannot have true physical obedience to Gods law without being born again with a new heart to love according to the scriptures in the new covenant (John 3:3-7; 1 John 3:6-9; 1 John 5:2-4; Hebrews 8:10-12. Therefore, if you love your fellow man under the new covenant will you lie, steal or kill them? Same as if you love God, will you have other gods, use Gods' name in vain, make idols and worship them or break His Sabbath? The purpose of God's law (10 commandments) in the new covenant has the same role it always had and that is to give us the knowledge of good (moral right doing) and evil (moral wrong doing); sin (moral wrong doing and breaking God's law) and righteousness (moral right doing or obedience to Gods' law) *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Psalms 119:172. If we knowingly break anyone of God's 10 commandments after God givers us a knowledge of the truth of His Word according to the scriptures we stand guilty before God of sin according to James in James 2:10-11 and those who continue in known unrepentant sin will not enter into Gods' kingdom and are in danger of the judgement according to Paul in Hebrews 10:26-31;. If therefore we have been born again to enter into Gods new covenant promise according to the scriptures in Hebrews 8:10-12 from Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Ezekiel 36:24-27 we will not practice sin (breaking God's Law) because those who love God are obedient to Gods' law *John 14:15; John 15:10; 1 John 5:2-3; 1 John 3:6-9; James 2:17-26; Revelation 12:17: Revelation 14:12; Revelation 22:14. According to the scriptures, faith does not abolish Gods' law it establishes Gods' law according to the scriptures in Romans 3:31. I think you are not understanding the above if I am being honest with you as all the above leads us back to Gods' 4th commandment which is one of Gods' 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken and righteousness when obeyed and is a part of our duty of love to God.
Hi LoveGodsWord,

Good to hear from you again!

Did you want to respond to posts 1806 and 1808? Or would you like me to respond to your most recent post here, and go through it section by section?
 
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