Election rule violations discovered in Fulton County Georgia

Valletta · Jun 15, 2021

The CNN article below mentions potential chain of custody rule violation in regard to Fulton County ballot drop boxes:
Georgia's Fulton County under state investigation for allegedly violating ballot drop box form rules - CNNPolitics

Quartermaine · Jun 15, 2021

your OP title is incredibly misleading

Brihaha · Jun 15, 2021

Oh no! Our ballot drop boxes allowed too many minorities to vote..we can't have that down here! Especially during a pandemic. Hahaha. It's no coincidence how all of trumps "election fraud" crying is strategically centered around cities with high populations of minorities. He continues using white grievances to manipulate y'all. And y'all choose to oblige him. Sad.

Hank77 · Jun 15, 2021

Valletta said:
The CNN article below mentions potential chain of custody rule violation in regard to Fulton County ballot drop boxes:
Georgia's Fulton County under state investigation for allegedly violating ballot drop box form rules - CNNPolitics

Which has nothing to do with ...

Washington (CNN)Georgia Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has opened an investigation into Fulton County for allegedly violating state rules "requiring absentee ballot drop box transfer forms to be filled out," his office confirmed to CNN on Monday.

A source with knowledge of the investigation cautioned to CNN that the probe "does not have any implications about fraudulent or missing ballots in Fulton any more than it meant that in the other smaller, more conservative counties," saying: "To be clear, we're investigating a rule violation" in Fulton County.

Georgia's Fulton County under state investigation for allegedly violating ballot drop box form rules - CNNPolitics

essentialsaltes · Jun 17, 2021

Election processes in Georgia's most populous county were badly managed, sloppy and chaotic, but there was no evidence of fraud, said an independent monitor who spent many hours over several months observing county election workers.

The investigator has a bad penchant for piquant phrasing, but this is a good look from someone who was there all through the process as an independent observer tasked to watch over the county's elections like a hawk due to a consent decree.

Whyayeman · Jun 18, 2021

It is Raffensberger's bad faith towards his own state. Here is what

Fulton County Commission Chairman Robb Pitts said about Raffensberger:

It appears that Secretary of State Raffensperger is laying the groundwork for a hostile takeover of Fulton County's Board of Registrations & Elections," Pitts said in a statement. "His comrades in this fight are conspiracy theorists who promote the same Big Lie that he purportedly doesn't believe. The votes have been counted three times, including a hand recount, and President Biden came out ahead every time. Given the results in 2020, I would suggest he focus more on the next election than relitigating this last one.

Sound advice.

Valletta · Jun 18, 2021

Whyayeman said:
It is Raffensberger's bad faith towards his own state. here is what

Fulton County Commission Chairman Robb Pitts said about Raffensberger:

It appears that Secretary of State Raffensperger is laying the groundwork for a hostile takeover of Fulton County's Board of Registrations & Elections," Pitts said in a statement. "His comrades in this fight are conspiracy theorists who promote the same Big Lie that he purportedly doesn't believe. The votes have been counted three times, including a hand recount, and President Biden came out ahead every time. Given the results in 2020, I would suggest he focus more on the next election than relitigating this last one.

Sound advice.

There were supposedly just "a few" forms missing--385 is NOT a few. Raffensberger, so criticized by the Trump campaign, has not essentially been forced to take some action.

Ophiolite · Jun 18, 2021

Valletta said:
There were supposedly just "a few" forms missing--385 is NOT a few. Raffensberger, so criticized by the Trump campaign, has not essentially been forced to take some action.

And what do you feel is the significance of this?

Valletta · Jun 18, 2021

Ophiolite said:
And what do you feel is the significance of this?

I've already been calling for a full forensic audit in Georgia because of the dishonesty surrounding the delay in counting. Much due to new supposedly COVID imposed rules, the mail-in ballots are a huge weakness in the chain of custody. This is really the first admission by election officials and overseers )that I know of) of a major violation of rules. I don't think it would have been found had not people pressed for records.

Whyayeman · Jun 18, 2021

Valletta said:
I don't think it would have been found had not people pressed for records.

On the contrary, there were complaints immediately and lurid stories of van-loads of faked voting papers. They came to nothing because of the lack of evidence.

What is it about 'a full forensic audit' that is superior to the official certification of the results?

Valletta · Jun 18, 2021

Whyayeman said:
On the contrary, there were complaints immediately and lurid stories of van-loads of faked voting papers. They came to nothing because of the lack of evidence.

What is it about 'a full forensic audit' that is superior to the official certification of the results?

Nevertheless, stonewalling took place and it took roughly seven months for this to be discovered. As to your comparison, apples and oranges. A thorough audit should take place BEFORE certification.

Arcangl86 · Jun 18, 2021

First off, the forms are a paperwork requirement. They have no part in determining if a ballot is valid or not. Second, after being asked for them, Fulton county was able to produce all but 8 of them. Fact check: Fulton County is not missing ballots or hundreds of drop box custody forms | The Current

Valletta · Jun 18, 2021

Arcangl86 said:
First off, the forms are a paperwork requirement. They have no part in determining if a ballot is valid or not. Second, after being asked for them, Fulton county was able to produce all but 8 of them. Fact check: Fulton County is not missing ballots or hundreds of drop box custody forms | The Current

Were batches of ballots run through a copy machine in supposedly the most secure and safe election in our nation's history? The Ohio Star reports:

Five sequential batches of absentee votes each appeared with the exact same vote count of 392 for Biden, 96 for President Donald Trump, and 3 for Libertarian Jo Jorgensen, a count that state officials admitted was a statistical impossibility.

The full story is at: Ariz., Georgia, Wisconsin, Penn. … the chickens come home to roost

Aryeh Jay · Jun 18, 2021

Valletta said:
Were batches of ballots run through a copy machine in supposedly the most secure and safe election in our nation's history? The Ohio Star reports:

Five sequential batches of absentee votes each appeared with the exact same vote count of 392 for Biden, 96 for President Donald Trump, and 3 for Libertarian Jo Jorgensen, a count that state officials admitted was a statistical impossibility.

The full story is at: Ariz., Georgia, Wisconsin, Penn. … the chickens come home to roost

Wow, that's some first rate journalism there, I'm surprised you didn't link to The Trump Times or Donald's Daily Bugle.

Valletta · Jun 18, 2021

Aryeh Jay said:
Wow, that's some first rate journalism there, I'm surprised you didn't link to The Trump Times or Donald's Daily Bugle.

That is something, 392 for Biden, 96 for Trump and 3 for the Libertarian candidate FIVE TIMES! Talking about odds, what are the odds MSNBC or CNN report this? About the same as them reporting on Hunter Biden's racial slurs or Frank Biden being let off.

Arcangl86 · Jun 18, 2021

Valletta said:
Were batches of ballots run through a copy machine in supposedly the most secure and safe election in our nation's history? The Ohio Star reports:

Five sequential batches of absentee votes each appeared with the exact same vote count of 392 for Biden, 96 for President Donald Trump, and 3 for Libertarian Jo Jorgensen, a count that state officials admitted was a statistical impossibility.

The full story is at: Ariz., Georgia, Wisconsin, Penn. … the chickens come home to roost

And these forms would have prevented that how?

Valletta · Jun 19, 2021

Arcangl86 said:
And these forms would have prevented that how?

Forms are simply part of the chain of custody, forms would not necessarily prevent the five duplicate counts of 392/96/3. First the five batches of ballots need to be compared.

Aryeh Jay · Jun 19, 2021

Valletta said:
Forms are simply part of the chain of custody, forms would not necessarily prevent the five duplicate counts of 392/96/3. First the five batches of ballots need to be compared.

You do know that Trump won Ohio right? Seems like a waste of time and money.

KCfromNC · Jun 19, 2021

Whyayeman said:
On the contrary, there were complaints immediately and lurid stories of van-loads of faked voting papers. They came to nothing because of the lack of evidence.

What is it about 'a full forensic audit' that is superior to the official certification of the results?

Looking at other "full forensic autdits", the difference is they are done by right-wing groups with no prior qualifications at auditing elections. Draw whatever conclusions from that fact one will.

Whyayeman · Jun 19, 2021

Valletta said:
forms would not necessarily prevent the five duplicate counts

Er, alleged duplicate counts.

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