Top Historian: U.S. ‘Dealing Not Just With Decay Of Traditional Religion,’ But Something ‘Far Worse’

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Top Historian: U.S. ‘Dealing Not Just With Decay Of Traditional Religion,’ But Something ‘Far Worse’

“It’s not a secular political ideology … it’s not really about economics,” he continued. “It is about salvation, membership of the elect of the woke. It’s about persecuting heretics. It’s about elaborate rituals of speech that can only be pursued by the believers. It’s rather cult like, Matt Yglesias is not somebody I usually agree with, but he called it the Great Awokening. This was a very astute observation. So we are dealing not just with the decay of traditional religion, but far worse, the rise of new fake religions, political religions, and one thing that’s very clear from the 20th century is that when people take their religious feelings, and they apply them to political ideologies, terrible things can happen.”
 

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"....and one thing that’s very clear from the 20th century is that when people take their religious feelings, and they apply them to political ideologies, terrible things can happen."
I can agree with this.
 
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...fake religions...

What if all religions are fake? :idea:

This has got to be the most ironic and projecting commentary I think I've ever read. I seriously think people just live in not just different worlds, but different realities.
 
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"Fellow at conservative think tank goes on right-wing talk show to rail against the left." Is water still wet?

Water will still be wet when, later today or tomorrow, "Fellow at liberal think tank goes on left-wing talk show to rail against the right".

Water is so predictable!
 
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"Fellow at conservative think tank goes on right-wing talk show to rail against the left." Is water still wet?

Niall Ferguson spoke to Tucker Carlson (that should cast doubt on his personal credibility) and the source is the Daily Wire. IOW, take whatever Ferguson and Carlson said with a grain of salt.
 
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I've seen woke stuff described as a kind of religion, but with no redemption, just guilt. Seems to me that it makes sense. Some of the George Floyd artwork I've seen totally looks like religious iconography.

I'm not American, but it's hard to dismiss wokeness as just a weird American trend, because they keep exporting it to other countries.
 
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JS: Woke is a mispronunciation of "wake" that became popular by black in the sixties, The black meaning is about social and radical justice but some people who are not black are now using that term for themselves. Is it any different than them using the Rainbow? They seem to adopt whatever they fancy.

Yet there is still true socialism though its getting buried by those extremist. Not much different than what happened in the far right! So given both sides have been compromised this would suggest there is another source out there trying to religized politics (that they succeeded with Trump is concerning enough).

So could this be an issue, perhaps, but I be more likely to believe the right if they first take responsibility for their own foray into religious politics.
 
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