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During the Gulf wars the coalition of the willing dropped over 400 tonnes of radiocative material on Iraq with devastating consequences for the children yet to be born or both Iraqis and US serviceman and women. It is a crime against the rules of war to use depleted uranium munitions , but the good ol USA and it's allies used it anyway. When you consider that America is said to be a Christian country, is it any wonder that she has many enemies?
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Dr Helen Caldicott speaking 18th March 2011

A child asks his mother about the people who burned his face and mutilated his body. The mother answers with bitterness: "The Americans." The child asks: "Where can I find them to take my revenge?" His mother answers: "You will find them when you grow up."

According to Fallujah residents, such questions are frequently asked. It it one of the effects of the US war against Iraqi children. US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said in 1996 that the deaths of an estimated 500,000 Iraqi children from UN embargos and the war of 1991 was "worth it".

But not only is the embargo to blame - the effects of the US use of munitions such as depleted uranium have contributed to rates of cancer and deformities that reportedly exceed even those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the aftermath of their nuclear annihilation - also at the hands of the Americans.

Half of babies deformed


Samira al-Aani, a paediatrician in Fallujah, writes that parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter. Studies in 2012 reported "abnormalities" among half of all babies born in the city.

Parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter.


International reports state that 440 tonnes of depleted uranium was used in areas populated by civilians in central and southern Iraqi cities. The IAEA, the UN's nuclear watchdog, says depleted uranium is a chemically toxic, radioactive substance and a danger to health in large quantities. Other studies are more damning. The US, of course, denies that it is a long-term danger to health.

By 2006, Iraqis had discovered approximately 400 contaminated sites. Six years later, 143 countries voted in the UN General Assembly for a non-binding bill to help Iraq clean up the effects of depleted uranium.

However, the US refused to admit to its crimes and refused to disclose the areas in which it used depleted uranium. Furthermore, along with the UK, France and Israel, the US voted against the UN bill.

The world continues its attempts to pass a bill at the UN to press the users of depleted uranium to admit their crimes, apologise and help clean up the disaster they have caused in Iraq.

Activists are campaigning to press governments to pass the bill in the next UN General Assembly, due to be held in December.

A toxic legacy


Ben Griffin was a British soldier who served in Iraq and has seen the tragedy of Iraqis first hand.

"It makes me so angry that, for all of our promises of freeing Iraq, what we have left them is a toxic legacy that will last for generations to come," he said.

Griffin added that he and many other soldiers were unhappy they were made complicit in such acts.

The cleanup cost in Iraq is estimated at $40 million, a drop in the ocean when compared to the billions the US spends on its wars.

We Iraqis are not waiting for our rulers to condemn the use of depleted uranium against our children, as we do not expect them to demand the trial of those responsible in front of international courts.

However, we want our leaders to at least demand an apology from the Americans for their crimes. We remind the rulers of Iraq that when Iraqi children grow up, they will not forgive those who killed them and mutilated their bodies.

Those children will scream in the faces of their aggressors with the words of Pablo Neruda: "Oh killers, from every crime you have committed, a bullet is born that will one day land in your hearts."
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Also see this site- (not for the faint hearted contains pics of deformed babies from US munitions.

Deformed Iraqi babies caused by USA use of depleted uranium
 
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Geez.

The article above was published in 2012.

They are the latest in a series of studies that have suggested a link between bombardment and a rise in birth defects. Their preliminary findings, in 2010, prompted a World Health Organisation inquiry into the prevalence of birth defects in the area. The WHO's report, out next month, is widely expected to show an increase in birth defects after the conflict. It has looked at nine "high-risk" areas in Iraq, including Fallujah and Basra. Where high prevalence is found, the WHO is expected to call for additional studies to pinpoint precise causes.

Here are some followups

The actual WHO report WHO EMRO | Summary report on the congenital birth defects study in Iraq | Iraq-news | Iraq

2013 How the World Health Organisation covered up Iraq's nuclear nightmare | Nafeez Ahmed

2016 How the U.S. made dropping radioactive bombs routine
 
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During the Gulf wars the coalition of the willing dropped over 400 tonnes of radiocative material on Iraq with devastating consequences for the children yet to be born or both Iraqis and US serviceman and women. It is a crime against the rules of war to use depleted uranium munitions , but the good ol USA and it's allies used it anyway. When you consider that America is said to be a Christian country, is it any wonder that she has many enemies?
View attachment 252410 Dr Helen Caldicott speaking 18th March 2011

A child asks his mother about the people who burned his face and mutilated his body. The mother answers with bitterness: "The Americans." The child asks: "Where can I find them to take my revenge?" His mother answers: "You will find them when you grow up."

According to Fallujah residents, such questions are frequently asked. It it one of the effects of the US war against Iraqi children. US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said in 1996 that the deaths of an estimated 500,000 Iraqi children from UN embargos and the war of 1991 was "worth it".

But not only is the embargo to blame - the effects of the US use of munitions such as depleted uranium have contributed to rates of cancer and deformities that reportedly exceed even those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the aftermath of their nuclear annihilation - also at the hands of the Americans.

Half of babies deformed


Samira al-Aani, a paediatrician in Fallujah, writes that parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter. Studies in 2012 reported "abnormalities" among half of all babies born in the city.

Parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter.


International reports state that 440 tonnes of depleted uranium was used in areas populated by civilians in central and southern Iraqi cities. The IAEA, the UN's nuclear watchdog, says depleted uranium is a chemically toxic, radioactive substance and a danger to health in large quantities. Other studies are more damning. The US, of course, denies that it is a long-term danger to health.

By 2006, Iraqis had discovered approximately 400 contaminated sites. Six years later, 143 countries voted in the UN General Assembly for a non-binding bill to help Iraq clean up the effects of depleted uranium.

However, the US refused to admit to its crimes and refused to disclose the areas in which it used depleted uranium. Furthermore, along with the UK, France and Israel, the US voted against the UN bill.

The world continues its attempts to pass a bill at the UN to press the users of depleted uranium to admit their crimes, apologise and help clean up the disaster they have caused in Iraq.

Activists are campaigning to press governments to pass the bill in the next UN General Assembly, due to be held in December.

A toxic legacy


Ben Griffin was a British soldier who served in Iraq and has seen the tragedy of Iraqis first hand.

"It makes me so angry that, for all of our promises of freeing Iraq, what we have left them is a toxic legacy that will last for generations to come," he said.

Griffin added that he and many other soldiers were unhappy they were made complicit in such acts.

The cleanup cost in Iraq is estimated at $40 million, a drop in the ocean when compared to the billions the US spends on its wars.

We Iraqis are not waiting for our rulers to condemn the use of depleted uranium against our children, as we do not expect them to demand the trial of those responsible in front of international courts.

However, we want our leaders to at least demand an apology from the Americans for their crimes. We remind the rulers of Iraq that when Iraqi children grow up, they will not forgive those who killed them and mutilated their bodies.

Those children will scream in the faces of their aggressors with the words of Pablo Neruda: "Oh killers, from every crime you have committed, a bullet is born that will one day land in your hearts."
Source
Also see this site- (not for the faint hearted contains pics of deformed babies from US munitions.

Deformed Iraqi babies caused by USA use of depleted uranium
During the Gulf wars the coalition of the willing dropped over 400 tonnes of radiocative material on Iraq with devastating consequences for the children yet to be born or both Iraqis and US serviceman and women. It is a crime against the rules of war to use depleted uranium munitions , but the good ol USA and it's allies used it anyway. When you consider that America is said to be a Christian country, is it any wonder that she has many enemies?
View attachment 252410 Dr Helen Caldicott speaking 18th March 2011

A child asks his mother about the people who burned his face and mutilated his body. The mother answers with bitterness: "The Americans." The child asks: "Where can I find them to take my revenge?" His mother answers: "You will find them when you grow up."

According to Fallujah residents, such questions are frequently asked. It it one of the effects of the US war against Iraqi children. US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said in 1996 that the deaths of an estimated 500,000 Iraqi children from UN embargos and the war of 1991 was "worth it".

But not only is the embargo to blame - the effects of the US use of munitions such as depleted uranium have contributed to rates of cancer and deformities that reportedly exceed even those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the aftermath of their nuclear annihilation - also at the hands of the Americans.

Half of babies deformed


Samira al-Aani, a paediatrician in Fallujah, writes that parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter. Studies in 2012 reported "abnormalities" among half of all babies born in the city.

Parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter.


International reports state that 440 tonnes of depleted uranium was used in areas populated by civilians in central and southern Iraqi cities. The IAEA, the UN's nuclear watchdog, says depleted uranium is a chemically toxic, radioactive substance and a danger to health in large quantities. Other studies are more damning. The US, of course, denies that it is a long-term danger to health.

By 2006, Iraqis had discovered approximately 400 contaminated sites. Six years later, 143 countries voted in the UN General Assembly for a non-binding bill to help Iraq clean up the effects of depleted uranium.

However, the US refused to admit to its crimes and refused to disclose the areas in which it used depleted uranium. Furthermore, along with the UK, France and Israel, the US voted against the UN bill.

The world continues its attempts to pass a bill at the UN to press the users of depleted uranium to admit their crimes, apologise and help clean up the disaster they have caused in Iraq.

Activists are campaigning to press governments to pass the bill in the next UN General Assembly, due to be held in December.

A toxic legacy


Ben Griffin was a British soldier who served in Iraq and has seen the tragedy of Iraqis first hand.

"It makes me so angry that, for all of our promises of freeing Iraq, what we have left them is a toxic legacy that will last for generations to come," he said.

Griffin added that he and many other soldiers were unhappy they were made complicit in such acts.

The cleanup cost in Iraq is estimated at $40 million, a drop in the ocean when compared to the billions the US spends on its wars.

We Iraqis are not waiting for our rulers to condemn the use of depleted uranium against our children, as we do not expect them to demand the trial of those responsible in front of international courts.

However, we want our leaders to at least demand an apology from the Americans for their crimes. We remind the rulers of Iraq that when Iraqi children grow up, they will not forgive those who killed them and mutilated their bodies.

Those children will scream in the faces of their aggressors with the words of Pablo Neruda: "Oh killers, from every crime you have committed, a bullet is born that will one day land in your hearts."
Source
Also see this site- (not for the faint hearted contains pics of deformed babies from US munitions.

Deformed Iraqi babies caused by USA use of depleted uranium

Well, depleted uranium has a military use, and we should keep it in the American arsenal, along with nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, and biological weapons, and landmines.

War is a dirty business, soldiers die, civilians die, and animals die.

The Iraq war was a intelligence blunder, and unfortunately, bad things happened.

The Iraq war was assured when we did not seek Iraq's unconditional surrender during the Gulf War.

As far as the deaths due to sanctions in place between the wars was the result of the Iraqi Government not complying with UN resolutions...sorry.

I wonder how many innocent people died under Sadam, and how many Kuwait'i civilians died under Iraq's occupation.
 
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During the Gulf wars the coalition of the willing dropped over 400 tonnes of radiocative material on Iraq with devastating consequences for the children yet to be born or both Iraqis and US serviceman and women. It is a crime against the rules of war to use depleted uranium munitions , but the good ol USA and it's allies used it anyway. When you consider that America is said to be a Christian country, is it any wonder that she has many enemies?
View attachment 252410 Dr Helen Caldicott speaking 18th March 2011

A child asks his mother about the people who burned his face and mutilated his body. The mother answers with bitterness: "The Americans." The child asks: "Where can I find them to take my revenge?" His mother answers: "You will find them when you grow up."

According to Fallujah residents, such questions are frequently asked. It it one of the effects of the US war against Iraqi children. US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said in 1996 that the deaths of an estimated 500,000 Iraqi children from UN embargos and the war of 1991 was "worth it".

But not only is the embargo to blame - the effects of the US use of munitions such as depleted uranium have contributed to rates of cancer and deformities that reportedly exceed even those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the aftermath of their nuclear annihilation - also at the hands of the Americans.

Half of babies deformed


Samira al-Aani, a paediatrician in Fallujah, writes that parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter. Studies in 2012 reported "abnormalities" among half of all babies born in the city.

Parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter.


International reports state that 440 tonnes of depleted uranium was used in areas populated by civilians in central and southern Iraqi cities. The IAEA, the UN's nuclear watchdog, says depleted uranium is a chemically toxic, radioactive substance and a danger to health in large quantities. Other studies are more damning. The US, of course, denies that it is a long-term danger to health.

By 2006, Iraqis had discovered approximately 400 contaminated sites. Six years later, 143 countries voted in the UN General Assembly for a non-binding bill to help Iraq clean up the effects of depleted uranium.

However, the US refused to admit to its crimes and refused to disclose the areas in which it used depleted uranium. Furthermore, along with the UK, France and Israel, the US voted against the UN bill.

The world continues its attempts to pass a bill at the UN to press the users of depleted uranium to admit their crimes, apologise and help clean up the disaster they have caused in Iraq.

Activists are campaigning to press governments to pass the bill in the next UN General Assembly, due to be held in December.

A toxic legacy


Ben Griffin was a British soldier who served in Iraq and has seen the tragedy of Iraqis first hand.

"It makes me so angry that, for all of our promises of freeing Iraq, what we have left them is a toxic legacy that will last for generations to come," he said.

Griffin added that he and many other soldiers were unhappy they were made complicit in such acts.

The cleanup cost in Iraq is estimated at $40 million, a drop in the ocean when compared to the billions the US spends on its wars.

We Iraqis are not waiting for our rulers to condemn the use of depleted uranium against our children, as we do not expect them to demand the trial of those responsible in front of international courts.

However, we want our leaders to at least demand an apology from the Americans for their crimes. We remind the rulers of Iraq that when Iraqi children grow up, they will not forgive those who killed them and mutilated their bodies.

Those children will scream in the faces of their aggressors with the words of Pablo Neruda: "Oh killers, from every crime you have committed, a bullet is born that will one day land in your hearts."
Source
Also see this site- (not for the faint hearted contains pics of deformed babies from US munitions.

Deformed Iraqi babies caused by USA use of depleted uranium

If other nations behaved toward us like we behave toward others we would impose heavy economic sanctions against them and then threaten war to create regime change. We assume the right to commit atrocities which we would never accept being done to us.

America would never survive six months under strict economic sanctions without the people rebelling. When one is the 'top dog' one has to have the moral integrity to police itself by the same standards it polices others. America has been failing in that for a very very long time.
 
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Well, depleted uranium has a military use, and we should keep it in the American arsenal, along with nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, and biological weapons, and landmines.

War is a dirty business, soldiers die, civilians die, and animals die.

The Iraq war was a intelligence blunder, and unfortunately, bad things happened.

The Iraq war was assured when we did not seek Iraq's unconditional surrender during the Gulf War.

As far as the deaths due to sanctions in place between the wars was the result of the Iraqi Government not complying with UN resolutions...sorry.

I wonder how many innocent people died under Sadam, and how many Kuwait'i civilians died under Iraq's occupation.
UM...look war is war - but I can't allow a statement like this go un-fact-checked. Let's be clear and honest - The Iraq war was based on the premise that the USA had unmistakeable intelligence that Iraq was harbouring Weapons of Mass Destruction. George Bush came to my country and told the Australian parliament that the evidence was unequivocal. Now of course not only was all that untrue, we now all know that it was largely concocted - Australia's parliament didn't take too well to be blatantly lied to, as the country naturally regarded the USA as an ally - not a con artist.

That said - war is war - but hey dont dress it with BS please.
 
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During the Gulf wars the coalition of the willing dropped over 400 tonnes of radiocative material on Iraq with devastating consequences for the children yet to be born or both Iraqis and US serviceman and women. It is a crime against the rules of war to use depleted uranium munitions , but the good ol USA and it's allies used it anyway. When you consider that America is said to be a Christian country, is it any wonder that she has many enemies?
View attachment 252410 Dr Helen Caldicott speaking 18th March 2011

A child asks his mother about the people who burned his face and mutilated his body. The mother answers with bitterness: "The Americans." The child asks: "Where can I find them to take my revenge?" His mother answers: "You will find them when you grow up."

According to Fallujah residents, such questions are frequently asked. It it one of the effects of the US war against Iraqi children. US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said in 1996 that the deaths of an estimated 500,000 Iraqi children from UN embargos and the war of 1991 was "worth it".

But not only is the embargo to blame - the effects of the US use of munitions such as depleted uranium have contributed to rates of cancer and deformities that reportedly exceed even those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the aftermath of their nuclear annihilation - also at the hands of the Americans.

Half of babies deformed


Samira al-Aani, a paediatrician in Fallujah, writes that parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter. Studies in 2012 reported "abnormalities" among half of all babies born in the city.

Parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter.


International reports state that 440 tonnes of depleted uranium was used in areas populated by civilians in central and southern Iraqi cities. The IAEA, the UN's nuclear watchdog, says depleted uranium is a chemically toxic, radioactive substance and a danger to health in large quantities. Other studies are more damning. The US, of course, denies that it is a long-term danger to health.

By 2006, Iraqis had discovered approximately 400 contaminated sites. Six years later, 143 countries voted in the UN General Assembly for a non-binding bill to help Iraq clean up the effects of depleted uranium.

However, the US refused to admit to its crimes and refused to disclose the areas in which it used depleted uranium. Furthermore, along with the UK, France and Israel, the US voted against the UN bill.

The world continues its attempts to pass a bill at the UN to press the users of depleted uranium to admit their crimes, apologise and help clean up the disaster they have caused in Iraq.

Activists are campaigning to press governments to pass the bill in the next UN General Assembly, due to be held in December.

A toxic legacy


Ben Griffin was a British soldier who served in Iraq and has seen the tragedy of Iraqis first hand.

"It makes me so angry that, for all of our promises of freeing Iraq, what we have left them is a toxic legacy that will last for generations to come," he said.

Griffin added that he and many other soldiers were unhappy they were made complicit in such acts.

The cleanup cost in Iraq is estimated at $40 million, a drop in the ocean when compared to the billions the US spends on its wars.

We Iraqis are not waiting for our rulers to condemn the use of depleted uranium against our children, as we do not expect them to demand the trial of those responsible in front of international courts.

However, we want our leaders to at least demand an apology from the Americans for their crimes. We remind the rulers of Iraq that when Iraqi children grow up, they will not forgive those who killed them and mutilated their bodies.

Those children will scream in the faces of their aggressors with the words of Pablo Neruda: "Oh killers, from every crime you have committed, a bullet is born that will one day land in your hearts."
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Also see this site- (not for the faint hearted contains pics of deformed babies from US munitions.

Deformed Iraqi babies caused by USA use of depleted uranium
You may be interested in the landmark Supreme Court Case in Italy that has unequivocally linked the use of depleted uranium used in weapons on the NATO test site there, as being the causal agent for birth defects and cancers in adjoining areas to the test site.
 
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Well, depleted uranium has a military use, and we should keep it in the American arsenal, along with nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, and biological weapons, and landmines.

Um...
nah.

Have to draw the line at weapons that cause birth defects. There are other ways to stop tanks, and it's probably waaaaayy overkill for anything else. Pretty sure we already drew the line at chem and bio, though I wouldn't be surprised if we had stockpiles somewhere. Besides, our troops are likely poisoning themselves using these weapons too.

Depleted uranium - Wikipedia
 
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Um...
nah.

Have to draw the line at weapons that cause birth defects. There are other ways to stop tanks, and it's probably waaaaayy overkill for anything else. Pretty sure we already drew the line at chem and bio, though I wouldn't be surprised if we had stockpiles somewhere. Besides, our troops are likely poisoning themselves using these weapons too.

Depleted uranium - Wikipedia

Gulf War veteran here: I did clean up after the war. It took 25 years but the VA finally service connected me with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, PTSD, vertigo and migraines.

My son has a weird form of epilepsy as well as being Autistic.

You are absolutely correct on all counts:

Saddam had chemical and biological weapons during Desert Storm (1991) We knew this because we sold them to him to fight the Iranians when the Shaw fell.

There is footage of YouTube of American Marines walking through Iraqi munitions dumps in southern Iraq. They open boxes of bombs. Purple and Green banded projectiles are biological weapons. Yellow banded are chemical weapons. These projectiles are clearly marked in English with US DOD labels. There were weapons in these dumps from England, France and a few from Russia. Mostly though they were American weapons.

Saddam did not have WMD post 1991, because we destroyed them all for him.

The chemical weapons detectors did not make a peep the whole 6 months they sat in the Saudi desert. They did not begin to go off until the air war started. We were all told they were "malfunctioning".

There were chemical tracking trucks driving around in the desert. Several times they came across pockets of towns, nomadic encampments etc. where everything and everyone (including the insects) were dead. It was very eerie!

Iraq was hit the hardest (also on account of the suctions) but cancer and birth defect rates skyrocket in Kuwait too.

Most Iraqi refugees fled to Jordan.

Saudi Arabia did not treat the Iraqis well at all.

Osama Bin Laden was disillusioned with the Saudi rulership for letting foreign armies on Saudi soil during the war.

Allied forces left 500,000. Bibles in Saudi Arabia. Saudi military people would ask us for 2 things: current event magazines and Bibles.

The war was deliberately held up for 12 hours so the Republican Guard could get out of Kuwait; then we destroyed the rest of the Iraqi army. This was called "the highway of hell".

One of the things I did was scape their bodies out of our tank treads.

One of the things FOIA (freedom of information act) produced was a declassified document of a patten for a DNA sequence that houses one of two viruses. (The viruses are still classified.)

One virus disables the host, the other virus kills the host. There are only two viruses in the world that have the same protein coat that houses them. One is the virus that causes chronic fatigue / fibromyalgia. The other virus is HIV.

This patten was found by researches who were looking for information related to the Vietnam War. When they discovered Gulf War vets had fibromyalgia / chronic fatigue - they passed this document they had unearthed along to Gulf War veteran advocacy groups. This is how we know this patten exists.

Another declassified document was found which stated that in the mid to late 80's the CIA released a biological agent into the San Francisco water supply and then 2 to 3 years later, released an airborne biological agent not the NYC subway system. HIV spread exponentially in San Francisco after this; and NYC saw the nations' first outbreak of what was dubbed "the yuppie flu". This is the chronic fatigue / fibromyalgia virus.

There is a book that was published about 15 or so years ago called "Gassed in the Gulf The inside story of Pentagon / CIA cover up of Gulf War Syndrome.". It recounts documentation of the use of chemical and biological weapons from Desert Storm.

More vets have died from Gulf War Syndrome than were killed in the war.
 
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Gulf War veteran here: I did clean up after the war. It took 25 years but the VA finally service connected me with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, PTSD, vertigo and migraines.

My son has a weird form of epilepsy as well as being Autistic.

You are absolutely correct on all counts:

Saddam had chemical and biological weapons during Desert Storm (1991) We knew this because we sold them to him to fight the Iranians when the Shaw fell.

There is footage of YouTube of American Marines walking through Iraqi munitions dumps in southern Iraq. They open boxes of bombs. Purple and Green banded projectiles are biological weapons. Yellow banded are chemical weapons. These projectiles are clearly marked in English with US DOD labels. There were weapons in these dumps from England, France and a few from Russia. Mostly though they were American weapons.

Saddam did not have WMD post 1991, because we destroyed them all for him.

The chemical weapons detectors did not make a peep the whole 6 months they sat in the Saudi desert. They did not begin to go off until the air war started. We were all told they were "malfunctioning".

There were chemical tracking trucks driving around in the desert. Several times they came across pockets of towns, nomadic encampments etc. where everything and everyone (including the insects) were dead. It was very eerie!

Iraq was hit the hardest (also on account of the suctions) but cancer and birth defect rates skyrocket in Kuwait too.

Most Iraqi refugees fled to Jordan.

Saudi Arabia did not treat the Iraqis well at all.

Osama Bin Laden was disillusioned with the Saudi rulership for letting foreign armies on Saudi soil during the war.

Allied forces left 500,000. Bibles in Saudi Arabia. Saudi military people would ask us for 2 things: current event magazines and Bibles.

The war was deliberately held up for 12 hours so the Republican Guard could get out of Kuwait; then we destroyed the rest of the Iraqi army. This was called "the highway of hell".

One of the things I did was scape their bodies out of our tank treads.

One of the things FOIA (freedom of information act) produced was a declassified document of a patten for a DNA sequence that houses one of two viruses. (The viruses are still classified.)

One virus disables the host, the other virus kills the host. There are only two viruses in the world that have the same protein coat that houses them. One is the virus that causes chronic fatigue / fibromyalgia. The other virus is HIV.

This patten was found by researches who were looking for information related to the Vietnam War. When they discovered Gulf War vets had fibromyalgia / chronic fatigue - they passed this document they had unearthed along to Gulf War veteran advocacy groups. This is how we know this patten exists.

Another declassified document was found which stated that in the mid to late 80's the CIA released a biological agent into the San Francisco water supply and then 2 to 3 years later, released an airborne biological agent not the NYC subway system. HIV spread exponentially in San Francisco after this; and NYC saw the nations' first outbreak of what was dubbed "the yuppie flu". This is the chronic fatigue / fibromyalgia virus.

There is a book that was published about 15 or so years ago called "Gassed in the Gulf The inside story of Pentagon / CIA cover up of Gulf War Syndrome.". It recounts documentation of the use of chemical and biological weapons from Desert Storm.

More vets have died from Gulf War Syndrome than were killed in the war.

Americans need to learn the truth about America so they can be able to understand why so much of the world dislikes and distrusts us. America never has been and is not now "God's gift to the world". Instead it is a cruel machine with world domination as its primary goal.

I do recommend Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" as an excellent first book to break one's belief that America is a good and benign nation.

A People's History of the United States - Wikipedia

I have read it and it is footnoted with reference documents throughout.
 
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Americans need to learn the truth about America so they can be able to understand why so much of the world dislikes and distrusts us. America never has been and is not now "God's gift to the world". Instead it is a cruel machine with world domination as its primary goal.

I do recommend Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" as an excellent first book to break one's belief that America is a good and benign nation.

A People's History of the United States - Wikipedia

I have read it and it is footnoted with reference documents throughout.

I can't believe you said those things, you should be ashamed of yourself. But, you have the right to say what you want to. I got one will stick with America. The nation is the people, not the Government.
 
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I can't believe you said those things, you should be ashamed of yourself. But, you have the right to say what you want to. I got one will stick with America. The nation is the people, not the Government.
You will have lots of company. Most Americans prefer the government approved history books used in American schools over the harsh reality of how America became the nation it is.

I am an American myself. I put four years of my life in America's military. But I've learned that one can not effect change in a nation if one does not attempt to separate myth from reality. A nation's people who willfully accepts the myth created by the government does not make a nation. In that case, the government makes the nation and the people are just lemmings rushing headlong over a cliff.

Do yourself a favor and read the book. If you can't find a copy, there is a web-site which has a complete copy that you can read on-line:

A People's History of the United States
 
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You will have lots of company. Most Americans prefer the government approved history books used in American schools over the harsh reality of how America became the nation it is.

I am an American myself. I put four years of my life in America's military. But I've learned that one can not effect change in a nation if one does not attempt to separate myth from reality. A nation's people who willfully accepts the myth created by the government does not make a nation. In that case, the government makes the nation and the people are just lemmings rushing headlong over a cliff.

Do yourself a favor and read the book. If you can't find a copy, there is a web-site which has a complete copy that you can read on-line:

A People's History of the United States

I put 22 years in America's military, I seen the good things we have done as a nation, the millions we feed, the aid we provide, the hundreds of millions we have freed. You are being mislead.
 
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During the Gulf wars the coalition of the willing dropped over 400 tonnes of radiocative material on Iraq with devastating consequences for the children yet to be born or both Iraqis and US serviceman and women. It is a crime against the rules of war to use depleted uranium munitions , but the good ol USA and it's allies used it anyway. When you consider that America is said to be a Christian country, is it any wonder that she has many enemies?
View attachment 252410 Dr Helen Caldicott speaking 18th March 2011

A child asks his mother about the people who burned his face and mutilated his body. The mother answers with bitterness: "The Americans." The child asks: "Where can I find them to take my revenge?" His mother answers: "You will find them when you grow up."

According to Fallujah residents, such questions are frequently asked. It it one of the effects of the US war against Iraqi children. US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said in 1996 that the deaths of an estimated 500,000 Iraqi children from UN embargos and the war of 1991 was "worth it".

But not only is the embargo to blame - the effects of the US use of munitions such as depleted uranium have contributed to rates of cancer and deformities that reportedly exceed even those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the aftermath of their nuclear annihilation - also at the hands of the Americans.

Half of babies deformed


Samira al-Aani, a paediatrician in Fallujah, writes that parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter. Studies in 2012 reported "abnormalities" among half of all babies born in the city.

Parents of newborns now check for deformities before asking if they have a son or daughter.


International reports state that 440 tonnes of depleted uranium was used in areas populated by civilians in central and southern Iraqi cities. The IAEA, the UN's nuclear watchdog, says depleted uranium is a chemically toxic, radioactive substance and a danger to health in large quantities. Other studies are more damning. The US, of course, denies that it is a long-term danger to health.

By 2006, Iraqis had discovered approximately 400 contaminated sites. Six years later, 143 countries voted in the UN General Assembly for a non-binding bill to help Iraq clean up the effects of depleted uranium.

However, the US refused to admit to its crimes and refused to disclose the areas in which it used depleted uranium. Furthermore, along with the UK, France and Israel, the US voted against the UN bill.

The world continues its attempts to pass a bill at the UN to press the users of depleted uranium to admit their crimes, apologise and help clean up the disaster they have caused in Iraq.

Activists are campaigning to press governments to pass the bill in the next UN General Assembly, due to be held in December.

A toxic legacy


Ben Griffin was a British soldier who served in Iraq and has seen the tragedy of Iraqis first hand.

"It makes me so angry that, for all of our promises of freeing Iraq, what we have left them is a toxic legacy that will last for generations to come," he said.

Griffin added that he and many other soldiers were unhappy they were made complicit in such acts.

The cleanup cost in Iraq is estimated at $40 million, a drop in the ocean when compared to the billions the US spends on its wars.

We Iraqis are not waiting for our rulers to condemn the use of depleted uranium against our children, as we do not expect them to demand the trial of those responsible in front of international courts.

However, we want our leaders to at least demand an apology from the Americans for their crimes. We remind the rulers of Iraq that when Iraqi children grow up, they will not forgive those who killed them and mutilated their bodies.

Those children will scream in the faces of their aggressors with the words of Pablo Neruda: "Oh killers, from every crime you have committed, a bullet is born that will one day land in your hearts."
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Also see this site- (not for the faint hearted contains pics of deformed babies from US munitions.

Deformed Iraqi babies caused by USA use of depleted uranium

I had someone I know die from "complications" die to U238 shells radiation exposure. When it was happening, people were trying to bring light to it but they were, of course, crazy.

Many people on BOTH sides have died horribly die to this.
 
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I put 22 years in America's military, I seen the good things we have done as a nation, the millions we feed, the aid we provide, the hundreds of millions we have freed. You are being mislead.

You can't say that for sure that I've been mislead without first having read the book...

We have done some good things. We have also done some very, very horrible things. And, as the thread topic points out, we continue doing horrible things.
 
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You can't say that for sure that I've been mislead without first having read the book...

We have done some good things. We have also done some very, very horrible things. And, as the thread topic points out, we continue doing horrible things.

That is one book there are many books about the good things we have done. I think I will probably skip yours. Red, white, and blue, that's all I can say.
 
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That is one book there are many books about the good things we have done. I think I will probably skip yours. Red, white, and blue, that's all I can say.

<shrug> The truth is out there. No one can make you learn it. However, willful ignorance is not something to be proud of.
 
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I put 22 years in America's military, I seen the good things we have done as a nation, the millions we feed, the aid we provide, the hundreds of millions we have freed. You are being mislead.

Americans (including us in the military) have done much good through the world; although I agree, our foreign policy in many ways leaves a lot to be desired.

I reconciled the discrepancies between policy and people back on 9/11 when my fellow Americans, pulled my fellow Americans out of burning and collapsing buildings. Although there are lots of problems with the "official narrative" of 9/11. That does not change who the American people are.

I care about this country. I pray for this country and I've prayed for righteousness to prevail regardless (or despite) whom ever is in office.

United we stand, divided we fall.
Where we go one, we go all!
 
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