I agree with that message,
@Norbert L. Like in the case of the prosperous welfare state, young men in red pill dating community sometimes call their mindset
“an abundance” mindset towards women.
In other words, they’re saying don’t get hung up on any one woman, don’t let her have you in a vice like that, there’s a whole world of women to choose from and your girlfriend has to know that.
The bottom line was that
“I always have other options.” That’s the concept anyway.
Through that abundance mentality to do with the justice system and the welfare state
(just like how men can push away the desire to place the girl they’re dating on a pedestal,) wives can now argue away the idea that divorce comes with real financial consequences.
A minority of women might even believe that divorce was financially advantageous, especially if their husband has earning power and doesn’t permit her access to those things while they’re still married. Divorce settlements can be very lucrative.
Still
(unlike me) you were very diplomatic and didn’t gender any of your conclusions.
Though I can’t help but come to the conclusion that since the welfare state primarily benefits women and children, and women more often than not receive custody over children when a marriage is ended, isn’t it most realistic to believe that this welfare emboldening is occurring in the lives of the wives more than husbands?
Which could go some ways to explain why women are enlarging the divorce statistics so badly.
Then why are you generalizing women when it comes to divorce? Yes, they are the majority, but it is not universal.
The whole point isn’t to do with universality, though it’s simply a fact of the matter that women are the vast majority of people who make the choice to divorce their spouse, liquidate their marriage and renege on their forever promises in such a form that there’s no going back from. It’s not men who are doing that, not in 90% of cases.
We can successfully argue that men are breaking their marital promise to
“forsake all others” when they have these fantasies about other women, but that’s not the act of dissolving their marriage,
divorce is the act of dissolving their marriage.
Women are
100% responsible for
their own choice to pursue divorce proceedings.
I think the real issue you’re trying to get at is that there are circumstances influencing women in their choice to blow up their marriages, and that those circumstances somehow justify those choices in the eyes of God or sensible people.
I’m waiting on some kind of circumstance that justifies their choice though. Even something that might justify that 90% to 10% disparity, because so far I’m not seeing anything.
The most concrete answer you’ve share was when you mashed Matthew chapter 19 and Matthew chapter 5 together, so I’ll share a couple of thoughts with you on that.
When you mash those distinct chapters together, what you’ve done is create a whole new teaching that the Bible never intends to teach.
The Bible never intends to teach that looking with lust at another woman or man is grounds for divorce.
Believing that to look at another person sexually was a justifiable reason for divorce would invalidate the legitimacy of every marriage that’s ever existed and ever will exist.
When you combine distinct chapters like that, I think that’s an unintended abuse of the Bibles message and a use of Gods word as a cudgel to beat already vulnerable men and to justify the poor choice to divorce by women.
In an ideal world man wouldn’t become addicted, neglected, or feel the pathological urge to browse a website full of inappropriate contentographers, however, the world hasn’t become a more righteous or loving place by women divorcing men because of it.
If anything, it’s become a worse place. Marriages fair much worse the second time round, and children of divorced homes always suffer. So, on balance, it’s an awful choice all round when women become judge, jury and executioner over their husbands moral failings.
Imagine having to listen to the full blown consequences to the shared life of a family when their wife and mother chooses divorce over all the Christian virtues
(e.g. patience, forgiveness, love.)
“Yeah well, I did divorce my husband of 12 years, yeah my children are crying and blaming themselves, yeah we are fighting for custody in court and I’m moving across the country with the kids after I win.
You might think it’s bad that I’ve severely limited the children’s contact with their father, the only father they’ll ever have, but you know, he had those inappropriate contento mags in the closet. And he visited some websites. So you know, his sins.”
Anybody of good moral sense would laugh that woman out of the room.
Why are you holding women entirely responsible for the sins of their husbands?
Here’s where I think you’re making a mistake, because
the choice to divorce isn’t the husbands choice, it’s the wife’s choice. Blaming man because they are sinners doesn’t get wives off the hook for their poor choice to divorce.
When people defend women over these bad choices, they really paint the fairer sex as unaccountable little wildfires. As though women aren’t responsible for their own choices, but ladies are the first to know that that’s not true.
@Maria Billingsley may have similar thoughts to you on this topic,
@Rene Loup. So I’d like to ask you both and get your input, just to see how far this idea of
“adultery” or inappropriate content or inappropriate contenteia goes.
If a woman wanted to divorce her husband because he had a nude girlie pen, would that be okay or justified or right somehow in the eyes of God and good Christian people?
I was worried we’d move into having a very male tone to the topic points.
