Why would the world "mourn" when they see Son of Man return?

Christians should be. Non-Christians will realize that he is coming to dominate, and those who have read the Scriptures and rejected him previously will realize that judgment is coming with him.

aries_113 said:

Why does Mathew 24:30 say all the peoples of the earth will "mourn" when Jesus returns?

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

Why would people mourn when they see Jesus return? Shouldn't they be glad/cheering?

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Maybe they'll feel sorry for all their bad things, knowing they should have been different?

His Holiness makes unwashed sins obvious and disintegrates all relative justification. (God doesn't grade on a curve.)

Conviction (unto Salvation) is the lite version of that.

Landon Caeli said:

Maybe they'll feel sorry for all their bad things, knowing they should have been different?

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When Jesus comes the ugly truth of peoples misdeeds will be clearly visible and no longer be hidden. This will have all the people of the world mourn the One they have pierced with their loveless transgressions.

Revelation 1:7
“Look, he is coming with the clouds,”
and “every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him”;
and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”
So shall it be! Amen."

Hi aries,

My understanding, is that when the Scriptures speak of the 'world', it is speaking of those who are in the world as unbelievers. They are going to mourn. They're going to suddenly know with perfect clarity that they were wrong and it's too late.

In John 15:19 Jesus says this concerning the 'world': If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.

So, Jesus apparently doesn't see those who belong to him as being a part of the 'world'. I believe that when the Scriptures tell us that the whole world will mourn...it is using the same definition of 'world' that Jesus was using in the above passage.

God bless,
Ted

aries_113 said:

Why does Mathew 24:30 say all the peoples of the earth will "mourn" when Jesus returns?

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

Why would people mourn when they see Jesus return? Shouldn't they be glad/cheering?

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Isaiah 6:1-7

1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.

3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.

5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.

Revelation 6:16-17

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

aries_113 said:

And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven

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You mourn when someone's life ends, don't you?
...Possibly this event coincides with a lot of lives ending?

Actually one of the definitions is
"feel regret or sadness about (the loss or disappearance of something)."

So they may also be mourning the 'free-reign' humanity had before the presence of uncloaked God/Lord. Perhaps they are mourning not only what they have done, and what they did to Him, but also the loss of sovereignty that would occur when the real King returns.

I think there could definitely be a bit a both.

aries_113 said:

Why does Mathew 24:30 say all the peoples of the earth will "mourn" when Jesus returns?

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

Why would people mourn when they see Jesus return? Shouldn't they be glad/cheering?

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As a partial Preterist, I understand this to be the destruction of Jerusalem in
AD 70. The beginning of the chapter indicates this. The world certainly mourned. Blessings.

There will be many reasons why people will mourn. Most will morn because they realize they missed the boat.

aries_113 said:

Why does Mathew 24:30 say all the peoples of the earth will "mourn" when Jesus returns

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Because most of the world will have worshipped the fake Christ believing him to have been the real one. People will be praying for mountains to fall on them in their shame.

Remember...Paul states people with be thinking "peace and safety" and then, bam, God's wrath and the true Christ returns. Why would the world be thinking peace and safety? Because they believe the Savior has returned. Daniel also aludes to this. This is also why Christ says he comes at an hour most do not expect. Because many people (including some Christians who have fallen away in this belief) will think he has already returned. That's the ultimate deception that's going to be coming upon the entire world.

aries_113 said:

Why does Mathew 24:30 say all the peoples of the earth will "mourn" when Jesus returns?

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

Why would people mourn when they see Jesus return? Shouldn't they be glad/cheering?

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There's a big problem. Jesus had already returned several years earlier. He said he was Jesus. He did miracles. Then he forced the entire world to convert to Islam, or they get to die. Christians know this fake Jesus as the false prophet. This Jesus is working with the Islamic Mahdi, aka Antichrist. Source: Islamic prophecy.

When the real Jesus comes out of the clouds, Christians who converted to Islam will realize they had been fooled by the fake Jesus. And they will know that they are in serious trouble. Everybody else will know that the party is over.

Islam is a demonic religion. The Mahdi is a leader of demons who play a premier role in spreading Islam around the world. The fake Jesus is likely a demon too.

miamited said:

Hi aries,

My understanding, is that when the Scriptures speak of the 'world', it is speaking of those who are in the world as unbelievers. They are going to mourn. They're going to suddenly know with perfect clarity that they were wrong and it's too late.

In John 15:19 Jesus says this concerning the 'world': If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.

So, Jesus apparently doesn't see those who belong to him as being a part of the 'world'. I believe that when the Scriptures tell us that the whole world will mourn...it is using the same definition of 'world' that Jesus was using in the above passage.

God bless,
Ted

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I agree that many who took the mark of the beast will be mourning but so too will be many others including Jews. Isaiah 61 shows what is accomplished in the day of vengeance of our God.
To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD,
And the day of vengeance of our God;
To comfort all who mourn,
3 To console those who mourn in Zion,
To give them beauty for ashes,
The oil of joy for mourning,
The garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness;
That they may be called trees of righteousness,
The planting of the LORD, that He may be glorified.”

Zech 12 talks about this too and it notes Meggido aka Armageddon on the day they see the one who was pierced. Jesus returns as king of kings and Lord of Lords but he will still have the scars as the lamb who was slain. This is amazing as Jesus comes when Israel is done and has no hope and it is Jesus who saves them. This wave of regret and awakening for Israel will be very much like when Joseph was revealed to his brothers. An amazing glorious purpose achieved through the fire of the tribulation.

10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. 11 In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo.[fn] 12 And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; 13 the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; 14 all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves.

aries_113 said:

Why does Mathew 24:30 say all the peoples of the earth will "mourn" when Jesus returns?

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

Why would people mourn when they see Jesus return? Shouldn't they be glad/cheering?

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It's only talking about unbelievers mourning because they will realize it is too late to repent at that point because Christ is going to take vengeance on them when He returns (2 Thess 1:7-10). The following passage portrays how those unbelievers will be feeling when they realize it's too late for them:

Revelation 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

People will rather have mountains and rocks fall on them and crush them than face "the wrath of the Lamb". That is why they will mourn.

Spiritual Jew said:

People will rather have mountains and rocks fall on them and crush them than face "the wrath of the Lamb". That is why they will mourn.

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Heh. Let He Who is Without Sin throw the first stone.

20 Then every island fled, and no mountain could be found.
21 And great hailstones weighing almost a hundred pounds each rained down on them from above.
And men cursed God for the plague of hail, because it was so horrendous.

aries_113 said:

Why does Mathew 24:30 say all the peoples of the earth will "mourn" when Jesus returns?

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

Why would people mourn when they see Jesus return? Shouldn't they be glad/cheering?

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They mourn when they see the sign of His coming in heaven, or sometime thereafter, but perhaps years before His return.

Jeffwhosoever said:

Hundreds of millions will come to faith during the tribulation and are the number John sees in heaven which one could count, and since later we know John hears the number of 200 million, it is straightforward to deduce that the number exceeds 200 million by a substantial margin, so perhaps 1 billion are saved during the time of tribulation's 7 years thought they will pay a heavy price and I pity those who have to live through that time, but it is still far superior to spending eternity in hell.

In fact, the population of the earth has only reached the point where the numbers John sees in Heaven in Revelation have become possible. Same with the Army that fights with numbers like the grains of sand on the sea. Now with over 7 billion alive today John's numbers have viable realization without resorting to calling such numbers symbolic because in AD 70 such numbers were not possible.

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I’m just curious here, would you say the fullness of the Gentiles comes in during the tribulation and then after the tribulation is over Israel’s partial blind will be lifted?

aries_113 said:

Why does Mathew 24:30 say all the peoples of the earth will "mourn" when Jesus returns?

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

Why would people mourn when they see Jesus return? Shouldn't they be glad/cheering?

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Because they see how easily they could have believed and how crucially they should have been?