JESUS and the APOSTLES OBEYED GOD'S LAW and the SABBATH!

Studyman said:

Yes,

"we are following the Law and Prophets in obedience when we believe God's Words enough to "do them", and come to the Christ, our New High Priest, for these things they used to go to a Levite for."

As it is written.

Rev. 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

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Right. And I'm glad you put "do them" in quotes, because the physical actions that we take are different from what is specified in the letters of that particular law.

Leaf473 said:

Right. And I'm glad you put "do them" in quotes, because the physical actions that we take are different from what is specified in the letters of that particular law.

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In some cases this can be true. Like muzzling the Oxen that treadeth out the grain. Or as Jesus commanded "Eating His Flesh and Drinking His Blood". These are requirements for the people of God, but more Spiritual in nature than Hating, or working, or bearing a grudge, or killing.

But Many of God's instruction, created for our Sake's no doubt, are exactly as the "Letter" dictates.

For instance, "Thou shall not Kill", or hating a brother in our heart or stealing or bear false witness, or Keeping God's Sabbath Holy, or honoring God in His definition of clean and unclean. These are Commands that even a child can understand and follow, and are easy to "Yield our selves to" even as Paul instructs.

As the humbled, Faithful child of God grows, so does his knowledge, even as the Author of our Faith shows us..

Luke 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

The point being, the Laws of God were never abolished as the serpent in the garden convinced Eve. God never lied to His People. He never gave them instructions impossible to follow or understand. It simply requires belief, AKA "Faith", in the God who created them for us.

And HE gave us the examples for our admonition, of those who HE rescued from the deception and bondage of Egypt, who, like modern religions today, didn't believe in the Word's of the God of the Bible. As HE Said.

Duet. 32:18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.

19 And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.

20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

Paul said these were written for our (New Covenant Believers) examples, "to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted."

This is why Jesus said the Law and Prophets would not Pass. They were actually written for us. Here! Now!, more than ever.

Just know that if you turn to the God of Abraham in obedience, as Jesus instructs, the mainstream religions of the land with not like you, just as they didn't like the Children of God in Jesus' time.

Studyman said:

In some cases this can be true.

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The thing I was getting at at this time was that at least in some cases
we obey a law and "do" it
without taking the specific actions described in the letter of that law.

Like muzzling the Oxen that treadeth out the grain. Or as Jesus commanded "Eating His Flesh and Drinking His Blood". These are requirements for the people of God, but more Spiritual in nature than Hating, or working, or bearing a grudge, or killing.

But Many of God's instruction, created for our Sake's no doubt, are exactly as the "Letter" dictates.

For instance, "Thou shall not Kill", or hating a brother in our heart or stealing or bear false witness, or Keeping God's Sabbath Holy, or honoring God in His definition of clean and unclean. These are Commands that even a child can understand and follow, and are easy to "Yield our selves to" even as Paul instructs.

As the humbled, Faithful child of God grows, so does his knowledge, even as the Author of our Faith shows us..

Luke 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

The point being, the Laws of God were never abolished as the serpent in the garden convinced Eve. God never lied to His People. He never gave them instructions impossible to follow or understand. It simply requires belief, AKA "Faith", in the God who created them for us.

And HE gave us the examples for our admonition, of those who HE rescued from the deception and bondage of Egypt, who, like modern religions today, didn't believe in the Word's of the God of the Bible. As HE Said.

Duet. 32:18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.

19 And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.

20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

Paul said these were written for our (New Covenant Believers) examples, "to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted."

This is why Jesus said the Law and Prophets would not Pass. They were actually written for us. Here! Now!, more than ever.

Just know that if you turn to the God of Abraham in obedience, as Jesus instructs, the mainstream religions of the land with not like you, just as they didn't like the Children of God in Jesus' time.

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We probably disagree about which laws we are to take physical action.

I'm happy to continue that discussion,
but I think it would be helpful if you were to post a list of which laws you feel we were to perform physically.
Or which what laws we were not to perform physically, that would work too.

That's actually why I first posted on this thread, it was to ask @LoveGodsWord if he had such a list.

Leaf473 said:

The thing I was getting at at this time was that at least in some cases
we obey a law and "do" it
without taking the specific actions described in the letter of that law.

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First we needed to discern between what was true and what is false regarding Jesus' Word's in Matt. 5. We now know that God's Laws, given in the Law and Prophets, are still valid today. There are religious men, who come in Jesus Name, as Prophesied, who preach that Jesus came to Abolish God's Laws that Paul said were "Written for our sake's no doubt". Now that we know this is a false teaching, we can move on to discern God's Truth regarding the meaning and intent of His Instructions that HE gave for our good.

We probably disagree about which laws we are to take physical action.

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I can imagine you probably don't have a problem with God's Law as it pertains to the physical action of restraining your body when it come to taking something that doesn't belong to you. Or physically keeping your anger and temper in check so as not to hate your brother, or Kill him. I'm sure you are fine with the Physical Commandment not to have sex with animals, or to look on the nakedness of your mother, or brothers wife. Most religious men seem perfectly able, and willing, to "submit" to these Laws of God.

Most religious men have accepted God's "physical" instruction in these matters.

My guess is that your problem with God's physical instruction is mostly concerning the Command to restrain your body from doing what it does 6 days a week, on the Sabbath of God. Like work for money, or party, or do your own thing..

This is the Commandment God gave as a Test for His People "To see if they would walk in MY Law or not".

It has always been an easy Commandment to keep and understand, but men, especially religious men, have historically rejected it. To the Point of creating their own sabbaths in God's Name. It's a fascinating study.

I'm happy to continue that discussion,
but I think it would be helpful if you were to post a list of which laws you feel we were to perform physically.
Or which what laws we were not to perform physically, that would work too.

That's actually why I first posted on this thread, it was to ask @LoveGodsWord if he had such a list.

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I am happy and willing to examine and discuss Scriptures with you. But we are in the New Covenant.

"And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:"

You have the Oracles of God in your own Home. As God says here, you don't need some preacher from a religion of this world to teach you. If you Love God, and are truly sorry for rejecting His Words, then just show Him. Seek to hear His instructions, then do them.

Do you need someone to "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and HIS Righteousness" for you? This will expose to you where your heart really is. If a man just wants to hear smooth things and be socially accepted by this religious franchise, or that, then they will "Go to the Priest" of a certain religion and follow his instruction. But if they truly seek from their heart to "Prove what is that perfect, acceptable Will of God, then they will go to the Father, and Worship Him, for HE seeks such people, at least according to Jesus.

I don't believe this is even possible without His Sabbath that Jesus said was "Made for man". And for me, why would I want to find another Path anyway? If God's instructions were good enough for His Son, and Every Example of Faith in the Bible, then they are most certainly good enough for me.

My advice to my Brother is to ignore all the "other voices" out there, get the Oracles of God, and commune with Him One on one. As the Scriptures teach.

Rom. 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 And be not conformed to this worldor it's religions) but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Then, after you have discerned between God's truth and religious traditions of men.

Phil. 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Studyman said:

First we needed to discern between what was true and what is false regarding Jesus' Word's in Matt. 5. We now know that God's Laws, given in the Law and Prophets, are still valid today. There are religious men, who come in Jesus Name, as Prophesied, who preach that Jesus came to Abolish God's Laws that Paul said were "Written for our sake's no doubt". Now that we know this is a false teaching, we can move on to discern God's Truth regarding the meaning and intent of His Instructions that HE gave for our good.

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Absolutely! We're on the same page there.

I can imagine you probably don't have a problem with God's Law as it pertains to the physical action of restraining your body when it come to taking something that doesn't belong to you. Or physically keeping your anger and temper in check so as not to hate your brother, or Kill him. I'm sure you are fine with the Physical Commandment not to have sex with animals, or to look on the nakedness of your mother, or brothers wife. Most religious men seem perfectly able, and willing, to "submit" to these Laws of God.

Most religious men have accepted God's "physical" instruction in these matters.

My guess is that your problem with God's physical instruction is mostly concerning the Command to restrain your body from doing what it does 6 days a week, on the Sabbath of God. Like work for money, or party, or do your own thing..

This is the Commandment God gave as a Test for His People "To see if they would walk in MY Law or not".

It has always been an easy Commandment to keep and understand, but men, especially religious men, have historically rejected it. To the Point of creating their own sabbaths in God's Name. It's a fascinating study.



I am happy and willing to examine and discuss Scriptures with you. But we are in the New Covenant.

"And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:"

You have the Oracles of God in your own Home. As God says here, you don't need some preacher from a religion of this world to teach you.

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I agree. I'm not asking you to teach me, I'm offering to have a discussion with you (or anyone) on the subject.

Please let me know if you would like that.

If you Love God, and are truly sorry for rejecting His Words, then just show Him. Seek to hear His instructions, then do them.

Do you need someone to "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and HIS Righteousness" for you? This will expose to you where your heart really is. If a man just wants to hear smooth things and be socially accepted by this religious franchise, or that, then they will "Go to the Priest" of a certain religion and follow his instruction. But if they truly seek from their heart to "Prove what is that perfect, acceptable Will of God, then they will go to the Father, and Worship Him, for HE seeks such people, at least according to Jesus.

I don't believe this is even possible without His Sabbath that Jesus said was "Made for man". And for me, why would I want to find another Path anyway? If God's instructions were good enough for His Son, and Every Example of Faith in the Bible, then they are most certainly good enough for me.

My advice to my Brother is to ignore all the "other voices" out there, get the Oracles of God, and commune with Him One on one. As the Scriptures teach.

Rom. 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 And be not conformed to this worldor it's religions) but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Then, after you have discerned between God's truth and religious traditions of men.

Phil. 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

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Sounds good!
Again, please let me know how you would like to proceed.

In case anyone is interested I want to discuss the subject of the OP...

=> Jesus and the apostles obeyed God's law and the Sabbath <=

Jesus and the Apostles were all Jews; they observed all the customs and laws, including going to the synagogue or temple on the Sabbath. Did they observe the Sabbath commandment as "law"? Absolutely not!

Jesus healed on the Sabbath and criticized those who wouldn't help others, including animals, on that day. Also, when Jesus' disciples ate grain on the Sabbath, He defended their actions, even explaining that (King) David and his men illegally ate the sacred temple bread.

Leaf473 said:

Absolutely! We're on the same page there.


I agree. I'm not asking you to teach me, I'm offering to have a discussion with you (or anyone) on the subject.

Please let me know if you would like that.

Sounds good!
Again, please let me know how you would like to proceed.

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Well, for me, I like to post scriptures like we did, and then engage in an unbiased, honest discussion about them. A very refreshing, and somewhat rare thing it seems.

Maybe we can discuss "WHY" God created His Sabbath for man?

Studyman said:

Well, for me, I like to post scriptures like we did, and then engage in an unbiased, honest discussion about them. A very refreshing, and somewhat rare thing it seems.

Maybe we can discuss "WHY" God created His Sabbath for man?

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It was unknown in ancient society to have a "day off". Work was a seven-day-per-week necessity, especially if you worked for someone else.

Since it was written that God rested on the seventh day it was required of God's people to also rest (as much as possible!) one day per week. How much can be done on a Sabbath is an endless debate...

Don't forget, Jesus "violated" the Sabbath on several occasions, thereby demonstrating that the Sabbath was made for people's benefit; it wasn't an "ironclad" law.

pescador said:

In case anyone is interested I want to discuss the subject of the OP...

=> Jesus and the apostles obeyed God's law and the Sabbath <=

Jesus and the Apostles were all Jews; they observed all the customs and laws, including going to the synagogue or temple on the Sabbath. Did they observe the Sabbath commandment as "law"? Absolutely not!

Jesus healed on the Sabbath and criticized those who wouldn't help others, including animals, on that day. Also, when Jesus' disciples ate grain on the Sabbath, He defended their actions, even explaining that (King) David and his men illegally ate the sacred temple bread.

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I agree that Jesus and the apostles observed the law (Jesus probably did a better job than the apostles )

I think Jesus demonstrated the idea of binding and loosing in his ministry.
He bound up the law about murder, saying that it included hating.
He loosened the law about the Sabbath, saying that it was lawful to do good on the Sabbath.

Studyman said:

Well, for me, I like to post scriptures like we did, and then engage in an unbiased, honest discussion about them. A very refreshing, and somewhat rare thing it seems.

Maybe we can discuss "WHY" God created His Sabbath for man?

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Sounds great!

I found this verse:

Exodus 23:12 "Six days you shall do your work, and on the seventh day you shall rest, that your ox and your donkey may have rest, and the son of your handmaid, and the alien may be refreshed.

Shall we start there or did you have a passage you wanted to post and discuss?

="pescador, post: 76003940, member: 297292"]It was unknown in ancient society to have a "day off". Work was a seven-day-per-week necessity, especially if you worked for someone else.

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Well it is true that The heathen world, with it's pagan religions that knew of the God of Abraham, but didn't believe HIM, most certainly rejected many of God's instructions that HE created for men's own good. And you are right to shine the Light on the Biblical Truth that the Sabbath, the concept and idea, was not man's at all. But the God of Abraham's idea, creation and Commandment. As God said;

Ez. 20:10 Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt, and brought them into the wilderness.

11 And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.

12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

So for me, it is no surprise that the religions of this world still reject God's Sabbaths.

Since it was written that God rested on the seventh day it was required of God's people to also rest (as much as possible!) one day per week. How much can be done on a Sabbath is an endless debate...

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First, the God of the Bible went to great lengths to define and explain when to honor the Sabbath of the God of the Bible. It was never just some random day of rest as you imply. It is really quite fascinating actually. Religious men of this world don't hate the concept of a day of rest in general. It's just God's instruction as to when this day of rest is to be, and how to observe it, that they rebel against. They have created their own Sabbaths, or "days off", like Christmas, Easter, Good Friday, Halloween, Sunday Sabbath, etc. It's only a debate when it is pointed out that modern "sabbaths" were created by religious men, not the God of the Bible.

Ez. 20:13, But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.

We know EVERY Example of Faith in the Bible honored, and understood God's Sabbaths. Caleb, David, Gideon, Zecharias, Simeon, Anna, the Wise men, of course Jesus, Peter, and after his conversion, Paul. But the Mainstream God of Abraham preaching people of this world, polluted God's sabbath, as it is to this day.

Don't forget, Jesus "violated" the Sabbath on several occasions, thereby demonstrating that the Sabbath was made for people's benefit; it wasn't an "ironclad" law.

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This is simply a lie. Jesus may have violated "YOUR" Sabbath, the Catholic Sabbath, or the Pharisee's Sabbath. But not God's. You are here to justify your rebellion against God's Sabbath. The Mainstream religious preachers of Jesus time also called Jesus a Sinner, even a devil, to justify their rebellion against God's Commandments. Jesus never "violated" God's Sabbath. If you can't justify your religion without making up lies about an innocent man, then maybe it's your religion that should change, and not God.

Leaf473 said:

Sounds great!

I found this verse:

Exodus 23:12 "Six days you shall do your work, and on the seventh day you shall rest, that your ox and your donkey may have rest, and the son of your handmaid, and the alien may be refreshed.

Shall we start there or did you have a passage you wanted to post and discuss?

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No, this is great. But be careful not to cherry pick one verse and isolate it from the rest of the Bible. This is how the devil deceives folks. He disguises itself as an Apostle of Christ, then selectively quotes "some" of God's Word in order to seduce you into rejecting the Commandment of God.

This is how Eve was deceived.

If you honestly want to know the Biblical truth about God's Sabbaths, do a Word Study. Address every paragraph in the entire bible where the "word" Sabbath was used. Lay them all out and study them with a searching heart. If you are only looking for reasons to justify rejecting God's Sabbath, and following the sabbaths of this world, then God will let you. But if you are truly seeking the Truth, then ignore all the noise out there, all the winds of doctrine, and place your Faith in God's Word to guide you.

May I ask, "Of all the Scriptures regarding the Sabbath Commandment, why did you pick this one"?

Leaf473 said:

I agree that Jesus and the apostles observed the law (Jesus probably did a better job than the apostles )

I think Jesus demonstrated the idea of binding and loosing in his ministry.
He bound up the law about murder, saying that it included hating.
He loosened the law about the Sabbath, saying that it was lawful to do good on the Sabbath.

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I hope you don't mind me butting in here, but it was always a LAW of God not to Hate your brother in your heart. The only reason Jesus had to bring it up, is because the Mainstream Preachers of HIS Time had become "partial" in the Law. In other Word's, they taught the Law about Killing, but didn't teach the Law about Hating. Jesus, our New High Priest, taught both.

And it was "Always" Lawful to do Good on God's Sabbath Days. It was always Lawful to walk in fellowship with God on the Sabbath and pick a blackberry or ear of corn along the way.

If the Pharisees had not rejected God's Commandments and "Taught for doctrines the commandments of men", they too, would have known this.

Studyman said:

No, this is great. But be careful not to cherry pick one verse and isolate it from the rest of the Bible.

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Of course! It was just a starting point. Being on a cell phone, I like to keep my posts short.

This is how the devil deceives folks. He disguises itself as an Apostle of Christ, then selectively quotes "some" of God's Word in order to seduce you into rejecting the Commandment of God.

This is how Eve was deceived.

If you honestly want to know the Biblical truth about God's Sabbaths, do a Word Study. Address every paragraph in the entire bible where the "word" Sabbath was used. Lay them all out and study them with a searching heart.

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That's a great idea. Did you want to do that together as a discussion?

If you are only looking for reasons to justify rejecting God's Sabbath, and following the sabbaths of this world, then God will let you. But if you are truly seeking the Truth, then ignore all the noise out there, all the winds of doctrine, and place your Faith in God's Word to guide you.

May I ask, "Of all the Scriptures regarding the Sabbath Commandment, why did you pick this one"?

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When you talked about posting verses about why God created His Sabbath for man, the word "refreshed" came to my mind.

So I did a word search, and the verse I posted was the first verse that came up!
BibleGateway - Keyword Search: Refreshed

Studyman said:

I hope you don't mind me butting in here,...

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Not at all, everyone is always welcome!

...but it was always a LAW of God not to Hate your brother in your heart.

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Well, maybe we see that differently.

I'm not aware of anything in the law that states that hate is always wrong.

I think the psalmist was fully in line with what was stated in Torah when he wrote
Psalm 31:6 I hate those who regard lying vanities, but I trust in the Lord.

Jesus engaged in "binding and loosing" of the law. Or if you prefer, he "clarified" the law, as another poster had described earlier on this thread.

The only reason Jesus had to bring it up, is because the Mainstream Preachers of HIS Time had become "partial" in the Law. In other Word's, they taught the Law about Killing, but didn't teach the Law about Hating. Jesus, our New High Priest, taught both.

And it was "Always" Lawful to do Good on God's Sabbath Days.

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I think that depends on how tightly a person understands
"You shall not do any work in it".

Jesus loosens or clarifies this to mean that you can do good work. Of course as Christians, good work is what we want to do 7 days a week!

It was always Lawful to walk in fellowship with God on the Sabbath and pick a blackberry or ear of corn along the way.

If the Pharisees had not rejected God's Commandments and "Taught for doctrines the commandments of men", they too, would have known this.

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Leaf473 said:

Not at all, everyone is always welcome!


Well, maybe we see that differently.

I'm not aware of anything in the law that states that hate is always wrong.

I think the psalmist was fully in line with what was stated in Torah when he wrote
Psalm 31:6 I hate those who regard lying vanities, but I trust in the Lord.

Jesus engaged in "binding and loosing" of the law. Or if you prefer, he "clarified" the law, as another poster had described earlier on this thread.

I think that depends on how tightly a person understands
"You shall not do any work in it".

Jesus loosens or clarifies this to mean that you can do good work. Of course as Christians, good work is what we want to do 7 days a week!

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Hi Leaf,

I think you misunderstood what I previously stated. My definition of clarified does not mean "loosening the law". The Pharisee's was making the Sabbath something it was not. Jesus never loosened any of God's laws, He came to magnify the law, not change or destroy.

I hope this clears it up!

SabbathBlessings said:

Hi Leaf,

I think you misunderstood what I previously stated. My definition of clarified does not mean "loosening the law". The Pharisee's were making the Sabbath something it was not. Jesus never loosened any of God's laws, He came to magnify the law, not change or destroy.

I hope this clears it up!

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Well, hello again SabbathBlessings!

I know the idea of "loosening" doesn't sit well with many people. That's why I think "clarifying" is just fine.

I think in the past you and I had talked about it this way:
The law said no work on the Sabbath is allowed.
Jesus said good work on the Sabbath is allowed.

What shall we call that? "Clarifying" is fine with me.

Leaf473 said:

Well, hello again SabbathBlessings!

I know the idea of "loosening" doesn't sit well with many people. That's why I think "clarifying" is just fine.

I think in the past you and I had talked about it this way:
The law said no work on the Sabbath is allowed.
Jesus said good work on the Sabbath is allowed.

What shall we call that? "Clarifying" is fine with me.

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There was never a change in the law. It was always lawful to do good on the Sabbath and it was always a sin to work on God's Sabbath. I hope this clarifies the misunderstanding.

SabbathBlessings said:

There was never a change in the law. It was always lawful to do good on the Sabbath and it was always a sin to work on God's Sabbath. I hope this clarifies the misunderstanding.

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Was it always a sin to do work of any kind on God's Sabbath, in your view?

Or do you mean that if you're doing good, that doesn't count as work?

Leaf473 said:

Was it always a sin to do work of any kind on God's Sabbath, in your view?

Or do you mean that if you're doing good, that doesn't count as work?

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My view isn't worth a penny.

This is what God said:

The point of the Sabbath is to keep it holy. Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. It's also a day to be a delight and joy. Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on My holy day And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable, And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words,14 Then you shall delight yourself in the Lord; And I will cause you to ride on the high hills of the earth,

The Pharisee's were making the day the opposite of what God wanted His Sabbath to be about. They were more concerned about with the things you can't do on God's holy Sabbath instead of making it a day about God- holy communion with our Savior. Walking in nature and eating a berry is not work. If they were in the farms spending all day outside picking berries, that is work. I hope you can see the difference.