Quick decision-making is not Biden’s style

wing2000 said:

As did some Republicans (John Kelly for one) and anyone else who has a clue about effective border security.

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How many Republicans in Congress did vote to stop funding of the border wall?

Valletta said:

There were huge increased in virtually every category of government with the exceptions of veterans and Homeland Security.

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So you're upset that the government isn't spending even more money? Got it. I guess the deficit doesn't matter to you?

Valletta said:

This despite the fact that we have a disaster at the border, I've seen the films showing people still crossing contrary to the lie from the Biden administration that the border is closed.

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What "disaster"? It's a disaster because you hate Biden? Because people "still crossing" has been going on long before Trump, during Trump, and will continue after Trump. Your implication that it is only happening now and has never happened is completely wrong.

Valletta said:

It is you have been played, the cartels control the border, and telling the people to "come" increased the numbers of humans for human trafficking at the hands of the cartels. Human trafficking is neither mine nor God's idea of hospitality. The actions by the administration are sick and twisted.

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No, it is you who has been played. Your wild stories about the cartels and human trafficking are complete lies and you're happy to repeat them just to push your political view.

God's idea of hospitality was clear from the verses I've provided to you. Interestingly, you provide a lot of claims with no support, especially not even Biblical support.

If people want to hate immigrants that's their choice but don't make up stories about them being evil people just to push a political agenda that has no actual evidence behind it.

ArmenianJohn said:

So you're upset that the government isn't spending even more money? Got it. I guess the deficit doesn't matter to you?


What "disaster"? It's a disaster because you hate Biden? Because people "still crossing" has been going on long before Trump, during Trump, and will continue after Trump. Your implication that it is only happening now and has never happened is completely wrong.


No, it is you who has been played. Your wild stories about the cartels and human trafficking are complete lies and you're happy to repeat them just to push your political view.

God's idea of hospitality was clear from the verses I've provided to you. Interestingly, you provide a lot of claims with no support, especially not even Biblical support.

If people want to hate immigrants that's their choice but don't make up stories about them being evil people just to push a political agenda that has no actual evidence behind it.

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The Biden administration is brazenly lying to you, the border is not secure. It is NOT hospitality to enable the cartels to traffic more women and children and to enable them to bring massive amounts of drugs into our country. Please do not use the Bible to try and justify these horrible acts.

Albion said:

How many Republicans in Congress did vote to stop funding of the border wall?

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As many as who voted against it, IIRC.

TLK Valentine said:

As many as who voted against it, IIRC.

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We are in the middle of a national disaster. Although immigrants can go to U.S. authorities and be confident that they we be transported to various states , in months we have a number estimated in the six digits who have evaded authorities and illegally entered our nation. How many Chinese agents or Muslim terrorists are included in that group we do not know.

Valletta said:

We are in the middle of a national disaster.

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Actually, we got rid of one last November.

It tried to make a comeback in January, but America prevailed.

Although immigrants can go to U.S. authorities and be confident that they we be transported to various states ,

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Except the authorities in previous administrations were shamefully (and illegally) preventing this.

An asylum seeker must be physically in the country they wish to seek asylum in. Border Patrol was preventing this.

in months we have a number estimated in the six digits who have evaded authorities and illegally entered our nation.

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A number which was already in eight digits even during the previous administration.

How many Chinese agents or Muslim terrorists are included in that group we do not know.

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Considering that Chinese agents and Muslim terrorists are members of organizations with sufficient resources to print up some bogus credentials and board a plane, I'd doubt that number is significant. #worksmarternotharder

Valletta said:

The Biden administration is brazenly lying to you, the border is not secure.

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It's not Biden who's lying to me about this, it's the people who hate Biden that are lying about this.

Valletta said:

It is NOT hospitality to enable the cartels to traffic more women and children and to enable them to bring massive amounts of drugs into our country.

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I'm talking about immigrants, not cartels human traffickers. For some reason you think immigrants are cartels and human traffickers, but they're not. That's just how racists categorize them.

Valletta said:

Please do not use the Bible to try and justify these horrible acts.

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Please use the Bible instead of listening to political bigots to try and justify their horrible hatred. We ought to obey God rather than men. Sorry - not sorry but I will continue to go by God's Word on this issue.

Valletta said:

The Biden administration is brazenly lying to you, the border is not secure.

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The conservative media and conspiracy theorists are lying to you, the border is as secure as it ever has been.

Valletta said:

It is NOT hospitality to enable the cartels to traffic more women and children and to enable them to bring massive amounts of drugs into our country.

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It is NOT hospitality to label immigrants as drug dealers and human traffickers who are seeking refuge from oppression. Stop spreading lies about these human beings.

Valletta said:

Please do not use the Bible to try and justify these horrible acts.

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Please do not attack me for obeying God's Word in your attempt to try to justify your hate towards immigrants.

ArmenianJohn said:

The conservative media and conspiracy theorists are lying to you, the border is as secure as it ever has been.


It is NOT hospitality to label immigrants as drug dealers and human traffickers who are seeking refuge from oppression. Stop spreading lies about these human beings.


Please do not attack me for obeying God's Word in your attempt to try to justify your hate towards immigrants.

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I don't hate immigrants, please quite making such accusations against me. As I said, the cartels are taking advantage of the immigrants, and the cartels are being enabled by the Biden administration policies. The Biden administration has claimed the border is secure, yet I have seen recordings of people pouring over the border. Joe and Kamala could travel to the border and bring the press with them and you could see for yourself if you think the recordings are fake.

TLK Valentine said:

Actually, we got rid of one last November.

It tried to make a comeback in January, but America prevailed.



Except the authorities in previous administrations were shamefully (and illegally) preventing this.

An asylum seeker must be physically in the country they wish to seek asylum in. Border Patrol was preventing this.



A number which was already in eight digits even during the previous administration.



Considering that Chinese agents and Muslim terrorists are members of organizations with sufficient resources to print up some bogus credentials and board a plane, I'd doubt that number is significant. #worksmarternotharder

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The reason countries have borders is first of all for existence, borders allow the checking of individuals who wish to enter a country. The policy of checking them out before entering instead of letting everyone in and telling them to report back in months allows the identification of MS-13 and other gang and cartel members and those convicted of sexual offenses so they can be sent back to their home countries.

Valletta said:

I don't hate immigrants, please quite making such accusations against me.

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You are repeating over and over that immigrants are drug cartels that and human trafficking. You can say "I don't hate immigrants" all you want but when you state that they are drug cartels and human trafficking participants you show what you really think.

Valletta said:

As I said, the cartels are taking advantage of the immigrants, and the cartels are being enabled by the Biden administration policies.

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Yes, another thing you said, but you are repeating a lie. You have no evidence for this. You also are making the case that every (or almost every) immigrant coming in at the Mexican border is part of this and that is also a lie. And clearly you are doing this so that you can blame "Biden administration policies" because your outrage is political in nature rather than humanitarian.

Valletta said:

The Biden administration has claimed the border is secure, yet I have seen recordings of people pouring over the border. Joe and Kamala could travel to the border and bring the press with them and you could see for yourself if you think the recordings are fake.

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Yes, you "have seen recordings". So have I, from before Biden was president. Nothing new there. The border has always been closed but people have always crossed it outside of legal entry points. So this is not something happening just under the Biden administration. But presenting it as specifically a "Biden administration" phenomenon is just another lie in order to bolster the other lies.

And I don't know why you're obsessed with President Biden and Vice-president Harris traveling to the border. Do you think if they do that they can catch the drug cartels and their human trafficking victims that are pouring in over the border? LOL As for the press - what's stopping them from going? Why isn't Fox or OAN going and revealing this chaotic open border with drug cartels trucking in dope and containers of human slaves? I know what's stopping them - the fact that none of that is actually happening.

Come on, man!

ArmenianJohn said:

m talking about immigrants, not cartels human traffickers. For some reason you think immigrants are cartels and human traffickers, but they're not. That's just how racists categorize them.

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Notice how the hate always comes first, and the denial and rationalization neck-and-neck right behind it?

TLK Valentine said:

Notice how the hate always comes first, and the denial and rationalization neck-and-neck right behind it?

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Yeah, the hate flows freely and quickly and then the denial and rationalization ride in on its tails in a clean-up/cover-your-butt effort (which is in vain).

ArmenianJohn said:

Yeah, the hate flows freely and quickly and then the denial and rationalization ride in on its tails in a clean-up/cover-your-butt effort (which is in vain).

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This is asking for this person to recognize subtlety and nuance (immigrant/undocumented (illegal)immigrant).

Populists have trouble seeing how anything (idea, concept, political principle), has more than two sides. And somehow they always find themselves on the “correct” side, funny that...life’s a lot simpler when “my side good/sane, their side bad/crazy”.

Valletta said:

Please do not use the Bible to try and justify these horrible acts.

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ArmenianJohn said:

Yeah, the hate flows freely and quickly and then the denial and rationalization ride in on its tails in a clean-up/cover-your-butt effort (which is in vain).

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The fact that they come together is very telling. "I didn't say that, but if I had, I'd be right."