Florida governor signs bill barring social media companies from blocking political candidates

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A) There are examples of that, per one my my previous posts, where the Ayatollah said "Israel is a malignant cancerous tumor on the region and needs to be eradicated"...it's been reported thousands of times (so it's not as if the Twitter mods are totally unaware and it slipped through an algorithm), it's still up on the platform as we speak.

Yes, as I stated, you are trying to present anecdotal "evidence." As pointed out, there are millions of posts daily on Twitter. And, to point out an exception made for the Ayatollah -- a political leader -- I could point to hundreds of rules violations by President Trump, prior to his losing the election. Yes, Pres. Trump was ultimately banned, but only after he was about to give up his office.

B) When a platform establishes themselves to the point where they become the new de facto "public" square, and then they, as a "private" entity start ramping up enforcement of rules that are definitely slanted toward one particular ideology, that is, by default, suppression.

This sounds like "special pleading." As was pointed out, should be discriminate against all companies if they become too large?

Saying "well the rules are the same for everyone" is sort of a hollow and disingenuous rebuttal when the rules are tailored to boxing out one particular set of viewpoints on certain key issues.

And what rules are "boxing out one particular set of viewpoints?" It is odd, I hear that same claim made by some members here on Christian Forums, when the actual truth appears to be that they can't debate a point without insulting the person they are debating. As a general rule, it is the insults (or other violation of the rules) that get them in trouble, not their positions on a particular topic. From what I can find, the same holds true on social media.


For instance, back before we had marriage equality, what would your response be to a staunch conservative who was trying to justify the infringement on gay people by saying "Hey, the rules are the same for everyone, a gay guy has the same right to marry a woman that a straight guy does...so there's no issue here"?

Odd, Christian Forums has essentially had those rules for the years (getting close to two decades) that I've been posting (on and off) on this site. While your argument is stupid, with similar logic struck down by the Supreme Court over 50 years ago (Loving v Virginia) -- there are no similar rules on social media. In fact, people make stupid arguments all the time on social media (and I have conservative friends that post some of those stupid things to this day).

Even though for the previous marriage laws, on paper, it was the same text everyone had to abide by, it clearly wasn't the "same rules" (in terms of effect) because it resulted in one group of people getting to marry someone who was of the sex they were attracted to, and another group not being able to.

But, again, you can't point to "different rules;" at least other than the "special rules" for leaders of their respective countries. If you can find "different rules" then feel free to sue that social media site -- as that would be a valid lawsuit. For some reason, though, no one seems to be able to create a case for that type of lawsuit; instead they inevitably fall back on "my free speech rights were violated" because I can't post QAnon falsehoods or make threats.
 
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So, then based on your sentiments here, you're opposed to measures aimed at promoting net neutrality? That situation/debate isn't all that different from the one we're discussing here.

The public's desire for internet access and information at their fingertips is what made the various ISPs as powerful as they are...therefore, their power is the result of the public demand, yes?

If someone objects to that, they can just go build their own internet and start their own ISP then, correct? Or would you be willing to admit it may just be a little more complicated than that once the major players in the sector have already cemented themselves in place?

There are different types of controls that a government can enforce, not all controls are draconian.

There are controls that ensure access, and controls that restrict access.

Applying the sarcastic tone of "no no no, it's far too dangerous to trust to the public" flies in the face of logic and positions that many left-leaning folks, themselves, have espoused about a variety of other large private entities that have elevated themselves to a point where their product/service has been deeply ingrained in society.




Again, terms of service (as issued by a private, but powerful, entity) once they've already cemented themselves a quasi societal establishment can manifest themselves in ways that are very one-sided.

Would your recommendation on the situation be the same if it was a case where Google, Facebook, AWS, and Twitter were all conservative leaning companies (that controlled a vast majority of the market share as those organizations do now), and established terms of service prohibiting promotion of UBI, Universal Healthcare, Gun control, Abortion rights, or LGBT rights? I think we could both agree that would put a real damper on any Democrat trying to reach a large number of people and heavily skew the national political conversation in one direction.

Your entire argument seems to be based on one flawed premise: that Facebook is a public utility and should be regulated as such. It is not.

The Internet is a public utility and should be regulated... the corporations that provide access access to the internet must do so fairly and neutrally.

Facebook is simply one private company that uses the Internet to deliver its product.
 
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Bravo Governor DeSantis!

He was correct on covid and the draconian restrictions and he is right on censorship.
How is this censorship?

Anybody can make any claim they want. The fact that particular private companies refuse to print something is not censorship.

Is it censorship that this website (christianforum.com) does not permit people to use swear words?

I will be interested in your answer.
 
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How is this censorship?

Anybody can make any claim they want. The fact that particular private companies refuse to print something is not censorship.

Is it censorship that this website (christianforum.com) does not permit people to use swear words?

I will be interested in your answer.

Here it is:

When a company that has essentially a monopoly in its sector bans members of only one political party, that is censorship.

Unless of course you can cite what Democratic politicians have been banned.

mind you members of recognized terrorist organizations are still on several of these platforms.
 
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When a company that has essentially a monopoly in its sector bans members of only one political party, that is censorship.
You may have a point, I will think and investigate further.
 
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Is it censorship that this website (christianforum.com) does not permit people to use swear words?

If CF operated like big tech and banned only one group for using swear words, but allowed others to. Yes. That would be censorship.
 
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Here it is:

When a company that has essentially a monopoly in its sector bans members of only one political party, that is censorship.

Unless of course you can cite what Democratic politicians have been banned.

mind you members of recognized terrorist organizations are still on several of these platforms.
When a company has essentially a monopoly in its sector it is subject to existing anti-trust laws and regulations. This means that there is legal remedy available.

If they have essentially a monopoly then federal prosecutors could (and would jump at the opportunity to) prosecute the company and propose increased regulation or even the break-up of the monopoly. When Trump was president, his Attorney General could have initiated this.

So you're saying that a monopoly (essentially) existed the entire time Trump was in office and his administration was so inept that they did nothing about it, do I have that right? Or is it possible that they really didn't have a case because Twitter and Facebook don't have "essentially a monopoly" on social media?

(BONUS PRO TIP: when TWO companies dominate a sector it cannot be a "monopoly" as that word comes from "mono" meaning "one" - at best, it would be a duopoly; it helps to use correct terms so that your viewpoint can be considered seriously by those you're trying to convince).

So it sounds like your gripe is once again with Trump and the conservatives/Republicans who permit the gross injustices that you perceive to continue. Or maybe, just maybe, the "monopoly" concept is being imagined as a result of wishful thinking by you and another conservative poster (and maybe a few more) in this forum?

I mean, either there's no actual issue or it's another foul-up by the Trump administration, just like their ineptitude at preventing voter fraud which their own people and they themselves are still alleging. Either way, the fault is on the side of the conservatives.
 
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You may have a point, I will think and investigate further.
I read through the thread and, for the first time in a while, I can at least see a legitimate argument from "the right" on this one. To save everyone's time (who might be interested in my reasoning), I find That Rob Guy's arguments to be the most compelling and so I am inclined to disagree with the social media companies on this one. Having said that, I see some pretty good arguments in response to That Rob Guy. On balance, though, and not being motivated to spend the time to really think this through, I think (for now at least) that the stronger argument is with the opponents of the intent of these social media companies.
 
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This sounds like "special pleading." As was pointed out, should be discriminate against all companies if they become too large?

We already do... (in several other instances)

And have done so in the past off and on with various private entities when they control enough of the market share and become the de facto outlet for something that's thought of as a public service or function.

The "State Actor" concept, which was covered by the supreme court in the 1940's, and was defined as A) an entity, while technically "private", performing a "public function".
B) an entity performing a private function, but with coercion or influence with regard to how the function is performed.

Facebook and Twitter check both boxes.

Facebook and Twitter both serve as major vehicles for constituents to connect with politicians and candidates, serves as a way people get their polling locations, etc...

And government has coerced and influenced them with regards to company-specific policies. One high profile instance of that was when Elizabeth Warren asked Facebook to change their internal policies to prevent dissemination of climate misinformation.

“We asked Facebook leadership to close the loopholes that let climate disinformation spread on their platforms,” Senators Elizabeth Warren, Tom Carper, Sheldon Whitehouse, and Brian Schatz said in a statement. “The future of our planet is at stake, and there should be no company too big, too powerful, and too opaque to be held accountable for its role in the climate crisis. Facebook is no exception.”

If "it's just a private entity, they make the rules, and everyone agrees to the rules when signing up" were the end-all argument, then Elizabeth Warren would've simply said "If you don't like that Facebook is allowing climate misinformation, then you just need to go build your own version of Facebook that doesn't"

And what rules are "boxing out one particular set of viewpoints?" It is odd, I hear that same claim made by some members here on Christian Forums, when the actual truth appears to be that they can't debate a point without insulting the person they are debating. As a general rule, it is the insults (or other violation of the rules) that get them in trouble, not their positions on a particular topic. From what I can find, the same holds true on social media.

As noted before, misgendering policies are one such example...

Odd, Christian Forums has essentially had those rules for the years (getting close to two decades) that I've been posting (on and off) on this site. While your argument is stupid, with similar logic struck down by the Supreme Court over 50 years ago (Loving v Virginia) -- there are no similar rules on social media. In fact, people make stupid arguments all the time on social media (and I have conservative friends that post some of those stupid things to this day).

I don't think my argument is stupid...you're acknowledging that people who made the disingenuous faux fairness (IE: everyone has to abide by the same set of rules, so what's the problem?) claim to try to suppress certain type so of marriage were making stupid arguments. I'm making an argument that shoots down the faux fairness justification. Both sides of that coin can't be stupid.

Unless you're of the position that "it's justifiable when it reinforces the things I like, but bad when it allows the things I don't"? I would hope not, because that would be a blatant double standard.

To the other part...
Christian Forums isn't Twitter, there are plenty of other options out in the market place for this particular niche. If CF became so large that there were no close second in that space, and CF became one of the primary vehicles for politicians and candidates to connect with their people (to the point where it could have election impacts), then it'd be a different story.

The very fact that people acknowledged (and expressed concern over) disinformation campaigns on Facebook and Twitter, and senators called Mark Z and Jack D up to capitol hill over the matter shows that they're acknowledging that there's something special about Facebook and Twitter (with regards to their reach and influence) that goes well beyond what other social media outlets can tout.


But, again, you can't point to "different rules;" at least other than the "special rules" for leaders of their respective countries. If you can find "different rules" then feel free to sue that social media site -- as that would be a valid lawsuit. For some reason, though, no one seems to be able to create a case for that type of lawsuit; instead they inevitably fall back on "my free speech rights were violated" because I can't post QAnon falsehoods or make threats.

Again, as I mentioned before, it's not that the "rules", on paper, are any different, it's that rules, in effect, (while remaining the same across the board) can be constructed in such a way that they negatively and disproportionately impact one particular group.

The example I used before was Voter ID laws... they're the same across the board for everyone, yet, it's very obvious that the rules themselves are being pushed in efforts to disenfranchise certain group of voters.
 
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Your entire argument seems to be based on one flawed premise: that Facebook is a public utility and should be regulated as such. It is not.

The Internet is a public utility and should be regulated... the corporations that provide access access to the internet must do so fairly and neutrally.

Facebook is simply one private company that uses the Internet to deliver its product.

Based on the Supreme Court ruling concerning "State Actors", I think they are subject to a certain measure of neutrality.

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A) an entity, while technically "private", performing a "public function".
B) an entity performing a private function, but with coercion or influence with regard to how the function is performed.

Facebook and Twitter check both boxes.

Facebook and Twitter both serve as major vehicles for constituents to connect with politicians and candidates, serves as a way people get their polling locations, etc...

And government has coerced and influenced them with regards to company-specific policies. One high profile instance of that was when Elizabeth Warren asked Facebook to change their internal policies to prevent dissemination of climate misinformation.

As another example:
Facebook became one of the primary tools people used to get their polling location and times, sending out voting reminders, and offer tools to allow you to look up your voter registration to make sure it was accurate.

If they altered their algorithm to only send voting reminders and provide accurate information to one particular subset of users (that they happened to agree with), but gave no reminders and or inaccurate information to another group (that didn't happen to agree with the).

That would be a major issue, yes?

Or, would you still take the stance "They're a private social media website, they don't have to be fair if they don't want to, everyone knew the deal when the signed up"?
 
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So Twitter has to be treated differently just because it's big? What if CF were to become as big as Twitter, would it have to change things up, too?

Yes.

Double yes if they start serving a public function like allowing people to check their voter registrations, sending out voting reminders, and telling people where their polling locations are (like Facebook does)
Launching The Largest Voting Information Effort in US History - About Facebook

As I understand it, the policy just people from deliberately referring to someone outside of their chosen pronoun or original name. It doesn't stop you from arguing against trans right. For instance, I direct you the Family Research Council's page, which is still up, running, and unashamedly transphobic.

FRC is an organization with 80 employees and a yearly budget that's less than the ad revenue that FB makes by January 4th every year, and they're an "activist/lobbying" organization, they're not purporting to be a platform. Nor are they entering into government partnerships, nor are they entering into arrangements with local health departments to help people get vaccinated, etc...

They're not really in the same ball park in terms of size or function. (Although, It'd be nice to see the FRC go away IMO, but that's a problem for the market to solve)

It's only 'one of a kind' because it's so big. Functionally, Parler isn't all that different from Twitter.

...I don't recall the owner of Parler being called up to capitol hill multiple times by the Senate for high profile hearings like Mark and Jack. There's a reason for that. They're not big enough to sway elections. Twitter and Facebook are. Which is precisely why many legislators were insistent that they ramp up efforts to prevent misinformation on various topics.
 
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We already do... (in several other instances)

And have done so in the past off and on with various private entities when they control enough of the market share and become the de facto outlet for something that's thought of as a public service or function.

The "State Actor" concept, which was covered by the supreme court in the 1940's, and was defined as A) an entity, while technically "private", performing a "public function".
B) an entity performing a private function, but with coercion or influence with regard to how the function is performed.

Facebook and Twitter check both boxes.

Facebook and Twitter both serve as major vehicles for constituents to connect with politicians and candidates, serves as a way people get their polling locations, etc...

And government has coerced and influenced them with regards to company-specific policies. One high profile instance of that was when Elizabeth Warren asked Facebook to change their internal policies to prevent dissemination of climate misinformation.

The Supreme Court disagrees with you here, as they have ruled that social media sites are not "state actors."

Also, if we use your logic, almost any newspaper would be a "state actor" as they used to provide the information about voting that social media now provides. Yet no one is going to claim the New York Times, the Washington Post, or any other newspaper is a "state actor" -- despite being the traditional "political speech forum" that you are claiming is being replaced by social media.

The key point here, typically to be a "state actor" they actually have to be working for the government, or at least providing a function that the government typically provides. So, for example, a private prison is a state actor. To get back to the Supreme Court case you were talking about, a sidewalk on private property -- since it is filling the need of public right of ways -- is something of a "state actor." Though, to be clear, while the sidewalk is considered a "state actor," the business is not; they merely have to provide public access (including protests) on the sidewalks on their property.

Merely providing voter information is not, by itself, a "government activity." If they were providing a polling place, the part of the business that was a polling place would be a "state actor." Providing a public service, like helping people find where to vote, is considered a public service, not an action of the state. Kind of like selling advertising is a "service" but does not mean the forum (newspaper, social media, etc) is endorsing or part of the business they are advertising.

“We asked Facebook leadership to close the loopholes that let climate disinformation spread on their platforms,” Senators Elizabeth Warren, Tom Carper, Sheldon Whitehouse, and Brian Schatz said in a statement. “The future of our planet is at stake, and there should be no company too big, too powerful, and too opaque to be held accountable for its role in the climate crisis. Facebook is no exception.”
If "it's just a private entity, they make the rules, and everyone agrees to the rules when signing up" were the end-all argument, then Elizabeth Warren would've simply said "If you don't like that Facebook is allowing climate misinformation, then you just need to go build your own version of Facebook that doesn't"

No, politicians requesting something of social media does not make that business a "state actor." Businesses that responded to Pres. Trump's calls for building ventilators or masks did not become "state actors" because they started producing masks or ventilators.

Instead, I'd state what Republicans are trying to do to social media is socialism/communism -- by turning them into "state actors" by legislating what their policies are required to be.

As noted before, misgendering policies are one such example...

As pointed out, they are merely telling people to respect what people call themselves -- in essence, "be polite." There is no ban on discussing the topic.



I don't think my argument is stupid...you're acknowledging that people who made the disingenuous faux fairness (IE: everyone has to abide by the same set of rules, so what's the problem?) claim to try to suppress certain type so of marriage were making stupid arguments. I'm making an argument that shoots down the faux fairness justification. Both sides of that coin can't be stupid.

Unless you're of the position that "it's justifiable when it reinforces the things I like, but bad when it allows the things I don't"? I would hope not, because that would be a blatant double standard.

Just because I find the argument stupid doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to voice it. To the best of my knowledge, Twitter or Facebook doesn't ban that argument. Even if they do, that is their right as private companies, just like Christian Forum can ban "promotion of homosexuality."

To the other part...
Christian Forums isn't Twitter, there are plenty of other options out in the market place for this particular niche.

So why is there no talk of pursuing actions under monopoly laws against Twitter or Facebook? Your issue is, they are not monopolies as you are trying to claim.

If CF became so large that there were no close second in that space, and CF became one of the primary vehicles for politicians and candidates to connect with their people (to the point where it could have election impacts), then it'd be a different story.

No, sorry, your point doesn't fit. Which is it, is Twitter or is Facebook the "monopoly" in this case -- under what you are trying to claim, they both can't be the "primary vehicles for politicians and candidates." The very fact you have Facebook, Twitter, news (print, broadcast, cable, Internet), blogs, and even Christian Forums, shows there is no "monopoly" on political speech by any of them. This is why your argument ultimately fails. Yes, Twitter has a lot of "impact," as does Facebook, but so does Fox News.

In fact, Twitter or Facebook might be more comparable to Rush Limbaugh -- no one had a radio show, particularly one that dealt with politics, the size of his. Does that mean in the 90s the Democrats should have pushed laws to "moderate" Rush Limbaugh since he had a monopoly on political speech on the radio?

The very fact that people acknowledged (and expressed concern over) disinformation campaigns on Facebook and Twitter, and senators called Mark Z and Jack D up to capitol hill over the matter shows that they're acknowledging that there's something special about Facebook and Twitter (with regards to their reach and influence) that goes well beyond what other social media outlets can tout.

Yes, they are large and have wide reach -- just like Fox News does. Seriously, the fact that you have to lump Facebook and Twitter together makes your argument fail, as by having to list both shows that neither company has a "monopoly." Worse, to really make your claim, you have to lump Amazon in with them, since they have such a large share of Internet hosting -- which is what people tend to claim prevents rivals from growing.


Again, as I mentioned before, it's not that the "rules", on paper, are any different, it's that rules, in effect, (while remaining the same across the board) can be constructed in such a way that they negatively and disproportionately impact one particular group.

The example I used before was Voter ID laws... they're the same across the board for everyone, yet, it's very obvious that the rules themselves are being pushed in efforts to disenfranchise certain group of voters.

Again, fine. Of course, then you get back to the issue that Facebook and Twitter can create their own policies. If they only want to allow liberal speech, then that is their right -- of course they'd lose much of their "reach," as what makes them so large is that we get millions of people on both sides discussing issues.

The danger that I think you miss, if you remove the ability of Twitter and Facebook to control the content, then you also open the door to doing it to all media -- so (if he were alive) -- we could legislate what Rush Limbaugh can do with his show, since he had a similar "monopoly," and then you can start using the government to "censor" what can be said by news organizations like Fox News, OAN, and Newsmax (since we can lump all conservative cable news as a "monopoly" despite there being multiple companies) and the Washington Post and NY Times in print media for their "monopoly."

Either we allow free speech, including the right of companies to determine what speech they choose to allow and promote, or we run the risk of killing free speech.
 
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How big, then? At what point, exactly, do these new rules kick? How do you determine that?

Double yes if they start serving a public function like allowing people to check their voter registrations, sending out voting reminders, and telling people where their polling locations are (like Facebook does)
Launching The Largest Voting Information Effort in US History - About Facebook
Why does 'serving a public function' automatically change things?



FRC is an organization with 80 employees and a yearly budget that's less than the ad revenue that FB makes by January 4th every year, and they're an "activist/lobbying" organization, they're not purporting to be a platform.

I never said they were. My point was that they're allowed to speak out against trans-rights all they want, and haven't been hindered by doing so from Twitter's misgendering policies


...I don't recall the owner of Parler being called up to capitol hill multiple times by the Senate for high profile hearings like Mark and Jack.
I never said they were.

Regardless, you're not really arguing against my point - in fact, you seem to agree with me. You're basically saying that Twitter and Facebook have to follow different rules simply because they're more popular, because of the way the public has received them. But any platform can become popular, and any platform can have influence over the people who use it. Yes, Parler, Gab, MeWe, et cetera are smaller platforms with lesser influence, but that influence is still there. Even a place like CF can exercise some small amount of influence over its users and the way they talk about and perceive things. It's the nature of a platform.

How do we measure when a platform has too much influence? What metric do we use to determine which platforms need to get this special treatment? It just strikes me as unfair to say 'Hey, you've gotten too popular, now you have to follow different rules'. Especially when I'm not even sure what those rules are.

In your ideal scenario, how should Twitter work? What is the best, most fair Twitter?
 
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One other thing I should note, just because Twitter and Facebook are the largest now doesn't mean they always will be. For those of us old enough, we can remember when MySpace was the big thing. Facebook did things better and killed of MySpace.

Facebook is not a monopoly and when (it is almost certain to happen at some point) someone does "social media" better than Facebook, then we'll remember Facebook in a similar way to how MySpace is remembered today.
 
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One other thing I should note, just because Twitter and Facebook are the largest now doesn't mean they always will be. For those of us old enough, we can remember when MySpace was the big thing. Facebook did things better and killed of MySpace.

Facebook is not a monopoly and when (it is almost certain to happen at some point) someone does "social media" better than Facebook, then we'll remember Facebook in a similar way to how MySpace is remembered today.

I would say one difference is that FB and Twitter became large enough to buy out potential competitors. IMHO, anti-trust laws should have prevented them from doing that.
 
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When a company has essentially a monopoly in its sector it is subject to existing anti-trust laws and regulations. This means that there is legal remedy available.

That is what many are calling for.
 
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I would say one difference is that FB and Twitter became large enough to buy out potential competitors. IMHO, anti-trust laws should have prevented them from doing that.

Unfortunately, a legal monopoly is just that -- legal.

They got to the top of their game not by engaging in shady business practices, but by being the best at what they do (and on a side note, the fact that there are two of them kind of shoots down the "monopoly" argument).
 
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How big, then? At what point, exactly, do these new rules kick? How do you determine that?

Why does 'serving a public function' automatically change things?

Because it's a conflict of interest if one is acting on behalf of the state for certain matters (or providing a certain service that was traditionally a public service, but isn't confined to some of the same rules (per the SCOTUS ruling in 1946)

I never said they were. My point was that they're allowed to speak out against trans-rights all they want, and haven't been hindered by doing so from Twitter's misgendering policies

Yes, but they don't wield the same size sword in the "marketplace of ideas" that Twitter does.

It's the reason why when "Crazy Carl" stands out in front of a local hardware store in a "Q" shirt, holding a sign that says "Don't trust the Bill Gates vaccine!", congress isn't too concerned about calling the owner of the hardware store to a hearing to say to him "Hey, you really need to put safeguards in place to stop the spread of misinformation in front of your store"

But when a platform exists where a million "Crazy Carls" can all do that in a place where billions of people can be regularly exposed to it, it presents a much larger challenge.

How do we measure when a platform has too much influence? What metric do we use to determine which platforms need to get this special treatment?

When they become so influential that members of the government starts
A) having call them up to capitol hill because their platforms are so influential that they can tip elections
B) when the government (and public health departments) starts leveraging them for tasks like weeding out false information on vaccines, and assisting with voter registration and directing people to their polling places


I assume you had some concerns with misinformation that arguably could've tipped the election in favor of Trump back in 2016, yes?

If it was a simple as "they're a private entity, they can have whatever rules they want", then by that logic, those concerns should be dismissible because Facebook should be able to have whatever policies they want in order to get the largest number of users on their platform to get them more ad revenue.

In your ideal scenario, how should Twitter work? What is the best, most fair Twitter?

A policy package similar to what was recommended for net neutrality, but tailored to social media, would be a good start.
 
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For which one? Facebook or Twitter?

Read multiple sources - watch multiple sources. It is the best way to get a balanced view of the events unfolding.

Facebook, Twitter have both had multiple appearances before Congress and committees -
 
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