Is Paying Tithes Worth It?

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I've always paid tithes as a matter of Biblical principle that I've been taught growing up in church. But I'm just considering the fact that if I didn't, I could afford a place on my own. I used to pay tithes out of my net income since that's what I really earn but then a man preached that it should be the gross income tithe rather than the net income so I mulled it over, thought about the amount the state takes out in taxes, and began to tithe gross rather than net. I don't want to just cold turkey stop paying tithes, since I do so regularly and I do it to honor God. But the financial struggle is real, and life is expensive. The word of God says that if we honor Him with our finances then He would open the heavens of blessings for us but I'm struggling and have been for a long time. What do I do? I'm not discrediting the blessings that God has given me, I'm grateful for them, I'm just struggling.
 

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I've always paid tithes as a matter of Biblical principle that I've been taught growing up in church. But I'm just considering the fact that if I didn't, I could afford a place on my own. I used to pay tithes out of my net income since that's what I really earn but then a man preached that it should be the gross income tithe rather than the net income so I mulled it over, thought about the amount the state takes out in taxes, and began to tithe gross rather than net. I don't want to just cold turkey stop paying tithes, since I do so regularly and I do it to honor God. But the financial struggle is real, and life is expensive. The word of God says that if we honor Him with our finances then He would open the heavens of blessings for us but I'm struggling and have been for a long time. What do I do? I'm not discrediting the blessings that God has given me, I'm grateful for them, I'm just struggling.
I think tithing is more for established adults ... who actually have a God-given income, ... though giving what you can to God's kingdom should be taught at all ages.

When I was a young adult in school, and my finances were running tight, I promised God that if He gave me a pass on tithing until I got established, ... I would honor Him forever afterward with purposed generosity in my giving to His work.

It seemed to work, and I have stayed true to my promise for 40 years hence ...
 
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You are NOT required to tithe. It is to be done willingly to show thanks towards God. NEVER let anyone shame you into giving when you yourself are financially hurting!

6 Remember this: The person who plants a little will have a small harvest. But the person who plants a lot will have a big harvest. 7 Each one should give, then, what he has decided in his heart to give. He should not give if it makes him sad. And he should not give if he thinks he is forced to give. God loves the person who gives happily. 8 And God can give you more blessings than you need. Then you will always have plenty of everything. You will have enough to give to every good work. 9 It is written in the Scriptures:

“He gives freely to the poor.
The things he does are right and will continue forever.” Psalm 112:9

10 God is the One who gives seed to the farmer. And he gives bread for food. And God will give you all the seed you need and make it grow. He will make a great harvest from your goodness. 11 God will make you rich in every way so that you can always give freely. And your giving through us will cause many to give thanks to God. 12 This service that you do helps the needs of God’s people. It is also bringing more and more thanks to God. 13 This service you do is a proof of your faith. Many people will praise God because of it. They will praise God because you follow the Good News of Christ—the gospel you say you believe. They will praise God because you freely share with them and with all others. 14 And when they pray, they will wish they could be with you. They will feel this because of the great grace that God has given you. 15 Thanks be to God for his gift that is too wonderful to explain.
~2 Corinthians 9:6-15 (ICB)

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God is happy enough with worship and gratitude. Everything in the world is already His, and does NOT need your money.

7 God says, “My people, listen to me.
Israel, I will testify against you.
I am God, your God.
8 I do not scold you for your sacrifices.
You always bring me your burnt offerings.
9 But I do not need the bulls from your stalls
or the goats from your pens.
10 Every animal of the forest is already mine.

The cattle on a thousand hills are mine.
11 I know every bird on the mountains.
Every living thing in the fields is mine.
12 If I were hungry, I would not tell you.
The earth and everything on it are mine.
13 I don’t eat the meat of bulls
or drink the blood of goats.
14 Give an offering to show thanks to God.
Give God Most High what you have promised.
15 Call to me in times of trouble.
I will save you, and you will honor me.”
~Psalms 50:7-15 (ICB)

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In this context, cattle and bulls would have been a VERY GENEROUS offering. Read what pleases God more:

30 I will praise God in a song.
I will honor him by giving thanks.
31 That will please the Lord more than offering him cattle.

It will please him more than the sacrifice of a bull with horns and hooves.
32 People who are not proud will see this and be glad.
Be encouraged, you who worship God.

33 The Lord listens to those in need.
He does not look down on captives.
~Psalm 69:30-33 (ICB)

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The Lord Jesus Christ was quoting Hosea 6:6 when He said, "I want mercy, not sacrifice."

Jesus Chooses Matthew
9 When Jesus was leaving, he saw a man named Matthew. Matthew was sitting in the tax office. Jesus said to him, “Follow me.” And Matthew stood up and followed Jesus.

10 Jesus had dinner at Matthew’s house. Many tax collectors and “sinners” came and ate with Jesus and his followers. 11 The Pharisees saw this and asked Jesus’ followers, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and ‘sinners’?”

12 Jesus heard the Pharisees ask this. So he said, “Healthy people don’t need a doctor. Only the sick need a doctor. 13 Go and learn what this means: ‘I want faithful love more than I want animal sacrifices.’ I did not come to invite good people. I came to invite sinners.”
~Matthew 9:9-13 (ICB)

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Even if you truly want to give an offering to God, it does NOT have to be 10% of your income. It can be as small as two pennies, as the widow did with her two Biblical pennies. Look at how the Lord Jesus Christ reacted to her offering:

True Giving
21 Jesus saw some rich people putting their gifts into the Temple money box. 2 Then Jesus saw a poor widow. She put two small copper coins into the box. 3 He said, “I tell you the truth. This poor widow gave only two small coins. But she really gave more than all those rich people. 4 The rich have plenty; they gave only what they did not need. This woman is very poor, but she gave all she had. And she needed that money to live on.”
~Luke 21:1-4 (ICB)

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Provide for your family and household first, then worry about others later:

Rules for Living with Others
1 Do not speak angrily to an older man, but talk to him as if he were your father. Treat younger men like brothers. 2 Treat older women like mothers, and younger women like sisters. Always treat them in a pure way.

3 Take care of widows who are all alone. 4 But if a widow has children or grandchildren, the first thing they need to learn is to do their duty to their own family. When they do this, they will be repaying their parents or grandparents. That pleases God. 5 If a widow is all alone and without help, then she puts her hope in God and prays night and day for God’s help. 6 But the widow who uses her life to please herself is really dead while she is still living. 7 Tell the believers there to do these things so that no one can say they are doing wrong. 8 A believer should take care of his own relatives, especially his own family. If he does not do that, he has turned against the faith. He is worse than a person who does not believe in God.
~1 Timothy 5:1-8 (ICB)

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You cannot pour into a cup when your pitcher is already empty.

God bless!
 
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Also, I STRONGLY advise you to save as much money as you possibly can. Hard times are here, and expect them to get harder. Get into couponing, sewing, and other skills that can save money and resources. The Holy Bible is also filled with financial advice, especially in the Old Testament. This is why the Jews are stereotyped as being good with money.

I have INCOMPLETE notes regarding Biblical financial advice. DO NOT take my advice as gospel, TRUST CREDIBLE EXPERTS ONLY!!! I hope this at least plants a seed for you and others to read, study, and KNOW Scripture daily, especially with this gem of Biblical truth:

Introduction
“Either the Bible’s financial advice is from God, or the greatest financial genius in history was a Jew.”
~Personal Opinion

The Holy Bible, particularly the Old Testament, contains advice about money management. The Jewish diaspora took these to heart, developing a reputation for being good with money. This stereotype fuels anti-Semitism, because Gentiles can feel intimidated by Jewish financial success. Jews are disproportionately the wealthiest religious group in the Western world, proving Biblical financial advice should be common sense.[1]

Warning About Finances
“For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”
~1 Timothy 6:10, NKJV

The love of money is a root of evil, opening doors to temptation.[10] Examples of greed and pride going before the destruction include Theranos,[15] Enron,[16] and Fyre Festival.[17] The decision must be made to serve either God or Mammon, because one cannot serve both. Exploiting others for personal gain is sin, and no one can buy their way into Heaven. Atheists and agnostics tend to be wealthier on average, because they put their trust in Mammon, not God.[1]
(Acts 8:18-23, Eccles. 5:8-20, 1 Tim. 6:2-10, James 5:1-6, Luke 16:19-31, Matt. 6:24, 19:16-30, Prov. 16:18, 16:25)

Dangers of Serving Mammon
“God is love. Mammon does not love, it only demands.”
~The Holy Spirit

“If I could have just a little more, I will be happy…” Even the richest man alive still says this. The quote, “People buy things they don’t need, with money they don’t have, to impress people they don’t like,” is the entire basis of ‘Keeping up with Joneses.’ The quest for social status, fueled by pride, greed, and selfish ambition, has put countless into debt. Even seemingly pure intentions, like pursuit of happiness and charity, can also suffer the same. The Millennial Generation is deep in student loan debt. Entire nations, such as Canada and the United States, are in deep debt on national levels. A deeply indebted country resorted to glorified bank robbery to pay debts. Eventually, we will all pay, both literally and figuratively.

Retail therapy is the most expensive form of therapy. The United States is suffering a profound epidemic of white collar crime. Human trafficking is ruining entire generations. Mass media relying on fear and sex are leading to distrust between people. Social media is ruining the mental health of an entire generation of youths, and the rest of the world.

According to John Glubb’s essay, The Fate of Empires, common signs of a country in decline are an over-bloated welfare system, pursuit of wealth and pleasure, and decline in religion, character, and morality. Decline begins when pursuit of personal wealth overtakes pursuit of wealth for the entire country. Nothing new under the sun.

What good is it if one gains the whole world, yet loses his soul?

Basics
“The answer is not to make more money, but to be wise in managing it.”
~The Holy Spirit

First off, recognize God as the source of everything in life. Always be thankful, content, and positive, even in hard times and/or situations. Gratitude promotes mental health and happiness.[3] Make Biblical ethics, the Greatest Commandment, your treasure in life. Humility is key, because accident of birth is an unfortunate reality. Therefore, trust and serve God, NEVER Mammon! The latter will eventually abandon you.
(Col. 3:16-17, 1 Chron. 16:34, 2 Cor. 9:8, Eph. 5:20, Ex. 20:17, Heb. 13:5-6, Luke 12:15, Matt. 6:24, Phil. 4:6-7, Prov. 8:20-21, 14:23, 16:16, 16:18, Ps. 9:1, 95:2-3, 1 Thess. 4:11-12)

No perfect economic system exists. The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard can be seen as criticism of both communism and capitalism. For communism, it shows equal pay for unequal work, as enforced by ‘the state’ (the vineyard owner). For capitalism, it shows working hard for long hours not always guaranteeing results, because the business owner (of the vineyard) can still choose to reward less deserving employees. In both examples, the workers gave realistic reactions to the vineyard owner’s decision.

Furthermore, Communism only works if everyone is willing to contribute based on need. This is manageable on smaller scales, but never on larger ones, such as the former USSR. Capitalism is based mostly on want, even at morality’s expense. Not everyone will agree with national policy, especially when it involves pursuit of wealth, power, and prestige. Again, serve God, NEVER Mammon!
(Acts 4:32-37, Luke 16:1-15, John 11:45-48, Matthew 20:1-16, 23:1-12, 2 Thessalonians 3:6-15, 1 Timothy 6:3-10, 2 Timothy 3:1-17)

Humble yourself. North American culture may frown upon adults living with their parents, but other cultures call it ‘having a strong family unit.’ Baking and sewing are useful money-saving skills, not threats to masculinity. No one is above charity, just unwilling to accept help. Swallow your pride, or be destroyed.
(Prov. 16:18, 16:25)

Always plan ahead. Do the research, count the costs, and think long game. Prioritize needs over wants. Create a monthly budget and run on surplus. Keep record of spending habits, and make necessary changes. When planning risky investments and major financial decisions, trust credible experts only!
(Luke 14:28-30, Prov. 15:22, 21:5, 23:23, 24:3-4, 24:27, Ps 1:1)

Build positive relationships. Honesty, integrity, and common courtesy are required with clients. They build trust and credibility over time. Otherwise, it only creates short term gain, at the risk of losing credibility, relationships, careers, and even freedom from prison. Think long term.
(Acts 20:35, Eph. 4:29, Luke 16:9-13, Phil. 2:3, Prov. 6:16-19, 12:17-19)

Give, from family to organizations within reason. Do not expect anything in return nor under compulsion, but out of genuine willingness. While taxes are a legal requirement, giving is personal and builds stronger communities. It is also a form of gratitude towards God, extending His blessings onto others. Giving can promote happiness, health, gratitude, social connections, and inspire others to give as well.[4][5] Beware of exploitation, though. If every encounter with ‘friends’ involve requests for money and gifts, walk away. Be generous, but never enable. Relationships should be two-sided, never parasitic.
(Acts 20:33-35, 2 Cor. 9:6-7, Deut. 14:23, Luke 6:38, 16:9, Prov. 3:9, Rom. 13:6-7)

Saving

Never co-sign.[18] No one is responsible for anyone's debts but their own.
(Prov. 6:1-5, 11:15, 17:18, 20:16, 22:26-27, 27:13)

Keep an emergency fund.[19] Keep at least 3 to 6 months worth of income saved for unforeseen events. These include injury, illness, loss of job, property damage, and emergency purchases. The ‘Just World Hypothesis’ has no basis in reality.[20] Just ask Job, the rich man, and Lazarus.
(Gen. 41:34-36, Job, Luke 16:19-31)

Save, save, save! Save as much money as possible for future plans. The belief that money is meant to be spent is unsustainable in the long run. Saving will lead to more comfortable and/or earlier retirements. At retirement age, reduce risk and avoid bad investments. Those funds need to last. Leftover money is greatly beneficial for descendants, giving them a greater chance at life. Think long game and selflessly.
(Eccles. 4:8, 5:13-14, Prov. 13:22, 21:20, 22:3)

Reduce, reuse, and recycle. Saves money, time, and resources. Buy generic brand name products in bulk and use economically. Improvise leftover waste for use such as rice bag luggage, KFC container Tupperware, and opened envelope notepads. Thrift stores are excellent sources of practical trinkets, cheap!
(Prov. 21:20)

Find inexpensive hobbies. Card games, board games, and the like. The best kinds are the ones with many different games using the same product. For example, a standard deck of cards has many games. If video games are desired, find one with high replay value and easy-to-use modding features.
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Pay your debts and try to keep out of them. Live within your means. Avoid credit card and/or bank loan debt by saving money in advance for large purchases. Patience is a major money saving Fruit of the Spirit. Over time, debt interest will only prove costlier in the long run. Hollywood paints frightening consequences.
(Deut. 15:6, Eccles. 5:5, Prov. 22:7, 22:26-27, Ps. 37:21)


The Debt Snowball[12]

STEP 1: Gather all debt, except for your mortgage.
STEP 2: Make a list and order your debts from the smallest to largest.
STEP 3: Continue making minimum payments on all debts but the smallest.
STEP 4: Find extra money anywhere you can, such as picking up side jobs, having a garage sale, or giving up luxuries.
STEP 5: Get gazelle intense. Put all that extra cash towards the smallest debt. Pay off that first debt as quickly as possible! Knock it out!
STEP 6: When the smallest debt is gone, roll that payment over to the next.
STEP 7: Repeat until you are debt free!

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Making

Avoid get-rich-quick schemes. They often involve risky and/or amoral practices to achieve goals. Think long game, work hard, be patient, and avoid unnecessary risks. Gambling is a terrible way of making money, and can be addictive. As a former co-worker said about spending welfare money on lottery tickets, “Spending guaranteed income from the government on income that is not guaranteed.” Avoid these at all costs if found on the internet. As said in a newspaper comic, “On the internet, no one knows you’re a dog!”
(Heb. 13:5-6, Matt. 6:24, Prov. 13:11, 16:33, 22:16, 28:19-22, 1 Tim. 6:10)

Invest in education. The saying, “A fool and his money are soon parted,” are one of many reasons to invest in education. Gain knowledge, skills, and character development. There is a strong correlation between education and income, and some religions put heavy emphasis on the former.[1]
(Proverbs 16:16)

Work hard. Strong work ethic is a key asset in anything. Practice daily by doing small chores, as if using Mr. Miyagi’s ‘wax on, wax off,’ approach. However, always take at least one day off and get plenty of sleep.
(Col. 3:23, Ex. 23:12, Prov. 12:24, 13:4, 14:23, 28:19, Ps. 127:2)

Diversify investments. The saying, “Don’t put all your eggs in one basket” applies. Should one investment go south, other investments proving more stable, even successful, will balance it out. Keeping back-ups of certain items, and copies of documents, digital and physical, are also wise investments.
(Eccles. 4:9-12, 11:1-6)

Gold will eventually lose its value. While there is profit to be made in precious metal investment, you cannot eat it. More practical commodities exist during crisis.[21][22]
(Ezek. 7:19-22)

Work

Respect and obey your boss, even if he's cruel. It's a tough pill to swallow but being a good worker in spite of unsavoury management only proves how much more worthy of promotion you are than the abusive boss, both Biblically and worldly. People root for the co-worker they want to work under. However, If your boss is violating federal law then you have full permission to refuse orders. Be sure to pay your income tax and serve as if you are serving God himself.
(Col. 3:22-25, Luke 19:11-27, Matt. 25:14-30, 1 Pet. 2:18-25, Rom. 13:1-7)

Use honesty, integrity, and discernment in your dealings. The sad reality is, some will take advantage of your generosity and work ethic. This is where you need to apply your moral values while still using research, connections, and street smarts to navigate yourself in the sea of agenda-driven individuals. Honesty and integrity are the best policies because even criminal organizations rely on those they can trust to manage their resources.
(Luke 16:1-15, Matt. 10:16)

Have a strong work ethic. It is key in all areas of life. Laziness is a very dangerous vice as the property falls into disrepair and the needs of the entire community are not met. Employment contributes to wellbeing as non-monetary rewards include social status, social relations, daily structure, and goals providing personal happiness.[6] Meaningful work is more important than a high salary.[7]
Employment (Gen. 2:15, Prov. 13:23, 1 Thess. 4:11, 2 Thess. 3:10-12)
Hard work (Col. 3:23, Prov. 12:11, 12:24, 13:4, 14:23, 28:19)
Laziness (Prov. 18:9, 19:15, 20:4, 21:25, 24:30-34, 2 Thess. 3:6-15, 1 Tim. 5:8)

Be sure to get enough rest. You will need at least one day of the week off for leisure, relaxation, and avoiding burnout. The average person needs 7 to 9 hours of sleep each night[8] because sleep deprivation is strongly linked to negative emotions such as worry, anxiety, and depression.[9]
(Gen. 2:1-3, Ex. 20:8-10, 23:12, 34:21, 35:1-3, Mark 2:27, Matt. 11:28, Prov. 3:24, Ps. 4:8, 127:2)

Bear in mind the reality of hard work not always paying off. Despite all your hard work, the boss can still give that promotion to another, less deserving co-worker. The boss is the legal owner of the business and is entitled to manage it however he wants while remaining within federal law. The Kingdom of Heaven works the same way so use this worldly experience as preparation for it. Another thing to keep in mind, some employers will favour results rather than honour.
(Luke 16:1-15, Matt. 20:1-16)

Contribute something to the household. This involves all family members and/or friends living in the household. Adult children living with parents should either pay rent or pay room and board by working around the house. Living with one's parents as an adult is not shameful but living off of them is.
(2 Thess. 3:6-15, 1 Tim. 5:3-8)

Charity

Basics
When engaging in charity, have the right motives. Doing it for personal gain will only make you lose your credibility after the cat gets out of the bag. Doing it to glorify God and His teachings will inspire others to accept Christ and become better people. Even with the potential benefits it brings to your resume, do it because you want to, not because you have to. It is far more rewarding that way.
(2 Cor. 9:1-15, Luke 16:9, Matt. 5:13-16, 6:1-4)

Help everyone, even those you hate. Which is more admirable, to continue the cycle of evil which is the easy thing to do, or provide a helping hand to even one's own enemies which is the hard thing to do? Be the change you wish to see in the world. Society is as good as the people participating in it.
(Matt. 5:13-16, 5:43-48)

Use honesty, integrity, and discernment in your dealings. The sad reality is, some will take advantage of your generosity and work ethic. This is where you need to apply your moral values while still using research, connections, and street smarts to navigate yourself in the sea of agenda-driven individuals. Honesty and integrity are the best policies because even criminal organizations rely on those they can trust to manage their resources.
(Luke 16:1-15, Matt. 10:16)

Be generous but do not enable. Charity does have its limits because as previously stated, some will take advantage of your generosity and work ethic. Charity towards the wrong people will only siphon funds away from those who truly need it. Often times, in order to solve an issue you will need to pull out the root instead of applying a temporary band-aid.
(2 Cor. 9:1-15, 2 Thess. 3:6-15, 1 Tim. 5:3-8)

Worthy Charities According to the Lord Jesus Christ
(Matt. 25:31-46)

Providing Basic Needs - "...for I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink... I needed clothes and you clothed me..."
· Volunteering and/or donating to thrift stores, soup kitchens, food banks, disaster reliefs, and just about any cash-strapped organizations serving the community.
· Click-to-donate sites (GreaterGood.com, Goodeed.com, FreeRice.com, etc).
· Buying a sandwich and coffee for the homeless, drug addicted, and/or impoverished.

Serving The Vulnerable - "I was a stranger and you invited me in... I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me..."
· Volunteering and/or donating to homeless shelters, retirement homes, charity-driven churches, and just about any cash-strapped organizations serving the community.
· Click-to-donate sites (GreaterGood.com, Goodeed.com, FreeRice.com, etc).
· Helping immigrants and social misfits integrate into the community.
· Rehabilitating criminals, drug addicts, the homeless, and anyone else with problems, both great and small.
 
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40 Money Saving Tips[13]​


Home
When it comes to saving money at home, if you own your own house, your mortgage often is what it is. You could refinance (maybe) but it’s a big undertaking especially if you’re a new homeowner. There are a few ways you can still save, however. And if you’re renting, there are even more ways to save!

Help your landlord. Offer to do odd jobs for your landlord or make improvements to your place to take money off your rent. Weigh out the cost/benefit ratio to ensure you aren’t paying more for your projects then you’re saving (for example, spending $250 on paint to knock $20 off your rent won’t result in savings). Offer to do lawn care, snow removal and other projects.

Keep up preventative maintenance. If you own your own home, preventative maintenance is a pain but it will also save you in the long run. Schedule a check-up on your furnace and air conditioning systems regularly. Repair any leaks, cracks or damage you notice in your home. Keep up on small repairs to increase the value of your home and stave off big expenses down the road.

Check your tax assessment. Watch your property tax assessment each year and even check it against your neighbors if possible. Assessors are human and make mistakes too. You may be paying more for your home than you need to. Plus, taxes change over time.

Pay (even slightly) extra. To save money on interest, lower the repayment time on your mortgage and stay ahead, pay extra toward your principle each month. Even a small amount ($25-$50) makes a huge difference and add up quickly. Plus, it feels good when you’re eventually a payment ahead.

Consider a roommate. I know it’s not for everyone, but if a friend or family member is looking for a spot to stay and you’ve got the room, taking in a roommate will supplement your rent or mortgage. Check the rules in your lease agreement to find out if there are any restrictions on additional tenants, but most informal arrangements are fine for a few months (and bring in extra money)!

Rent your space. If you own a parking spot, a storage space or other room you aren’t using, why not rent it out to earn some extra cash? Look into the process of turning your home into a vacation-rental through companies like Airbnb, to earn money when you aren’t using your space. You can rent out boats, vehicles and other items you aren’t using as well.

Utilities
Utilities include your heat, cooling, insurance, cable, phone and other monthly bills. You might think of these expenses as fixed, but there are plenty of ways to adjust them and save. Watch these bills closely too—you don’t want to pay for what you don’t need.

Turn down your heat by a few degrees. Most of us crank our heat, especially on cold days in the winter. Turning your heat down a few degrees (think 3-5) will save you significant money on your gas and electric bills. If you can put on a sweater instead of touching the thermostat, do it!

Use a fan. A ceiling fan, and even a box fan will cut your cooling costs dramatically. Keep your windows open in the morning and evening to get a breeze blowing through. Hang out in your basement or the coolest part of your house so you don’t crank the A/C when the weather’s hot.

Cut out cable. Ready to take the plunge? If you’re signed up for Amazon, Hulu, Netflix or any other streaming services, you probably don’t need cable. If you can’t imagine living without it, get a Roku or an a la cart service like Sling TV. Check out our guide to living without cable to get you through cord cutting.

Go for slower internet. Okay, I know slow internet SUCKS, but you know what? Back in the day, we were all used to way slower internet speeds than we are now. Plus, even the slower speeds aren’t noticeable and you can still stream on them. Check with your internet provider to see about downgrading.

Use an ELP for insurance. If you want to find an insurance provider who won’t rip you off, check out Endorsed Local Providers. Dave Ramsey provides this service and these providers are screened and endorsed. Call to negotiate rates, especially if you’ve been with the same provider for a while.

Call to negotiate. Call your utility companies to negotiate better deals. Often, these companies run new customer special offers, especially phone, cable and internet providers. Ask them to extend their deals to you, as a loyal customer.

Drop your phone provider. I use Republic Wireless and the benefit of using a smaller, lesser-known wireless company is they offer GREAT deals. I saved almost $100/month by switching providers. Even if you’re locked into a contract, consider switching or dropping some of your services. Use less data, texting or calling services to cut your bill dramatically.

Pay on time and use budget billing. Simply paying your bills on time can prevent fees. Set up automatic payments through your bank so you always pay your bills when their due. Many utility companies offer budget billing services, which keeps your bill the same throughout the entire year (and regularly adjusts if your usage decreases). This can really help with planning.

Unplug. Watch out for energy vampires—appliances and electronics that stay on and running, even when you aren’t using them. I know it seems like a lot to run around your house unplugging items, but if you put them all on a power strip, you can turn them off with the flip of a switch. It will help you save on your electric bill. Remind your spouse and kids to turn off the lights when they leave a room, or unplug lights, TV cords, or video game consoles before bed. Eventually, it will become a habit and you’ll notice the difference when your bill comes.

Food
Food is one of the most expensive areas on most of our budgets. Plus, we can almost always justify spending money on food, right? You need it to live! There are plenty of ways to slash your food budget, however. Here are a few money saving tips that are completely painless.

Eat at home. If you want to save money, eating at home is by far your best bet. Even the cheapest fast food will end up costing you more than food you buy and prepare yourself. Don’t think you can give up the drive thru? Brainstorm easy, go-to dinners to help you break your fast food addiction.

Plan your meals. When it comes to stretching your budget, meal planning is huge. Sketch out your meals for the week, so you can prepare ingredients and buy only what you need. If you’re getting started with meal planning, check out our step-by-step instructions on meal planning for beginners.

Stretch meals with beans, rice and vegetables. Adding instant rice, canned beans or even extra bulky vegetables like shredded zucchini or cabbage to your favorite dishes will help them stretch into extra servings. Soups, stews and crockpot favorites can go a little further when you add these dinner recipe helpers.

Use less meat. Use meat as a garnish or accent, rather than the whole meal. Adding a little bit of spicy sausage or flavorful bacon to a dish is much cheaper than cooking a whole steak or ham. Meat really adds up on your grocery bill. Give meatless Monday a spin and give vegetarian dishes a shot.

Only buy what you eat. How many times has food spoiled in your refrigerator? Instead of buying food all kinds of new foods you want to sample, buy only one or two new or complicated items when you go to the store. Always know a plan for the ingredients you buy and don’t impulse buy (A.K.A., don’t go grocery shopping on an empty stomach) foods!

Stick to a list. When you go to the store, your list is your best friend. If you go in with a list you’ll save a ton, because you won’t buy stuff you don’t really need. Brainstorm a list, write it down and stick to it. If you’re really brave, commit to buying ONLY what’s on your list. If you forget to write it down, wait until your next trip. Try using a money-saving app like Ibotta to earn some cash back from your shopping list.

Stick to a routine. Think it’s boring to eat Taco Tuesday, Spaghetti Wednesday and fish on Friday? Well, sticking to your routine is one of a few money saving tips to slash your grocery bill. When you’ve got a plan, even if it’s the “same ol’ same ol’” you’ll always know what to cook. You know what you and your family likes and by sticking to it, you’ll never end up throwing out new foods no one ate.

Don’t beat yourself up about cooking from scratch. How many of us look at Pinterest and then feel bad when our meals don’t turn out all fancy, gourmet and beautiful? You know what? Let yourself off the hook. If you love macaroni out of a box, or if frozen pizza helps you avoid fast food, embrace it! It’s totally fine to eat what you like, even if it’s not made from scratch and pin-worthy.

Pack your sides. Sometimes you want to grab a sub with friends or you’re craving a hamburger. When this happens, order the main dish and bring along your own sides, like chips or an apple. This works especially well if you’re ordering to go anyway. You’ll get the food you want, but you won’t end up spending crazy prices for chips and drinks.

Only buy what you REALLY want. This was a tip I learned about dieting, but it works well for budgeting too. When you’re given a food choice (like, going out for pizza), ask yourself, “is this a special treat?” If it’s a celebration, a date night or another special time, great. If it’s a Tuesday or if you just don’t feel like cooking, then rethink your plans. You can indulge, but make it special and worth it.

Transportation
We love our cars, but between payments, repairs and gas, owning a car gets really expensive. Try working these money saving tips into your budget by cutting down your transportation costs.

Cut back to one car. It’s not realistic for every household to get by with one car, BUT if you’re straddling two car payments, insurance and upkeep on a car, consider it. Think of what you could pay off by selling a vehicle. Could you manage as a one-car household? If you have an older vehicle that just sits in your garage and is rarely used, consider selling it and putting that cash towards paying off a bill.

Automate errands. Set up automation as much as possible to save gas and make your life easier. Call ahead at the library to have your books waiting for you. Check out free delivery on purchases like prescriptions so you don’t have to run to the pharmacy. Invest in Amazon Prime, or another delivery service that offers free shipping to members. You can do loads of shopping online now, and your membership fee will quickly pay for itself with what you save on shipping and delivery costs. Create lists of what you need before you go to the store, meal plan and organize your errands to save tons of time.

Walk when you can. Walk your errands as often as possible. If you can walk to your bank, your dry cleaner, your post office, you’ll save gas AND get extra exercise at the same time. Whenever possible walk instead of drive.

Carpool. See if coworkers live nearby and set up a carpool for your office. Rotate drivers and cars. You’ll save on wear and tear on your car, gas and stress. Plus, you’re commute will be more enjoyable because you’ll get to visit with coworkers. Bonus: you’re more likely to get to work on time since others are dependent on you to get your butt out of bed!

Ride the bus. Public transportation is really cool. You don’t stress out about traffic. You don’t deal with other crabby driver’s road rage. You can read, listen to music and chill before you arrive at work. If you can take the bus, it’s really not bad. Plus, it’s much cheaper than keeping up a car.

Share a Lyft. If you need a ride to the airport or to an event, see if anyone else is going your way and split the fare. This works great for Uber, Lyft and even cab rides. You’ll get to your destination for half the cost and you’ll visit with friends on your trip!

Household Needs
Taking care of our house gets expensive. All of the items we need to purchase like cleaning supplies, beauty supplies and more really add up. Save on all your household needs with these money saving tips.

Automate chores. Again, automation is a great way to save time AND money. When it comes to doing stuff around the house, set up routines, stock up on what you need ahead of time and avoid running to the store on a whim for household purchases. Keep a list in your linen closet or bathroom cabinet. When you’re running low on an item add it to the list!

Buy in bulk. When you find a good deal on paper towels, shampoo, toothpaste or lotion, stock up! Buy items in bulk, especially dry goods. Toilet paper and paper towels last a LONG time (basically forever), so if you find a sale you can literally buy as much as you can store. Don’t hoard supplies, but buy plenty when you find a good deal.

DIY when possible. Around the house, we all pay for jobs we could probably do ourselves. Weigh your cost/benefit of your time, of course, but you can save a lot by DIY. Paint your own nails, cut your kid’s hair, fix items around the house rather than buying new. Mend clothes. Dry clean in your dryer (you can buy kits at the store) rather than paying someone else.

Prevention over cure. Here’s the deal, when your house is a mess, it’s going to cost you more money. When you can’t cook in your kitchen because the sink’s full of dishes, you’re going to go out to eat. When you can’t find clean clothes to wear, you’re going to justify buying new clothes. When you can’t find batteries, you’re going to run to the store to buy them. Organize your space and stay up on household chores like dishes and laundry.

Use ¾ or even ½ of what you need. If you follow the guidelines on the average box of soup or detergent, you’re probably using double what you need. You can easily get by with half the amount (or ¾ the amount) and your clothes, hair and dishes will turn out fine. Cut your use of as many products as you can in half.

Use fewer disposable items. Most of us are accustomed to disposable items. Paper towels, plastic bags and even paper plates are convenient and easy. However, these items cost money and it adds up fast. Use rags to clean your house, re-use grocery sacks or avoid disposable dishes and you’ll save. Bonus tip: many grocery stores offer rebates or at-the-register discounts for bringing your own shopping bags. While a few cents off a grocery bill might not seem like a lot at the time, the discounts will add up the more frequently you bring your own bags!

Exercise at home. You don’t need to spend money on a gym membership to stay in shape. Many gyms cost well over $50/month (most cost much more than that). Look on Craigslist for exercise equipment and set up a home gym in your office, basement or spare bedroom. Watch workouts on YouTube if you don’t own a spare room. There are lots of exercises you can do right from your phone in a small space.

Use fewer beauty products. You don’t need to cut out all beauty products or stop wearing makeup, but find products you like and stick to them. Keep in mind, most expensive department store products have a less-pricey drugstore equivalent. Drugstore beauty has come a long way and there are a bunch of great cheap brands.

Buy generic. Some of us are brand snobs. I used to LOVE Pantene shampoo. Then I tried Suave and just like on the TV commercial, I was amazed and switched. There are generic and store-brand options for almost every product you can think of. Most of them contain the same ingredients and work as well. So, give the generic, cheaper products a go.
 
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Money Saving Tips

Minimize transaction fees. With proper knowledge and budgeting, one can use the credit card to make purchases until the end of the week. At the end of the week, the credit card debt is consistently paid in full. This will minimize transactions fees and thus save money in the debt accounts.

Unless needed, cut down on showers. RESEARCH

Reduce, reuse, and recycle. RESEARCH

Entertainment

General
NEVER PIRATE ANYTHING! This only hurts the economy as a whole. For example, LimeWire was one of the biggest file sharing services in the 2000s before shutting down. It is estimated between US$400 Billion to US$75 Trillion worth of copyright infringement was committed by this service alone.[14] Revenue was lost not only for the content creators, but also tax revenue to fund various public services by the government. If profits are lost, most content will eventually cease production.
(Ephesians 4:28, Exodus 20:15)

If feasible, buy physical copies. Digital purchases often have DRM's (Digital Rights Management) meaning you do not legally own the copy to sell or loan. Owning physical copies is beneficial as long as the appropriate players are still in production.

Take advantage of deals. Many retail stores and digital services have sales at certain times of the year. If possible, go for at least 50% off. Patience and self control will pay off.

Thrift Stores are recommended. Movies, TV shows, music, and video games are common and incredibly cheap there. On top of that, many of these stores support charities. This both saves money and gives back to the community. If fortunate enough, there is a chance of discovering hidden treasure.

Movies & TV
Before buying new shows, rent them first. Movie rentals typically cost $5 or less. On iTunes, individual episodes cost around $2.99 so it's recommended to purchase the first episode or two before considering buying the entire season. If these shows can be streamed or watched at a friend's house first, then even better!

Music

Before buying new music, consider the options first. There is radio, Spotify, and official YouTube channels legally playing songs and are financially supported by advertisements. If you are able to handle the ads, then it's free and that is good. If you want to skip them, then legally purchase the song from music stores like iTunes, Google Play, and retail.

Video Games

Before buying new video games, play the free demo first. Having an idea of any potential purchase, especially if it lacks return policies, is crucial to avoid wasting money. If the demo proves enjoyable, then purchasing the full version will have a reduced risk.
 
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I've always paid tithes as a matter of Biblical principle that I've been taught growing up in church. But I'm just considering the fact that if I didn't, I could afford a place on my own. I used to pay tithes out of my net income since that's what I really earn but then a man preached that it should be the gross income tithe rather than the net income so I mulled it over, thought about the amount the state takes out in taxes, and began to tithe gross rather than net. I don't want to just cold turkey stop paying tithes, since I do so regularly and I do it to honor God. But the financial struggle is real, and life is expensive. The word of God says that if we honor Him with our finances then He would open the heavens of blessings for us but I'm struggling and have been for a long time. What do I do? I'm not discrediting the blessings that God has given me, I'm grateful for them, I'm just struggling.

I don't believe in giving a tenth as a must do, but we are told to not love money. To be generous with what we have been given, not only with money, is a call for us Christians. We are to help those in need. I also struggle with giving. If I give too little I feel ashamed, and if I give "too" much I get the feeling I'm neglecting my own life. This year I have been trying to get a balanced giving, where I give so it matters, but still have to my personal life. If we give to get something in return from God, it's a bit egoic. If God decides to reward us, we are of course to be thankful for that.

So should you tithe? I think it depends on your finances. If you have much you should give more, if you have little you can settle with less. At least that is how I see it. We are also to remember the poor widow who gave all she had to live on, and Jesus commended that. I don't know if this post was of any help. I'm not even sure I'm the right person to answer this, since I also struggle.
 
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But the financial struggle is real, and life is expensive.
Make a list of what you need, things like the latest Tesla car shouldn't be on there. The hardest part is saving for your retirement, not many pastors will invite you into their house and take care you later in life. Make a budget, get help with it if necessary and go from there.
 
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First, regarding the concept of tithing income." "Grpss income" is fake income. It's what someone said you made, not what actually came into your hands to manage. It's as though a farmer planted an acre of corn that someone said should produce 1,000 bushels, but in fact only produced 500 bushels. Do you tithe based on the 1,000 bushels someone said should have been produced, or do you tithe on the 500 bushels you actually harvested?

Second, I'll agree with others who have pointed out that tithing as a practice is not Christian or Messianic Covenant practice.

Consider this: When the New Testament scriptures were being written by Paul and others, the Jewish temple still existed in Jerusalem. Jews were still sacrificing. They were still tithing...according to the Mosaic Law all the while the New Testament was being written.

If the apostles had meant for Christians to tithe according to Mosaic Law, they would have explicitly written, "Go to Jerusalem and tithe according to the Law." It would have been mentioned in Acts 15. Luke would have described Christians making the pilgrimage. Someone would have said something about it.

But instead, a wholly new method of "resource management" was developed for the Body of Christ. Jesus lays the foundation in Luke 12. It is described in action in Acts 2 and Acts 4. Paul goes into detail in 2 Corinthians 8.

Most importantly, Paul explicitly nails the Old Testament reference of the Christian concept of "resource management" precisely on Exodus 16: The distribution of manna in the wilderness. This was before tithing began under the Mosaic Covenant (because we as Christians are not yet in our "Promised land"). God explicitly stated that each person was to get precisely the same amount--total equality--of manna, even though "some collected much and some collected little." The manna was redistributed ("meted out" in the KJV) so that "nobody had too much and nobody had too little."

Paul emphasizes that the goal in the Body of Christ is for resources to be equally available to each member. He actually states it twice.

But, O my God! that's not something a red-blooded American wants to acknowledge.
 
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Make a list of what you need, things like the latest Tesla car shouldn't be on there. The hardest part is saving for your retirement, not many pastors will invite you into their house and take care you later in life. Make a budget, get help with it if necessary and go from there.

But if we were in the congregation of Jerusalem or any of the congregations established by Paul, the congregation would have recognized that caring for their elders was their responsibility.
 
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The word of God says that if we honor Him with our finances then He would open the heavens of blessings for us but I'm struggling and have been for a long time. What do I do? I'm not discrediting the blessings that God has given me, I'm grateful for them, I'm just struggling.

I was in a similar situation in the early 2000s. I was a dedicated tither, had employment problems, and eventually started to have real hard times. I think tithing is a good practice but not absolute.

I remember talking to the wife of an Orthodox priest or deacon on tithing. I was surprised how understanding they and the church was on the issue, (I was much more conservative etc.) but they really recognized the problems of people on fixed incomes, and other life issues.

It should also be recognized as far as church history goes, that in the old days people contributed in a number of ways and not just money. They did things like baked the bread for holy communion, brought candles or oil lamps for the altar, flowers for the altar. They contributed their labor to help with church projects, clean the church, and run various church ministries etc. So stewardship is not just about money everything you can give including your time and labor helping the church.

Anyway when I had my own time of crisis and nearly had utilities cut, evictions etc. I was forced to rethink some of my thinking on the topic. I believe that God in general does bless the tithe, but it is not always some kind of magical thing, and sometimes people have to "Do what they have to do". I will also point out, I noticed that Catholics also are very understanding when it comes to people's abilities to give. They in their Catechism are required to give to support their church in ways appropriate to their means, but the details of that are left vague for that person's conscience, with no mandated tithe!
 
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But if we were in the congregation of Jerusalem or any of the congregations established by Paul, the congregation would have recognized that caring for their elders was their responsibility.
She wanted my advice and I gave it. I'm not here to convince her one way or the other about the scriptures.
 
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Hi Sister, I think you should continue tithing cause it brings blessings, cut down on spending and keep a dairy on how you spend each month. When I look at my spending list from a few years ago, I can't believe how much I was wasting on frivolous things, if I had been more thrifty I think it would have been better now. Learn sewing, it will help you save, learn DIY skills on YouTube, buy food in bulk, start gardening (if you're not doing it already), etc. These are helpful ways to cut down on spending, God bless
 
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I've always paid tithes as a matter of Biblical principle that I've been taught growing up in church. But I'm just considering the fact that if I didn't, I could afford a place on my own. I used to pay tithes out of my net income since that's what I really earn but then a man preached that it should be the gross income tithe rather than the net income so I mulled it over, thought about the amount the state takes out in taxes, and began to tithe gross rather than net. I don't want to just cold turkey stop paying tithes, since I do so regularly and I do it to honor God. But the financial struggle is real, and life is expensive. The word of God says that if we honor Him with our finances then He would open the heavens of blessings for us but I'm struggling and have been for a long time. What do I do? I'm not discrediting the blessings that God has given me, I'm grateful for them, I'm just struggling.
Charitable Giving For Churches
Giving to religion (defined as giving specifically to congregations, denominations, missionary societies, and religious media) has consistently remained America’s single largest recipient of charitable giving.

  • 49% of all church giving transactions are made with a card.
  • 8/10 people who give to churches have zero credit debt.
  • 60% are willing to give to their church digitally.
  • Tithers make up only 10-25 percent of a normal congregation.
  • Churches that accept tithing online increase overall donations by 32%.
  • Only 5% tithe, and 80% of Americans only give 2% of their income.
  • Christians are giving at 2.5% of income; during the Great Depression it was 3.3%.
  • Only 3-5% of Americans who give to their local church do so through regular tithing.
  • When surveyed, 17% of Americans state that they regularly tithe.
  • For families making $75k+, 1% of them gave at least 10% in tithing.
  • 3 out of 4 people who don’t go to church make donations to nonprofit organizations.
  • The average giving by adults who attend US Protestant churches is about $17 a week.
  • 37% of regular church attendees and Evangelicals don’t give money to church.
  • 17% of American families have reduced the amount that they give to their local church.
  • 7% of church goers have dropped regular giving by 20% or more.
  • About 10 million tithers in the US donate $50 billion yearly to church & non-profits.
  • 77% of those who tithe give 11%–20% or more of their income, far more than the baseline of 10%.
  • 7 out of 10 tithers do so based on their gross and not their net income.
  • 2018 Charitable Giving Statistics, Trends & Data: The Ultimate List of Charity Giving Stats | Nonprofits Source
 
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Tithing is a bogus concept for the individual Christian if one thinks of it as a command or a requirement.

Rather a Christian ought to be a sacrificial giver: give what you can afford and then add a bit more till it pinches. And this might be 2% or 10% or 50% or more of your net or gross income. It is what it is and not a regular "tithed" amount.

And what you can afford to give is a 'secret' known only to you and God. And you can't play games with a God who knows your financial situation better than you yourself or the credit bureau. So don't try to rationalize and tell the Lord that you need a new boat, a new living room set and a new leather coat this year but that you will pledge to give to him next year or down the line some time.

Ministers or churches or televangelists who don't trust God to provide may not be worthy of your trust. Be wary of those who beg for or demand of the tithe.
 
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Malachi 3:8 “Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. “But you ask, ‘How are we robbing you?’ “In tithes and offerings. 9 You are under a curse—your whole nation—because you are robbing me. The whole nation of Israel. Malachi is written to Jews under the old covenant.

Many churches teach that Christians are obligated to give a minimum of 10% of our income to our church. Others teach that preachers of these churches are turning the 10% tithe in the Old Testament into a monetary, legalistic prescription for Christians.

I even once heard a Pastor make a challenge to his congregation to give 10% of their income for 90 days and if God does not bless them then he will give them their money back. That same Pastor legalistically uses the 10% tithe to brow-beat people in that church with guilt. He even handed out pledge cards for people to fill out so they can pledge to give extra money on a monthly basis over a three year period above and beyond the 10% tithe directly to the "moving forward" project to build a new mega church. More than a few people have left that church because all that Pastor mainly talks about is money (primarily the 10% tithe) and building that new mega church.

During one sermon, he even mentioned that a member of that church came into his office one day somewhat irate and said that he is leaving that church because he is tired of hearing about money all the time and needs to find a church where he can go deeper in the word. The Pastor mentioned that the word "deeper" is a code word for "I'm not tithing 10%." The Pastor went on to say that he checked the records and sure enough that member of the church was not giving 10% and some months gave nothing at all and then acted like good riddance to him!

In 2 Corinthians 9:5-7 we read: Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren to go to you ahead of time, and prepare your generous gift beforehand, which you had previously promised, that it may be ready as a matter of generosity and not as a grudging obligation. But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.

I don't see a "specific percentage" given anywhere for Christians to give, but I certainly believe in giving and not just to our church. I also believe that everything we own belongs to God.
 
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I've always paid tithes as a matter of Biblical principle that I've been taught growing up in church. But I'm just considering the fact that if I didn't, I could afford a place on my own. I used to pay tithes out of my net income since that's what I really earn but then a man preached that it should be the gross income tithe rather than the net income so I mulled it over, thought about the amount the state takes out in taxes, and began to tithe gross rather than net. I don't want to just cold turkey stop paying tithes, since I do so regularly and I do it to honor God. But the financial struggle is real, and life is expensive. The word of God says that if we honor Him with our finances then He would open the heavens of blessings for us but I'm struggling and have been for a long time. What do I do? I'm not discrediting the blessings that God has given me, I'm grateful for them, I'm just struggling.
Tithing is not part of the new covenant. Yeshua demands something more he wants us to do his work we are to be disciples. We are to serve our communities through or work and life by being love and compassion bringers to those who come into our lives. Thithing is to this a pittance.
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Tithing is not part of the new covenant. Yeshua demands something more he wants us to do his work we are to be disciples. We are to serve our communities through or work and life by being love and compassion bringers to those who come into our lives. Thithing is to this a pittance.
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Those things were done during tithing times plus they tithed. I can't understand why anyone would want to keep anything from God. Consider the source and then deny God.
 
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