The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.

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It's interesting. People around me have always feared death, considered it a bad thing, etc. Yet I view death as not just a natural thing, as it happens to all things (all animals die, our lifestyles eventually change, rocks eventually erode, the sun will eventually die out, etc.), but a good thing as well. After we die, we will be with God in Heaven. Isn't that a good thing? So I have found that death no longer makes me sad. This year I have lost a pet, as well as my grandmother, and I found that I moved very quickly into the acceptance phase of grief.

It is spiritual death, the death of the soul, that I find sad. This is the death that must be destroyed, and is ultimately a result of our choices and lack of belief. I feel that many times that the Bible mentions death, it refers to spiritual death as opposed to physical death.
 
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1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.

"Death" must be seen in symbolic instead of literal terms.
Who made that rule?
The word is symbolically used to represent a geopolitical country, instead of "death" in a literal sense.

Please discuss.
Physical death is destroyed for all mankind in the resurrection.
There will be no more physical death after the resurrection of all mankind at the end of time.

Eternal death is destroyed for the church in the rebirth of the Holy Spirit.
All mankind is born without eternal life, and in spiritual death, and raised to eternal life in the rebirth of the Holy Spirit.
 
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It is spiritual death, the death of the soul, that I find sad. This is the death that must be destroyed, and is ultimately a result of our choices and lack of belief. I feel that many times that the Bible mentions death, it refers to spiritual death as opposed to physical death.
Can you define and support "spiritual death" with scripture?
Did Jesus die a "spiritual death" on the cross, or did he die a physical death?
 
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1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.

"Death" must be seen in symbolic instead of literal terms.

The word is symbolically used to represent a geopolitical country, instead of "death" in a literal sense.

Please discuss.

Death is very real ... happens every day .... it is VERY literal.

The death that is being referred to in 1 Corinthians 15:26 is the second death (cease to exist for eternity) also literal.

All who die the first death (earthly death) lay dormant in the grave (biblically referred to as a sleep) why? Because all will be resurrected .... either in the first (of the saved) or in the 2nd (of the lost).

Jesus overcame (eternal) death at the cross and those in the first resurrection will receive eternal life.

1 Thessalonians 4

The Return of the Lord

13Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. 14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise.

17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

18Therefore encourage one another with these words.
 
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1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.

"Death" must be seen in symbolic instead of literal terms.

The word is symbolically used to represent a geopolitical country, instead of "death" in a literal sense.

Please discuss.
Death is the dwelling place of the condemned.
Death is destroyed when the condemned is destroyed.
When the condemned is destroyed there will be no more death.
 
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Scripture trumps opinion...IMO.
Death is the absence of motivational life in the soul, and animating life in the body.

EZE 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins shall die.

Soul is not the combination of spirit and body/flesh. We are triune beings just like the GODS/ELOHIM that made Adam in the Garden.

GEN 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness;

'Spirit' is the determining factor of 'animating life for the body/flesh', or 'inanimate' body/flesh death.


JAM 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.

If you are led by the 'holy spirit of Christ in you', you will not sin or die. If you are led of the sinful natured flesh/body, which all have inherited from Adam you shall die.


SIN is DEATH on the installment plan.

JAM 1:15 Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown brings forth death.



EDIT P.S.

Evil spirits appeal to 'all that is in the flesh/body world' of a triune human. IOW They appeal to 'the lust of your sinful flesh' and they appeal to 'what you see' with the 'the lust of your eyes' And they also appeal to how you think the fleshly eyes of people in the world SEE YOU,' in your fleshly 'pride of life/bios'.

1JO 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the pride of life/bios, is not of the Father but is of the world.

Strongs 0979 bios: life, i.e. (lit.) the present state of existence; by impl. the means of livelihood

 
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Scripture trumps opinion...IMO.
Death is the absence of motivational life in the soul, and animating life in the body.

EZE 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins shall die.

Soul is not the combination of spirit and body/flesh. We are triune beings just like the GODS/ELOHIM that made Adam in the Garden.

GEN 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness;

'Spirit' is the determining factor of 'animating life for the body/flesh', or 'inanimate' body/flesh death.


JAM 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.

If you are led by the 'holy spirit of Christ in you', you will not sin or die. If you are led of the sinful natured flesh/body, which all have inherited from Adam you shall die.


SIN is DEATH on the installment plan.

JAM 1:15 Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown brings forth death.



EDIT P.S.

Evil spirits appeal to 'all that is in the flesh/body world' of a triune human. IOW They appeal to 'the lust of your sinful flesh' and they appeal to 'what you see' with the 'the lust of your eyes' And they also appeal to how you think the fleshly eyes of people in the world SEE YOU,' in your fleshly 'pride of life/bios'.

1JO 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the pride of life/bios, is not of the Father but is of the world.

Strongs 0979 bios: life, i.e. (lit.) the present state of existence; by impl. the means of livelihood
Humans are not triune, only the Godhead is triune. Your suggestion that the Creation (Man) is triune has no basis whatsoever in the Scripture.

That God created Man in his image doesn't imply that you may consider yourself a triune like the Godhead, because the divine nature of the Godhead is something unique, but you are not part of this.

No need to pretend that you are equal with the Godhead because you are not his equal. You are not on a par with Jesus Christ Son God and it is incorrect for you to presume it.

Why do you need salvation at all if you are equal to God?

There is nothing wrong with lust within the context of Holy matrimony.

According to the Scripture, God's opinion will always be superior to your own opinion (Isaiah 55:8-9).

Consequently, my viewpoint will always be superior to your viewpoint; and my opinion will always Trump your opinion.

Actually, I believe that the PRC has been Judged by God to be a vessel of destruction, but what are you going to do about it?
 
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Humans are not triune, only the Godhead is triune. Your suggestion that the Creation (Man) is triune has no basis whatsoever in the Scripture.
"Creation man" has the same three parts we do.
But you are entitled to your 'opinion', since that's all you posted. I'll just disagree disagree SCRIPTURALLY, if you don't mind. :holy:

1TH 5:23 May the God of peace himself sanctify you wholly; and may your spirit and soul and body be kept sound and blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

HEB 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and spirit, of joints and marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.


FYI....joints and marrow would be BODY parts.

That God created Man in his image doesn't imply that you may consider yourself a triune like the Godhead, because the divine nature of the Godhead is something unique, but you are not part of this.
When God created man HE wasn't a soul or body either. He was AND IS spirit.

JOH 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

When God created man He was spirit. The Father , the Word and the Holy Spirit were SPIRIT. When he created Adam, and when you were in the womb, the only thing in you that was of God's image and from Him was your SPIRIT.

ECC 11:5 As you do not know how the spirit comes to the bones in the womb of a woman with child, so you do not know the work of God who makes everything.

And, it would appear you also do not know the work of God who makes everything either....according to scripture. :idea:

No need to pretend that you are equal with the Godhead because you are not his equal. You are not on a par with Jesus Christ Son God and it is incorrect for you to presume it.

Why do you need salvation at all if you are equal to God?

Not only don't you know scripture, you don't even understand my posts in English. I never said anything about believing, what you are falsely accusing me of.

There is nothing wrong with lust within the context of Holy matrimony.
I can't wait to hear from the women here who have been raped by their husbands because they were refusing them sex. But that probably isn't going to happen.

According to the Scripture, God's opinion will always be superior to your own opinion (Isaiah 55:8-9).

Consequently, my viewpoint will always be superior to your viewpoint; and my opinion will always Trump your opinion.
I was always taken up short when I read the following verse. I always asked God to search my heart. I exhort you to do the same. And then reread all the scriptures I posted compared to all the 'OPINION' of your last post. :wave:

ROM 12:3 For by the grace given to me I bid every one among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith which God has assigned him.

Actually, I believe that the PRC has been Judged by God to be a vessel of destruction, but what are you going to do about it?
The same thing I'll do with you. Put you on my prayer list. :pray:

Goodnight.
 
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"Creation man" has the same three parts we do.
But you are entitled to your 'opinion', since that's all you posted. I'll just disagree disagree SCRIPTURALLY, if you don't mind. :holy:

1TH 5:23 May the God of peace himself sanctify you wholly; and may your spirit and soul and body be kept sound and blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

HEB 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and spirit, of joints and marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.


FYI....joints and marrow would be BODY parts.


When God created man HE wasn't a soul or body either. He was AND IS spirit.

JOH 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

When God created man He was spirit. The Father , the Word and the Holy Spirit were SPIRIT. When he created Adam, and when you were in the womb, the only thing in you that was of God's image and from Him was your SPIRIT.

ECC 11:5 As you do not know how the spirit comes to the bones in the womb of a woman with child, so you do not know the work of God who makes everything.

And, it would appear you also do not know the work of God who makes everything either....according to scripture. :idea:



Not only don't you know scripture, you don't even understand my posts in English. I never said anything about believing, what you are falsely accusing me of.


I can't wait to hear from the women here who have been raped by their husbands because they were refusing them sex. But that probably isn't going to happen.


I was always taken up short when I read the following verse. I always asked God to search my heart. I exhort you to do the same. And then reread all the scriptures I posted compared to all the 'OPINION' of your last post. :wave:

ROM 12:3 For by the grace given to me I bid every one among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith which God has assigned him.


The same thing I'll do with you. Put you on my prayer list. :pray:

Goodnight.
As always, you still insist that I am not the Son of God and have therefore committed blasphemy by doing so.

For it is a sin to deny the divinity of the Son of God, which is what your government are guilty of doing.

My opinion is not merely the viewpoint of mere mortals, but it represents God's viewpoint, whether you like it or not. John 10:30, 14:7 & Colossians 2:9

Actually, my English is incomparably better than yours because my late Father was Prince Philip the Duke of Edinburgh (directly descended from 4 Russian Tsars, 6 British Monarchs, and Prince William of Orange, etc), which is far superior to the peasant lineage of this Third world dictator.

You have no right to presume that your English is better than mine because I have a distinctive European Christian heritage, whereas you don't.

The people in your country do not have any Christian heritage at all and you should be ashamed.

By definition, you are vastly inferior to the Son of God, but you need to come to terms with the fact that your country was never good enough to be considered the global epicenter of Christianity.

Not only is it arrogant, but also presumptuous for you to believe that such an inferior country could ever be the global epicenter (Over N. America and Europe!? Don't make me laugh!!!).
 
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As always, you still insist that I am not the Son of God and have therefore committed blasphemy by doing so.
I have not said that and I have not committed anything.
For it is a sin to deny the divinity of the Son of God, which is what your government are guilty of doing.

My opinion is not merely the viewpoint of mere mortals, but it represents God's viewpoint, whether you like it or not. John 10:30, 14:7 & Colossians 2:9
You've refuted NOTHING I've posted.

Actually, my English is incomparably better than yours because my late Father was Prince Philip the Duke of Edinburgh (directly descended from 4 Russian Tsars, 6 British Monarchs, and Prince William of Orange, etc), which is far superior to the peasant lineage of this Third world dictator.

You have no right to presume that your English is better than mine because I have a distinctive European Christian heritage, whereas you don't.

The people in your country do not have any Christian heritage at all and you should be ashamed.

By definition, you are vastly inferior to the Son of God, but you need to come to terms with the fact that your country was never good enough to be considered the global epicenter of Christianity.

You are not your father or your relatives, whoever they are. And my scriptures still trumped your 'opinion only' posts. Please note PLURAL... now.

Not only is it arrogant, but also presumptuous for you to believe that such an inferior country could ever be the global epicenter (Over N. America and Europe!? Don't make me laugh!!!).
Would a man of proper breeding fall so short, in discerning the difference between "arrogance"... and 'ASSURANCE, both in Christ and in scripture?' I would hope not

But alas, again I say goodnight. I am in America and it's midnight. :wave:
 
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I have not said that and I have not committed anything.
Wrong. You've insinuated that I am not the Son of God, and therefore committed blasphemy (whether you like it or not).

You've refuted NOTHING I've posted.
Wrong. I have refuted every word you've posted, whether you like it or not.

You are not your father or your relatives, whoever they are. And my scriptures still trumped your 'opinion only' posts. Please note PLURAL... now.
They are my own flesh and blood, whereas you are not.

They are not your scripture at all because Christianity was never part of your heritage. The scripture cannot trump my viewpoint because I am the Son of God. Are you retarded?

Would a man of proper breeding fall so short, in discerning the difference between "arrogance"... and 'ASSURANCE, both in Christ and in scripture?' I would hope not
But I will always look down on you because you're not a European.

But alas, again I say goodnight. I am in America and it's midnight.
America is not your country at all because your family are Third world migrants and therefore inferior to the Wasps.
 
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But I will always look down on you because you're not a European.

America is not your country at all because your family are Third world migrants and therefore inferior to the Wasps.

What biblical verses inspired these noble thoughts?

And what have you got against wasps? Did you get stung as a baby?
 
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What biblical verses inspired these noble thoughts?

And what have you got against wasps? Did you get stung as a baby?
Read it carefully. My commentary has never disparaged the Wasps in anyway whatsoever.
 
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Read it carefully. My commentary has never disparaged the Wasps in anyway whatsoever.

Having said that, the lesson of history has taught that the dominant status group in Europe (or the world, generally) hasn't always been the same country (or the same ethnic group), and Wasps have only been dominant in the last 300 years since the War of the Spanish Succession in 1701 to 1714.

They haven't always been dominant and there is no reason to assume that they would continue to dominate the Western world for indefinite.

[Whatever country dominates the Western world would also dominate the global power politics of the entire world.]

Are you okay? Seriously.
 
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Humans are not triune, only the Godhead is triune. Your suggestion that the Creation (Man) is triune has no basis whatsoever in the Scripture.
That God created Man in his image doesn't imply that you may consider yourself a triune like the Godhead, because the divine nature of the Godhead is something unique, but you are not part of this.
No need to pretend that you are equal with the Godhead because you are not his equal. You are not on a par with Jesus Christ Son God and it is incorrect for you to presume it.
Why do you need salvation at all if you are equal to God?
There is nothing wrong with lust within the context of Holy matrimony.
Actually, there is. . .lust, by definition, is inordinate and matrimony doesn't change that.
According to the Scripture, God's opinion will always be superior to your own opinion (Isaiah 55:8-9).

Consequently, my viewpoint will always be superior to your viewpoint; and my opinion will always Trump your opinion.

Actually, I believe that the PRC has been Judged by God to be a vessel of destruction, but what are you going to do about it?
 
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I don't feel there is anything more to say to you, save your last sentence.
America is not your country at all because your family are Third world migrants and therefore inferior to the Wasps.
FYI, you are wrong AGAIN. I am Third generation GERMAN. And my dad fought in the battle of the bulge saving your illustrious forefathers FRENCH "hinderparts" by 'smoting your enemies in their hinder parts.' in WW11.

PSA 78:66 And he smote his enemies in the hinder parts: he put them to a perpetual reproach.

He never got out of that freezing tank except to relieve himself along with the rest of the crew. They had a foot of ice in the floor of the tank at the end of that 30 days from the condensation of their breath. They had an armor piercing round go clear through his tank one time and it was blown on its side by Nazi flak 88 artillery rounds another time. Everybody assumed them dead. They were not. They tipped the tank back over and he/they kept fighting. He had to quit a job here in AMERICA working for Bowing because the impact wrenches so reminded him of machine gun bullets bouncing off the tank. After suffering ptsd from it for a year he couldn't take it anymore.

So, I say all that, to say this; YOU"RE WELCOME Mr. Bouan. And, other than that, I have nothing more to say to you. Enjoy your life....because I certainly couldn't, based upon 'out of the heart, a man types'.:wave::wave::wave:

 
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