Biden rides fuel-guzzling limo while trumpeting electric cars, climate change agenda

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Often enough to be annoying. I get it from people who drive electric cars; and I explain to them that it requires more energy to operate them, than if they just burnt the gasoline. Oddly I get from people who are driving gasoline powered cars too. Maybe they've been taking lessons from Biden.
I'm no really sure of the energy difference but it is likely that battery powered cars are more efficient with energy than gas cars because of two reasons: 1)They are a lot lighter and 2)Gas motors are not very efficient a lot of power is lost in heat I think I once read they are maybe 20 something percent efficient. I don't know how efficient electric cars are but some have a neat feature that in braking they use the motors somehow to generate some power to recharge the batteries some.
The big problem with electric vehicles are:
1)short range before needing recharge
2)Recharge time cannot match the time to refill a gas tank
3)An electric car that runs out of power you can't just go get a battery to power it enough to get it to a charging station
4)Charging stations aren't everywhere and charging at home may require purchasing a charging station which could cost more than you think
5)Batteries over time wear out and need replacing and a battery "set" I've heard can cost more than some used gas powered cars and without a new battery the car is.... unusable. It is likely as the battery ages the performance and range suffers so if you are used to the car getting 50 miles per charge you could find it 6 years later only getting 25 miles per charge and that may not "get you there" so you have to replace the battery or stop and charge half way to your destination
6)In power outages you cannot recharge your electric car. You can use the power in it though while a gas powered car can still run without a grid if you can find gas for it. If I had an electric car in 2007 here I would be in a picikle as 4 days no power and I used the car to get food and supplies and recharge batteries I used at night here every day.
7)Electric cars will likely raise your electric bill considerably and as more and more electric cars depend on the power grid electric companies will have to spend billions and billions to upgrade everything from wiring on poles to larger feeder lines and bigger poles and more power stations and switching network and personnel to operate stuff. When electric companies have to spend money..... you have to pay for it nothing is free so even if you have a gas car everyone else who is going electric you are subsidizing their need for a larger grid (your bill will increase and you basically get nothing in return if you still use a gas car. Prices per KWH likely will go up.
8)It is possible some politician will invent a utility tax to pay for whatever their pet project is (maybe subsidizing electric cars for poor folks) so that could add to higher bills. We could see electric bills double over this electric car stuff.
 
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That's a great argument! I'll use that one for my own vehicle, the next time someone suggests that I should switch to electric.

I drive an environmentally friendly vehicle compared to Biden's diesel guzzling super tanker, which belches 25 to 400 times more soot per mile, than gasoline.

From the article you linked:

"White House press secretary Jen Psaki said the president wants to some day have an electric-powered Beast.

“That is certainly our objective,” she told reporters traveling on Air Force One. “That’s certainly something the president has talked about and is an objective for him.”

Ms. Psaki shrugged off questions about the irony of Mr. Biden traveling in a gas-guzzler to the electric vehicle plant.

“I think it’s going to take some time to continue to grow the electric vehicle industry in our country. That’s why the president believes there needs to be a historic investment,” she said"
 
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The "need" to make electric vehicles the "norm" is a breakthrough in battery technology that is the biggest issue
batteries are too expensive and don't last long enough and don't store enough power to suffice for a lot of jobs where traveling distances are a huge stumbling block.
 
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Shock! Biden still living in energy guzzling White House! How dare he not have demolished it and built a 2 bedroom bungalow out of all recycled materials etc.

**Biden demolishes white house and builds a 2 bedroom bungalow out of recycled materials**

"Biden wastes energy by demolishing a perfectly usable White House and replacing it using all new materials. Carbon costs of outright replacement drastically higher than White House energy usage would have been for the next several decades"
 
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Here we find ourselves in the depths of the bland normalcy wastelands. Observe, from a safe distance, the partisan hacks desperately trying to scratch out an exitance in this harsh land.
 
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**Biden demolishes white house and builds a 2 bedroom bungalow out of recycled materials**

"Biden wastes energy by demolishing a perfectly usable White House and replacing it using all new materials. Carbon costs of outright replacement drastically higher than White House energy usage would have been for the next several decades"
he could just turn the lights off and use only a couple of rooms
 
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Didnt Biden try that last year and Republicans got all upset about that too?
seeing how he didn't live there I would be upset too if someone tried to come into my house and turn off all the lights.
 
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seeing how he didn't live there I would be upset too if someone tried to come into my house and turn off all the lights.

I meant Republicans were accusing Biden of hiding in his basement last year :p
 
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President Biden, riding in a fossil fuel-guzzling armored limousine known as the Beast, arrived Tuesday at a Ford Motor Co. electric vehicle plant to showcase his zero-emissions agenda.
maybe he went to Ford's EV plant to place an order for an EV lincoln?
 
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I drive an environmentally friendly vehicle compared to Biden's diesel guzzling super tanker, which belches 25 to 400 times more soot per mile, than gasoline.
Because diesels are more efficient, they do in fact emit less carbon dioxide than gasoline engines. Diesel fuel contains about 12 percent more energy per gallon than ordinary gasoline, and about 16 percent more energy than gasoline that contains ethanol.

In some respects, the newer diesel engines are actually cleaner than gasoline engines, and their visible emissions are less dangerous than the invisible ones sneaking out of gas engines, according to a new study published in Scientific Reports that was carried out by Canadian, European, and U.S. scientists. Unlike older diesel engines, the newer ones are equipped with diesel particle filters that trap most of that obnoxious particulate matter. ...
However, the amount of nitrogen oxide emitted from diesels remains a problem.
Do Diesel Engines Produce Less CO2 Than Regular Engines?
 
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You have been here 10 years, you know the drill.

Sheesh I didnt realize it has been 11 Years! I had been the EO moderator on Beliefnet back in the 2000s but they changed everything around.
 
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And have you seen the size of his house?!

Whata total hypocrite.

And a personal cook, and security people. Heck he even flies on his own modified 747! This is one of them flying over our house!
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President Biden, riding in a fossil fuel-guzzling armored limousine known as the Beast, arrived Tuesday at a Ford Motor Co. electric vehicle plant to showcase his zero-emissions agenda.

Biden rides fuel-guzzling limo while trumpeting electric cars, climate change agenda

We have to bear in mind that relatively few people were going to see that limo and also realize whom it was carrying.

Compare that to Biden's speeches that feature him deliberately and very slowly playing with his face mask. On these occasions, staff knows that national TV will cover it and that the whole country is likely to have a view of the President.
 
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