COVERING THE PLANET IN FORESTS STILL WOULDN’T STOP CLIMATE CHANGE

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This is a joke.

There are aliens on the dark side of the moon, there are photographs of their buildings!!!!
No.

Someone made a good point about UFO's recently. The world is full of smart phones now with instant camera action available, yet no mass streaming of UFO sightings?

It is all just miss-placed sightings and anomalies which add up to nothing.
Control of the weather?????

We are victims of the weather not controllers. God bless you

Each has their right to their opinion. Your opinion is arguing with the Smithsonian Institute, since that was the source I posted. If I had a copy of the GPO weather research document Dr. Gene Scott read from on the air from his programming, I'd give you the library of congress number to look it up, for I'm sure it's registered being a GPO document.
 
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Each has their right to their opinion. Your opinion is arguing with the Smithsonian Institute, since that was the source I posted. If I had a copy of the GPO weather research document Dr. Gene Scott read from on the air from his programming, I'd give you the library of congress number to look it up, for I'm sure it's registered being a GPO document.

I am not arguing with any institute. I am putting a simple case forward that climate change is here.
Clearly you want to look at historical data and articles that support other explanations to climate change for weather effects etc. And as with all science there will be evidence that changes occur for other reasons than mans influence on the climate. This is already accepted by scientists.

The question is are we happy with the melting of the ice caps, artic and antartic, and can we do anything to help slow or stop this process?

It is obvious this is happening from photographs that show around the world glaciers retreating or disappearing. We know these issues change land use, leisure activities, skiing, mountain climbing etc.
Everest for instance is now becoming more and more dangerous. And the conclusion is we can help by reducing carbon emissions.

We know from studying venus, a run away greenhouse affect could destroy our planet.
As this is a christian forum, there are those who would suggest existence is only 6000 years old.
So there are no trends or outcomes that can be drawn or responsibilities towards the environment. For some the world is a disk, and a global conspiracy fakes GPS, the international space station, trips to Mars, Space X etc. But clearly such folk are mad. Mobile phones and the internet work because the world is round and we have laid cables around it, and use it daily. GPS shows you on navigation software where the satellites are, which shows you reality verses nutcase propositions.

So I can assume nothing about the wide framework people are talking from, but if one holds the world is flat and everything a conspiracy, nothing I share will matter at all.........

God bless you
 
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I am not arguing with any institute. I am putting a simple case forward that climate change is here.
Clearly you want to look at historical data and articles that support other explanations to climate change for weather effects etc. And as with all science there will be evidence that changes occur for other reasons than mans influence on the climate. This is already accepted by scientists.

If there's data that suggests other things are, or have been going on to affect today's weather, then denying its existence is merely like sticking one's head in the sand. The Smithsonian Institute outlined that kind of research and even certain results from its effect. So if you want to deny that data, then it means your climate change opinion is just that, an opinion, especially since you have no data to support it.
 
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If there's data that suggests other things are, or have been going on to affect today's weather, then denying its existence is merely like sticking one's head in the sand. The Smithsonian Institute outlined that kind of research and even certain results from its effect. So if you want to deny that data, then it means your climate change opinion is just that, an opinion, especially since you have no data to support it.

I find this statement interesting, "you have no data to support it."

There is so much data governments, scientists no longer deny climate change, the disagree on the speed and likely outcomes. In a forum with just a few sentences to make a point, there is no point saying what in specific terms wins the argument, just that the argument has been won.

What is indicative to me, is how people want to hold an opposite position, and seem to be emotionally wed to the proposition no matter the facts involved. It is like saying if you cut down all the trees in the world there would be no affect on the climate or environment.

Once one understands it will have an affect, the question then becomes how much and how do we measure it. After making measurements, scientists concluded, yes loosing 50% of all trees has had an affect and it is accelerating. Science relies on two things. A proposition and evidence to show it is true or false. It is a repeatable test so that everyone can confirm the facts, so it is no personal opinion just truth, as far as we can understand it.

If one denies the process or the results, there is no argument, because this is just metaphysics, belief founded only on opinion.

If readers want to learn the scientific method and its results, then they will understand why governments accept climate change is real. Sadly, the reason we are all alive now, is probably because this is the boom before the bust, 7 billion lights of life alive at the same time.

God bless you
 
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I find this statement interesting, "you have no data to support it."

There is so much data governments, scientists no longer deny climate change, the disagree on the speed and likely outcomes. In a forum with just a few sentences to make a point, there is no point saying what in specific terms wins the argument, just that the argument has been won.

What is indicative to me, is how people want to hold an opposite position, and seem to be emotionally wed to the proposition no matter the facts involved. It is like saying if you cut down all the trees in the world there would be no affect on the climate or environment.

Once one understands it will have an affect, the question then becomes how much and how do we measure it. After making measurements, scientists concluded, yes loosing 50% of all trees has had an affect and it is accelerating. Science relies on two things. A proposition and evidence to show it is true or false. It is a repeatable test so that everyone can confirm the facts, so it is no personal opinion just truth, as far as we can understand it.

If one denies the process or the results, there is no argument, because this is just metaphysics, belief founded only on opinion.

If readers want to learn the scientific method and its results, then they will understand why governments accept climate change is real. Sadly, the reason we are all alive now, is probably because this is the boom before the bust, 7 billion lights of life alive at the same time.

God bless you

The scientists that first proposed the theory later said they didn't have data to support it was happening.

NOAA Scientists Falsify Data to Dupe World Leaders on Climate Change
 
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The scientists that first proposed the theory later said they didn't have data to support it was happening.

NOAA Scientists Falsify Data to Dupe World Leaders on Climate Change

Let us put things simply.
The ten hottest recorded summers worldwide
2016, 2020, 2019, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2014, 2010, 2013 and 2005 (tied)

The graph for sea level rise has been consistent since 1880, which ties in with modern industrialisation and burning of coal.
Climate Change: Global Sea Level | NOAA Climate.gov

Glaciers have been retreating since 1850
Retreat of glaciers since 1850 - Wikipedia

CO2 level rising between 1970 and today has risen by 28%.
https://www.climate.gov/news-featur... rate of increase,age 11,000-17,000 years ago.

Now put simply things are speeding up and not slowing down.
It is like a slow motion crash. If everything is speeding up and we know methane in Siberia is stored in the permafrost and is now being released through melting, we know things are likely to get worse pretty quickly, unless we can start to get things under control. Put simply it is probably impossible, but until you try you do not know. And what is at stake is our childrens futures, so I am willing to do everything that is reasonable. With technology, put simply, theoretically nothing is impossible if we gain the right knowledge. As an expression of our love through Christ for our fellow man, to help in food crisis, destruction of homes, lively hoods etc. working on solutions is truly a calling of God.

God bless you
 
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