Arizona Senate Intends to Hand-Count 2.1M Maricopa County 2020 Ballots; Not Clear How

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Yesterday, observers from my office discovered a WiFi router connected to the "audit" servers. There’s no way to ensure that ballot images, vote counts, & perhaps voter data weren’t connected to external networks or the internet.

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No wireless was ever enabled. This was explicitly explained to the SoS observers on site. We are open to providing all passwords and access needed for a forensic investigation of the router if requested.
 
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Same day registration with no identification cannot be verified.
Why? Why do you think it can't be?

Sending out unsolicited ballots or having unmanned drop boxes for ballots is not secure.
Why? Tell me exactly what you're afraid of is going to happen, and why you think there's no protection against it.

Let those who are disabled vote by mail, for healthy Americans there is no reason you can't go to your local voting location.

Prior to 2020, several states were, more or less, mail-in only. Other at least offered it, and in some of them you don't even need an excuse. Mail-in voting is not a new concept, it's been around for over a hundred years.

It's never been a problem before, why is it such a big deal now?

Also, there are a lot of reasons besides health issues that I might not be able to go over to my local polling place. For instance, not being in my state at the time for whatever reason, not having a car, just not wanting to be around people, et cetera.
 
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I have zero problems with more ways to vote as long as those methods are secure. That means to me each citizen votes once and only once and only those votes are counted. Same day registration with no identification cannot be verified. Sending out unsolicited ballots or having unmanned drop boxes for ballots is not secure.
Let those who are disabled vote by mail, for healthy Americans there is no reason you can't go to your local voting location. (Contrary to press statements, you can bring food and water with you or order a pizza while you are in line if you are concerned about starving.)
There are plenty of reasons you can't vote in person, particularly when the GOP is purposefully making it harder to vote in your areas.

We've been doing mail in for literally over a century.
 
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Yesterday, observers from my office discovered a WiFi router connected to the "audit" servers. There’s no way to ensure that ballot images, vote counts, & perhaps voter data weren’t connected to external networks or the internet.

Maricopa Arizona Audit
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No wireless was ever enabled. This was explicitly explained to the SoS observers on site. We are open to providing all passwords and access needed for a forensic investigation of the router if requested.

Have you seen my ballot yet? ^_^
 
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There are plenty of reasons you can't vote in person, particularly when the GOP is purposefully making it harder to vote in your areas.

We've been doing mail in for literally over a century.
Propaganda. The GOP does not want to make it harder to vote, they want voter integrity--no, they are not racists as so many left wingers claim. Remember that the Democrats have a long history of racism, from the Confederacy to President Roosevelt imprisoning American citizens of Japanese descent to Joe Biden standing with KKK leader Robert Byrd in denying blacks the opportunity to enroll in white schools. So those on the left are using a fake racism narrative, drumming up emotions, the same as they do for our police heroes.
 
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Yesterday, observers from my office discovered a WiFi router connected to the "audit" servers. There’s no way to ensure that ballot images, vote counts, & perhaps voter data weren’t connected to external networks or the internet.

Maricopa Arizona Audit
@ArizonaAudit

No wireless was ever enabled. This was explicitly explained to the SoS observers on site. We are open to providing all passwords and access needed for a forensic investigation of the router if requested.
Excellent. Remember the initial claims around the country that no election machines were hooked up to the Internet, that turned out to be false. We need to make sure that none can be accessed on election day.
 
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They are taking extreme measures to video record the entire process, you can watch in real time online. Do you have any evidence to question their integrity?
I do. They were told they could not use blue/black/ or red ink pens so they are suppose to be using green. Yesterday I saw a close up photo one of them had a green ink pen in they hand but there was a red one laying right next to them on the table.

The tried to keep the press out but they lost that one.

AND election observers had to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement. That is directly against the job of the election observer, they are there for the whole purpose of transparancy.
 
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I have zero problems with more ways to vote as long as those methods are secure. That means to me each citizen votes once and only once and only those votes are counted. Same day registration with no identification cannot be verified. Sending out unsolicited ballots or having unmanned drop boxes for ballots is not secure.
Let those who are disabled vote by mail, for healthy Americans there is no reason you can't go to your local voting location. (Contrary to press statements, you can bring food and water with you or order a pizza while you are in line if you are concerned about starving.)

Time to back up your statements and not just spew things out.

One, where is same day registration allowed with no identification? Actual proof is needed from an official state site claiming such. I strongly suspect any same day registeration is provisional depending on ID.

Two, where were ballots sent out automatically without a request? Request applications were sent out in Michigan that I know of, but that is not a ballot.
Provide proof - not just claims - but actual documentation of it done on purpose.

Arizona could have sent out applications to everyone like Michigan did, but then Arizona allows absentee ballots by any registered Arizona voter per the state constitution. State Republicans really wanted that back in 2018.
 
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Propaganda. The GOP does not want to make it harder to vote, they want voter integrity--no, they are not racists as so many left wingers claim. Remember that the Democrats have a long history of racism, from the Confederacy to President Roosevelt imprisoning American citizens of Japanese descent to Joe Biden standing with KKK leader Robert Byrd in denying blacks the opportunity to enroll in white schools. So those on the left are using a fake racism narrative, drumming up emotions, the same as they do for our police heroes.

I see you did not disappoint by still not addressing several of the points brought up here pointing out your lying and instead continuing to change the topic.

My guess is that in the following posts you will either ignore those points again, change the topic of your post again and then claim that it's related without addressing the original point, claim that it's just propaganda or addressed already without having done so, or a mixture of these. But what will not happen is an actual addressing and replying to a specific point made about misinformation or out right lies in your posts.
 
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Let those who are disabled vote by mail, for healthy Americans there is no reason you can't go to your local voting location.
I don't either if there are easily accessible polling locations and enough of them so people aren't standing in line for hours and hours.
But there are other people who have diffcultly with voting at the polls, such as parents/grandparents/caregivers with children who don't have anyone to watch their children. There are people who can't afford to take time off work to stand in line for hours so they need several days of early voting in order to vote at the polls.
Sending out unsolicited ballots
Colorado sends mail-in ballots to all registered voters.
Weld County, CO is a very Red Republican county...

Carly Koppes, Weld County’s clerk and recorder, cited three key components that protect the integrity of Colorado’s mail-in election:.

  • An up-to-date voter registration list allows each voter to receive a ballot.
  • A thorough signature-verification process ensures that only an eligible voter has their vote counted.
  • A risk-limiting audit checks that the election results were tabulated correctly.
Colorado and 29 other states work with the Electronic Registration Information Center to cross-match deceased voters, address changes and possible duplicate files. This results in a well-maintained voter registration list that ensures each voter gets a ballot in their mailbox.
Here's a look at the security precautions in Colorado's mail-in ballot system

Mail-in Ballots FAQs
having unmanned drop boxes for ballots is not secure.
They are just as or more secure than a USPS mail postal drop boxes which most of us trust to send are bills, letters, etc. Hidden cameras are trained on most boxes.
 
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I have zero problems with more ways to vote as long as those methods are secure.
Everything else you have said in this thread is contrary to this statement. Why do you want to make it harder for people to vote?
 
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Propaganda. The GOP does not want to make it harder to vote, they want voter integrity--no, they are not racists as so many left wingers claim. Remember that the Democrats have a long history of racism, from the Confederacy to President Roosevelt imprisoning American citizens of Japanese descent to Joe Biden standing with KKK leader Robert Byrd in denying blacks the opportunity to enroll in white schools. So those on the left are using a fake racism narrative, drumming up emotions, the same as they do for our police heroes.
Except they have literally outlawed handing out food/water to people waiting in the long lines they have made.

They forced Harris county, a blue 4 million population county to have a single ballot box, while ones a fraction of the size enjoyed a magnitude more.

The democrat and republican parties of the past are not the same. The GOP went after the racist vote in the southern strategy and got it, you can see it plain as day in the election results:

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The only thing they didn't count on is the black vote abandoning them for their treachery for a new democratic party. This brought us into the modern era of politics.
 
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I'm not a Republican.

According to House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, you're not anybody.

“I don’t think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election. I think that is all over with."
 
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You might want to point that out to Republicans who are saying it should be harder to vote.
I value the truth, which too often is not what Republicans or Democrats have to say. Read H.R. 1 for yourself. Hold people accountable. In all my years of dealing with corruption in government, the major problem is lack of accountability. Too many good people stood by while whistleblowers were booted out and the dishonest were promoted, now we have entrenched corruption in the government.
 
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...lovely. This circus will last all summer....

The Arizona Senate-ordered audit of Maricopa County's general election will take a one-week hiatus at the end of the week to make way for high school graduations at Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix.

The plan is to move the ballots and equipment to another area of the Arizona State Fairgrounds on Friday and move back in May 23 to pick back up on May 24.

The hand recount of the presidential and U.S. Senate races on the county's nearly 2.1 million ballots began April 23 and initially was expected to wrap up at the end of this week. It is nowhere near on pace for that to happen.


Arizona election audit: Senate-ordered count will take 1-week hiatus
 
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