In a battle

now faith said:

those close to me simply do not believe in the Heavens, and can see no further than the temporal world ... needs for the people around me to stop denying its presence. I want them to partner in faith with me. instead tonight I was called weird.

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Jesus of Nazareth was called worse than "weird". Individual Christians are obliged only to announce God's kingdom to the world and the need for belief in his son, Jesus Christ, and the need for repentance. People will partner with you in these things only if it is God's will -- he does the heavy lifting not you. Pray for real revival in your area to get your wish ...

now faith said:

Hello All, I have a question.
Have any of the gifted people including Prophets found themselves isolated.
I do have gifts from God, I seek Wisdom, and have had interaction with God's kingdom and the darkness as well since I was a boy, I am 60 years old now.
Maturity comes with a price, I cannot advise seeking earnestly the knowledge of Gods Kingdom, unless you are prepared to be challenged.
For months now I have been bothered by a unclean spirit.
God answers my prayers for understanding, but those close to me simply do not believe in the Heavens, and can see no further than the temporal world.
I was instructed to stop and observe, not to convince anyone of the life that abounds in our Spirit .
I ask,for prayer from you, because I did not obey.
I spoke of things that I see clearly,and recieved a rebuke for it.
They simply will not heed the warnings of the Holy Spirit.
I repented, I ask for prayer in agreement that the spirituality blind around me have their eyes opened to what is clearly seen.
I love the Lord God with all my Heart, and spend every day pressing in to him.
what I see working , needs for the people around me to stop denying its presence.
I want them to partner in faith with me.
instead tonight I was called weird.
Thank you in advance.

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The Bible says "Love hopes all things", we know that God is love. He will not give up easily on the ones around you. As the Father waits for the Prodigal to return, so He waits for their turning.

But even God, can't make that choice for them, they need to take steps toward Him.

now faith said:

Hello All, I have a question.
Have any of the gifted people including Prophets found themselves isolated.
I do have gifts from God, I seek Wisdom, and have had interaction with God's kingdom and the darkness as well since I was a boy, I am 60 years old now.
Maturity comes with a price, I cannot advise seeking earnestly the knowledge of Gods Kingdom, unless you are prepared to be challenged.
For months now I have been bothered by a unclean spirit.
God answers my prayers for understanding, but those close to me simply do not believe in the Heavens, and can see no further than the temporal world.
I was instructed to stop and observe, not to convince anyone of the life that abounds in our Spirit .
I ask,for prayer from you, because I did not obey.
I spoke of things that I see clearly,and recieved a rebuke for it.
They simply will not heed the warnings of the Holy Spirit.
I repented, I ask for prayer in agreement that the spirituality blind around me have their eyes opened to what is clearly seen.
I love the Lord God with all my Heart, and spend every day pressing in to him.
what I see working , needs for the people around me to stop denying its presence.
I want them to partner in faith with me.
instead tonight I was called weird.
Thank you in advance.

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I have known this for many decades, particularly from the church.
I've been either thrown out with extreme prejudice, or undergone constructively dismissal from at least 4 churches.
I knew each time that it was demons who were stirring up the leadership to get rid of me as a thorn in the flesh.
Demons hate anyone who can prophetically see what they are doing.

now faith said:

Hello All, I have a question.
Have any of the gifted people including Prophets found themselves isolated.
I do have gifts from God, I seek Wisdom, and have had interaction with God's kingdom and the darkness as well since I was a boy, I am 60 years old now.
Maturity comes with a price, I cannot advise seeking earnestly the knowledge of Gods Kingdom, unless you are prepared to be challenged.
For months now I have been bothered by a unclean spirit.
God answers my prayers for understanding, but those close to me simply do not believe in the Heavens, and can see no further than the temporal world.
I was instructed to stop and observe, not to convince anyone of the life that abounds in our Spirit .
I ask,for prayer from you, because I did not obey.
I spoke of things that I see clearly,and recieved a rebuke for it.
They simply will not heed the warnings of the Holy Spirit.
I repented, I ask for prayer in agreement that the spirituality blind around me have their eyes opened to what is clearly seen.
I love the Lord God with all my Heart, and spend every day pressing in to him.
what I see working , needs for the people around me to stop denying its presence.
I want them to partner in faith with me.
instead tonight I was called weird.
Thank you in advance.

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"..but those...can see no further than the temporal world."
- Good point.
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It is difficult to persuade/convince them..
- They are not interested in..going further.
More spiritual discernment is needed...
- When you get into..discussion with them.

now faith said:

Yes and their always hidden from the view of closed spiritual eyes.

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And they are usually in bed with the leadership, or the close acolytes of the leadership.

Hello All, I'm new here, but want to share! God revealed to me what I had been doing, with an extreme lack of understanding about certain churches and leaders and those that are committed to them. I had to make a decision and leave due to extreme legalism, which was full of hypocrisy. What's done in the flesh was more important than what was done from the heart. Not only that, the law was being practiced, and only four or five ordinances were being observed, discounting all of the other laws given to Moses, which of course we cannot observe. The Bible says if you offend in one, then you offend in all, thus placing ourselves under the course of the law. I just could not wrap my mind around how many members could not see that we had no right to decide which of God's laws to keep, while not being able to keep the other laws. It was even decided that because certain of the unclean laws were difficult to keep, which only two or three were kept, they would be relaxed. That church had decided and notified members by letter that the washing and separation practices relating to the unclean law of childbirth could be relaxed and a few others. What an abomination to the Lord. No human person has the right to dictate how God's law should be adhered to.

And during the teachings, scriptures relating to the Promise to Abraham, which came before the law, and is the promised made for the salvation of the Gentiles and the Jews, which cannot can disannuled Galatians 3:17, God opened my eyes and showed me that the different teachers deliberately skipped over that scriptures and refused to teach it to the people. This was an out-and-out denial of Christ. I was already on the verge of panic each time I attended the church service. I found myself very disturbed, extremely disturbed in my spirit. I was so disturbed that I found myself praying all the way there for God to calm me. I found myself getting angry at the teachers for teaching the scriptures falsely, denying the love and grace of God, and using Christ for only a sacrifice, like an animal, saying we can keep the laws but without the sacrifice, thus without the animal. This is horrible. I see it as so horrible and so misleading of the people. This teaching took away that our life is in Christ, and He is Lord over the Sabbath, and He is all in all. We need not practice the laws because by his blood, we are forgiven, and that the law was nailed to the Cross because Israel could not keep it, and we cannot keep it. The law is good, but we are not and cannot be holy before God. The teaching thought we were holy because of what we did. Yet, I saw so called leaders, continue to lie, be dishonest, distort the truth, stand arrogant due to their positions, steal, back-stab, etc. The Holy Spirit was being taught that it was our consciousness speaking to us. That there was no spirit that dwells inside of us. Denying the earnest of the Spirit as our inheritance in Christ. Denying we must put off the old man, and walk in the Spirit; and denying Christ who dwells in us to perfect us and strengthen our inner man, where Paul says, I'm in travel until Christ be formed in you, and many more places in the gospel that speaks to this.

I had a very difficult time. My heart was heavy, but when God clearly showed me, I immediately left no questions asked, no hesitation, giving up all. All so called friends. Even tough I was being hated, talked about, made to look like a trouble maker, and even when I tried to show the truth in the gospel and those scriptures were manipulated, I did not immediately leave. I thank God that I made the decision to leave when I saw the true denial of Christ and that my leaving was not based on self, what I thought should be done wright or wrong. I really did leave because of Christ and my heart is clear on that. I want to cry because I thank God for showing me. What if I had left because I felt I wasn't liked, knowing Christ was not being preached. I need God's help to help me pray for these people. I'm working on that. I saw a lot of hate and deceit, and first I need God to removed the effects to my spirit and soul from being around such evil. It was the teaching that brought about the evil. Yet, God has helped me greatly, and I have grown. I pray to love all men and to never have hate in my heart for anyone.

I pray that God will bless us and fill us up with the fruits of the Spirit, love, joy, kindness, charity, and be strong in the Spirit. Be given from Heaven His most precious goodness, love, power, and to be able to see Christ, with love and assurance, and that our minds and hearts be only fixed on Christ, and to understand and be given revelation. That we be changed in Christ! God Bless you!

now faith said:

Hello All, I have a question.
Have any of the gifted people including Prophets found themselves isolated.
I do have gifts from God, I seek Wisdom, and have had interaction with God's kingdom and the darkness as well since I was a boy, I am 60 years old now.
Maturity comes with a price, I cannot advise seeking earnestly the knowledge of Gods Kingdom, unless you are prepared to be challenged.
For months now I have been bothered by a unclean spirit.
God answers my prayers for understanding, but those close to me simply do not believe in the Heavens, and can see no further than the temporal world.
I was instructed to stop and observe, not to convince anyone of the life that abounds in our Spirit .
I ask,for prayer from you, because I did not obey.
I spoke of things that I see clearly,and recieved a rebuke for it.
They simply will not heed the warnings of the Holy Spirit.
I repented, I ask for prayer in agreement that the spirituality blind around me have their eyes opened to what is clearly seen.
I love the Lord God with all my Heart, and spend every day pressing in to him.
what I see working , needs for the people around me to stop denying its presence.
I want them to partner in faith with me.
instead tonight I was called weird.
Thank you in advance.

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Dear one,
we have heard:

For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, walk as enemies of the cross of Christ. -Philippians 3:18
Their end is destruction, their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things. -Philippians 3:19
But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, -Philippians 3:20
who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself. -Philippians 3:21

So dear one,
even though many minds set on earthly things, let us weep for them.

For we also heard :
I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. -John 17:9

Dear one,
Though we may weep, let us pray for them whom the Lord have given us, for they are the Lord’s.

Likewise, we heard:
for I know that through your prayers and the help of the Spirit of Jesus Christ this will turn out for my DELIVERANCE, -Philippians 1:19

Also, we heard:
From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer. -2 Corinthians 5:16
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. -2 Corinthians 5:17

So dear one, let us not regard those who are around us according to the flesh, let us weep, pray for their deliverance, that they may come to be united with Christ— believing that their old selves have passed away with its passions and desires, that they be new creations in Christ Jesus, abiding in the will
of God.

May God’s grace be with you, to strengthen you. To God be the glory. Amen

Santoso,

Thank you! And the scriptures are very helpful. I can pray for God's guidance to see appropriately according to the spirit and not the flesh to see how to pray rightly for others.

God bless you!

biblelesson said:

Santoso,

Thank you! And the scriptures are very helpful. I can pray for God's guidance to see appropriately according to the spirit and not the flesh to see how to pray rightly for others.

God bless you!

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To God be the glory.

May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope. -Romans 15:13

To God we pray, too, that He fill us with joy and peace in believing so that we abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.