Creationism/Creation Science... approved by Arkansas house

Psalm 27 · May 8, 2021

Belk said:
So we can add geneticists who do not see a bottleneck in the genetic history to the giant conspiracy along with the biologists and geologists?

Not a conspiricy, an agenda, to distract humanity from their creator. satan started it approx. 5000 years ago, why would he stop now? Proverbs 22:6

Psalm 27 · May 8, 2021

Jimmy D said:
No, it’s a fact, even if it is a true story. I was actually trying to avoid the term “myth”, shall we settle for “account”? It’s not my intention to antagonise anyone.

Creation narrative

Psalm 27 · May 8, 2021

Whyayeman said:
Actual Psalm 27 is lovely poetry, especially as rendered in the King James Bible. I know it well from my own choirboy days, long ago!

But give proper respect those who have another anthology! We will not all live under the authority of elders; we will think for ourselves. American children should be taught to do the same, in science and in places of worship - if they attend.

Children are not taught about creation in school though, are they?

Whyayeman · May 8, 2021

So, we won't enquire about which of the eight was carrying chlamydia.

(This account of the Flood is one of the things that put me off the Old Testament aspect of Christianity. There are others, but probably this is the worst!)

Psalm 27 · May 8, 2021

Whyayeman said:
So, we won't enquire about which of the eight was carrying chlamydia.

(This account of the Flood is one of the things that put me off the Old Testament aspect of Christianity. There are others, but probably this is the worst!)

At least you’ve read it. It’s not easy reading from what I remember...think I’ll read it again tomorrow.

Read Genesis 1 again, who knows?

Don’t know much about STD’s tbh

Whyayeman · May 8, 2021

Psalm 27 said:
Children are not taught about creation in school though, are they?

So I have been told. Apparently this has always been true because the American Constitution forbids religious instruction. The opposite is the case in the UK where the Law demands that Religion must have a place.

Yet even with this requirement the teaching about the creation must be put in the context of a 'broad range of beliefs', these days including other faiths.

Whyayeman · May 8, 2021

Psalm 27 said:
At least you’ve read it.

It was taught to me at school in those statutory RE lessons. I was a good boy and sat at the front...

Psalm 27 · May 8, 2021

Whyayeman said:
It was taught to me at school in those statutory RE lessons. I was a good boy and sat at the front...

Ironically, I was usually the one at the back with the dunce hat on

Psalm 27 · May 8, 2021

Whyayeman said:
So I have been told. Apparently this has always been true because the American Constitution forbids religious instruction. The opposite is the case in the UK where the Law demands that Religion must have a place.

Yet even with this requirement the teaching about the creation must be put in the context of a 'broad range of beliefs', these days including other faiths.

RE Changed in the uk Since 2015, the curriculum covers six main faiths. Who in their right mind would want to teach that subject?

jgarden · May 8, 2021

Creationism/Creation Science... approved by Arkansas house

It never fails to amaze me that in the midst of the greatest public healthcare crisis in a century that has claimed almost 600,000 American lives in 16 months, as to why the priorities of state and congressional Republicans remain focused on "culture wars" - transgenders, creationism, ...?

What do Christians have to gain from becoming embroiled in scientific controversies concerning the mechanics (Adam and Eve vs evolution) and timelines (7 days vs 4 billion years) all they need say is that it was God inspired, then move on to devote their time and efforts to more productive endevours?

Those politicians who attempt to impose personal religious beliefs held by only 5.6% of the American public are not representing the majority of their constituents!

variant · May 8, 2021

jgarden said:
Creationism/Creation Science... approved by Arkansas house

It never fails to amaze me that in the midst of the greatest public healthcare crisis in a century that has claimed almost 600,000 American lives in 16 months, as to why the priorities of state and congressional Republicans remain focused on "culture wars" - transgenders, creationism, ...?

What do Christians have to gain from becoming embroiled in scientific controversies concerning the mechanics (Adam and Eve vs evolution) and timelines (7 days vs 4 billion years) all they need say is that it was God inspired, then move on to devote their time and efforts to more productive endevours?

Those politicians who attempt to impose personal religious beliefs held by only 5.6% of the American public are not representing the majority of their constituents!

Legislation to use the government to try to save a failing worldview. Seems about par for the course with "conservatives" these days.

Belk · May 9, 2021

Psalm 27 said:
Not a conspiricy, an agenda, to distract humanity from their creator. satan started it approx. 5000 years ago, why would he stop now? Proverbs 22:6

Conspiracy. The number of people who would have to be wrong for your narrative to be correct beggars the imagination. Put simply, your claims do not come across as credible.

Psalm 27 · May 9, 2021

jgarden said:
4 billion years

Is it 4 billion now, sorry I get confused with all the time guesses/changes

Psalm 27 · May 9, 2021

Belk said:
Conspiracy. The number of people who would have to be wrong for your narrative to be correct beggars the imagination. Put simply, your claims do not come across as credible.

Yes, many will be lost/wrong, due to deception. ‘Where the worm never dies, and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth’ I pray that The Lord will have mercy on the poor deceived souls.

Credible-Incredible...Romans 1:20

Jimmy D · May 9, 2021

Psalm 27 said:
Yes, many will be lost/wrong, due to deception. ‘Where the worm never dies, and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth’ I pray that The Lord will have mercy on the poor deceived souls.

Credible-Incredible...Romans 1:20

I suspect more would be lost when you try to convince them that the Earth is 6000 years old and that the flood account is a factual retelling of events.

Psalm 27 · May 9, 2021

Psalm 27 said:
At least you’ve read it. It’s not easy reading from what I remember...think I’ll read it again tomorrow.

Read Genesis 1 again, who knows?

Don’t know much about STD’s tbh

Listened to Genesis 5. What’s the issues that you have with it?

Psalm 27 · May 9, 2021

Jimmy D said:
I suspect more would be lost when you try to convince them that the Earth is 6000 years old and that the flood account is a factual retelling of events.

Where’s the scientific evidence that the earth is 4 billion yrs old?
Or the universe-13 billion? if that is what they’re ‘predicting’ now.

It’s obvious to even the most untrained eye, that there has been a global flood at some time in history. The sedimentary rock layers are proof enough.

Yttrium · May 9, 2021

Psalm 27 said:
Where’s the scientific evidence that the earth is 4 billion yrs old?
Or the universe-13 billion? if that is what they’re ‘predicting’ now.

Since you're just going to casually dismiss the answers, why do you even ask? But if you would like to explore this more, you might want to start a thread in the Physical & Life Science section.

For something quick and easy, you can just look at the other galaxies (whose light would need millions to billions of years to reach us) to determine that the universe is ancient.

Belk · May 9, 2021

Psalm 27 said:
Yes, many will be lost/wrong, due to deception. ‘Where the worm never dies, and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth’ I pray that The Lord will have mercy on the poor deceived souls.

Credible-Incredible...Romans 1:20

Are you capable of being wrong? That seems much more likely then the millions of people whom your narrative require to be so fundamentally wrong we would have to rethink or entire interpretation of reality.

Whyayeman · May 9, 2021

Psalm 27 said:
It’s obvious to even the most untrained eye, that there has been a global flood at some time in history. The sedimentary rock layers are proof enough.

You have no idea of geology, have you, Psalm27? A good place to start might be G Brent Dalrymple: The Age of the Earth. It is not too technical, but some understanding of algebra (high school level) would be helpful.

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