Dinosaurs on the Ark: How It Was Possible

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AV1611VET said:

This is actually one of my favorite videos.

I've watched it more than once (three times, if I recall).

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Thanks, I enjoyed the video.

dlamberth said:

Thanks, I enjoyed the video.

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Don't thank me.

Thank whoever made it.

Truth of the matter is though, I feel sorry for Mr Ham.

BUT, if the LORD to him to do it, then I applaud him for his obedience; and thank God for the park.

Frank Robert said:

Paleontologists brought to tears, laughter by Creation Museum

It's sort of a monument to scientific illiteracy, isn't it?" said Jerry Lipps, professor of geology,
paleontology and evolution at University of California, Berkeley.​

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Were they fleeced?

AV1611VET said:

Were they fleeced?

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again, they did not expect anything, so no.

Do you have another definition of fleeced that might be relevant?

Ponderous Curmudgeon said:

again, they did not expect anything, so no.

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Kinda like going to a tractor pull and not expecting to see any tractors, isn't it?

AV1611VET said:

Kinda like going to a tractor pull and not expecting to see any tractors, isn't it?

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The first rule of holes.

HitchSlap said:

renniks said:

So, what you are saying is that a creationist can't also be a scientist? Wow.

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Of course they can’t. Creationism is close minded, and starts with an answer, then looks for facts to support their conclusions. The exact opposite of science.

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They can if they practice an extreme compartimentalisation. If they do their research in a field that has no link whatsoever with the "evo-creo" debate (evolution, age of the earth, etc.). James Tour comes to mind: a very gifted chemist who also provides anti evolution lectures. Once he is behind a lectern he forgets all scientific methodology that he applies in his research in chemistry.
Extreme compartimentalisation.

renniks said:

Anyone who can do the lab work and understand the experiments can be a scientist. What you believe about creation has nothing to do with it.

And the same can be said about any secular scientists. They start with the exception that the model of evolution is true, and go from there.

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Wrong. The Theory of Evolution is not an exception. It's one of the cornerstones of modern biology.

Frank Robert said:

I didn't claimed there were. They went there for entertainment and found reason for both laughter and tears.

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Post 612 please; you even gave it a check mark.

Frank Robert said:

Two things. In post 612 I was agreeing that Ham is huckster. In response to your post I did not claim that the Paleontologists were fleeced.

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I don't think for one minute you guys think the paleontologists were fleeced.

I think the point that he made was that the Christians were fleeced, atheists were not.

In other words, a double standard.

The point I'm making, is that if I'm going to believe Ken Ham is fleecing people, then anyone who buys a ticket, be it Aron Ra or Kent Hovind, is being fleeced.

Frank Robert said:

Again, I was agreeing that Ham is a huckster.

A huckster is anyone who sells something or serves biased interests, using pushy or showy tactics. Historically,
the term meant any type of vendor, but over time it has assumed pejorative connotations. Wikipedia​

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But of course Aron Ra may only go to the museum once just to observe and critique it, while susceptible Christians may come back year after year.

Just an observation with respect to the term "fleecing" @AV1611VET

We know who Ken Hams true audience is.

Frank Robert said:

Again, I was agreeing that Ham is a huckster.

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If that's the case ... and I don't think it is ... but if that's the case, then atheists are just as guilty. A huckster needs a buyer, so it takes two: a seller and a buyer.

It's like buying an ice cream cone from the Ding-a-Ling truck that comes down the street, then complaining the driver needs to stay out of your neighborhood.

KomatiiteBIF said:

But of course Aron Ra may only go to the museum once just to observe and critique it, while susceptible Christians may come back year after year.

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To each his own.

If they come back year after year, they must be getting something for their money.