Are you holy?

pasifika said:

The scriptures you quoted pointed to the 7th day Sabbath of the Lord man was not doing the work but God...
That is God Sabbath day Not man?

The Sabbath in Mark 2:27 is not on the same day as God (7th day) but a different day ("today") that is what Hebrews 3&4 is trying to unpack...

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This does not make any sense pasifika and is not biblical. Scriptures already shown why in previous posts. I think we might stop the discussion here and talk further latter after you have had some time to re-read the conversation and review the scriptures already posted that you are in disagreement with. Thanks for the discussion

imge said:

Sure

God made man on the sixth day: Genesis 1:26-31 The very next day was Sabbath.

Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man. Mark 2:27

God ended His work and Blessed the seventh day and Sanctified (made holy)
Genesis 2:2-3. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Same verbiage as the 4th commandment Exodus 20:8-11

Exodus 20: 8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who iswithin your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Hope this helps.

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imge said:

The Sabbath is on the seventh day. You can google Sabbath in Greek, Hebrew and Arabic and Sabbath is Saturday.

Sabbath
noun

Sab·bath | \ ˈsa-bəth \
Definition of Sabbath


1a: the seventh day of the week observed from Friday evening to Saturday evening as a day of rest and worship by Jews and some Christians

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Sabbath means rest..see Wikipedia..7th day Sabbath is the sabbath of the Lord...

LoveGodsWord said:

This does not make any sense pasifika and is not biblical. Scriptures already shown why in previous posts. I think we might stop the discussion here and talk further latter after you have had some time to re-read the conversation and review the scriptures already posted that you are in disagreement with. Thanks for the discussion

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It's called mystery...neither the Teacher of law and Pharisees can understand it..thanks again

pasifika said:

Sabbath means rest..see Wikipedia..7th day Sabbath is the sabbath of the Lord...

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Saturday is Sabbath in most of the old languages.

Also, if you read Mark 2:27 in context Jesus was teaching about the Sabbath which is found in Exodus 20:8-11.

pasifika said:

Mark 2:27 is not referring to the 7th day Sabbath but "Sabbath " rest in general terms..

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No, who told you that lie.

The Sabbath is what it says. In the Greek Sabbath is singular and the definite article is used. Hence the Sabbath not a sabbath.

You bounce around to much.

pasifika said:

It's called mystery...neither the Teacher of law and Pharisees can understand it..thanks again

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You know not what you post. The Mystery is that Christ is part of us. As in one flesh. Christ in us the hope of Glory. He is the vine we are the branches. For it is He that works in us to will and do His good pleasure

HIM said:

No, who told you that lie.

The Sabbath is what it says. In the Greek Sabbath is singular and the definite article is used. Hence the Sabbath not a sabbath.

You bounce around to much.

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Maybe this one will help you..."God again set a certain day calling it "today" it did not call it 7th day...Hebrew 3&4 is about this Sabbath Rest...

HIM said:

You know not what you post. The Mystery is that Christ is part of us. As in one flesh. Christ in us the hope of Glory. He is the vine we are the branches. For it is He that works in us to will and do His good pleasure

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How do you define "Mystery"?

Scriptures have deeper meaning then what it written..that why the Spirit was given to teach us...so sometimes it doesn't make sense to others but is because we see different meanings to what is been written...

pasifika said:

Maybe this one will help you..."God again set a certain day calling it "today" it did not call it 7th day...Hebrew 3&4 is about this Sabbath Rest...

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Like Was said you bounce around to much. Rather than recognize the fact that you have no rebuttal to something shown to you, like the last post. And say yeah I see that. You bounce to something else.

HIM said:

Like Was said you bounce around to much. Rather than recognize the fact that you have no rebuttal to something shown to you, like the last post. And say yeah I see that. You bounce to something else.

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The bible is not written by 1 author but many... one author talking about one thing and another elaborate or expand more on the same...
Is Not bounce around...see the bigger picture and bring all scriptures to form the whole picture...this is not pride or something is how I see it..thanks again

pasifika said:

How do you define "Mystery"?

Scriptures have deeper meaning then what it written..that why the Spirit was given to teach us...so sometimes it doesn't make sense to others but is because we see different meanings to what is been written...

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How do we Define mystery? By where the word mystery is used and how it is used. What is written plainly is what it says. You can't attach a meaning to something if goes against what is plainly stated.

Christ in us, us being one flesh with Him is mentioned as mystery. It is something that is understood plainly but is a mystery to how it can be.
Yes spiritual things are spiritually discerned. But if our discernment goes against what is plainly stated then we are discerning through the wrong spirit, experience the fruit of our sin and the promise of being sent a strong delusion and believing a lie.

pasifika said:

The bible is not written by 1 author but many... one author talking about one thing and another elaborate or expand more on the same...
Is Not bounce around...see the bigger picture and bring all scriptures to form the whole picture...this is not pride or something is how I see it..thanks again

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The Bible is penned through the Spirit of God by many through One, HIM.

pasifika said:

The bible is not written by 1 author but many... one author talking about one thing and another elaborate or expand more on the same...
Is Not bounce around...see the bigger picture and bring all scriptures to form the whole picture...this is not pride or something is how I see it..thanks again

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You can't change what is plainly written in one place like in Mark 2:27 were it says the Sabbath by posting another verse. What is written is what is written.

pasifika said:

Yes I agree, God made the Sabbath for all mankind...but it didn't say God made the 7th day Sabbath for all mankind..
read with a spiritual understanding so you won't be deceived..

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I see, so Constantine and the Catholic church aren't deceived, but the God of Abraham, Jesus' Father and my Father, Jesus' God and my God, are?

HIM said:

The Bible is penned through the Spirit of God by many through One, HIM.

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OK so it penned by many..through the One Spirit..

HIM said:

You can't change what is plainly written in one place like in Mark 2:27 were it says the Sabbath by posting another verse. What is written is what is written.

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The Sabbath here in Mark 2:27 is reference to man Not God, so you ask the question is man's Sabbath day the 7th day?..

When is man's Sabbath day?

Sabbath is Deeper then what is written...

Studyman said:

I see, so Constantine and the Catholic church aren't deceived, but the God of Abraham, Jesus' Father and my Father, Jesus' God and my God, are?

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If God is your Father then you should know how you enter into His Sabbath rest..

pasifika said:

If God is your Father then you should know how you enter into His Sabbath rest..

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I do, HE tells everyone. It's just that "many" don't believe Him. But HIS Son Jesus did, and so do I.

Studyman said:

I do, HE tells everyone. It's just that "many" don't believe Him. But HIS Son Jesus did, and so do I.

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So you believe Him just one day of every week ie 7th day?

pasifika said:

So you believe Him just one day of every week ie 7th day?

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Well now that is foolish talk and you know it. We are discussing God's Commandments, which the Scriptures say are Holy, Just and Good.

If you were a thief or adulterer, and you came in Christ's Name preaching to others that these Commandments are irrelevant, as you do God's Sabbath Commandment that Jesus said was "made for man", then I would also direct you to the Word's of the God of the Bible showing that Stealing, and cheating on your wife is against the Commandments of God.

But you are not talking about these Commandments, but another from the same list, by the same God, to the same world. You seem to judge some of God's commandments as worthy of your respect, and others as not worthy of your respect. I am simply stating that according to Scriptures we are to be Faithful stewards of God as was Jesus, not self proclaimed Judges of His Instruction.

Directing you to the Bible in such a way is certainly not evidence that I don't believe in God Sunday thru Friday. At least I can see no evidence of this. Perhaps you can explain how directing you to the Commandments of God is evidence of "unbelief" in the God that gave them..