What limits would this put on God

JAL said:

LOL. Immaterialism doesn't even have a coherent theory of divine substance (much less omnipresence) - a fact which Dr. Michael Gleghorn found himself forced to contend with. That scholar found himself crying out for help!
“If God is Immaterial, What is He Made Of?” – Probe Ministries

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sub·stance

1. a particular kind of matter with uniform properties.
   "a steel tube coated with a waxy substance"
2. 2.
   the real physical matter of which a person or thing consists and which has a tangible, solid presence.
   "proteins compose much of the actual substance of the body"

From your website:

"God is spirit; that is, God is an immaterial, or spiritual being. We could also describe God as a spiritual substance. Obviously, this is a long way from saying that God is “nothing”! A spiritual being is not a physical being, but it is every bit as real as a physical being. Indeed, in the case of God, He is actually more “real” than the physical universe (which only exists because He created it and continually sustains it in being)."
“If God is Immaterial, What is He Made Of?”

God is not a creature. C.S. Lewis uses the story of all of time being on a sheet of paper. God looking at it sees all of time at once outside of time.

What is God’s relationship to time? | GotQuestions.org

omnipresence

I already gave some of the verses that prove omnipresence.

The Omnipresent God
Doctrine of God (Part 8): God’s Omnipresence | Reasonable Faith

JAL said:

LOL. Immaterialism doesn't even have a coherent theory of divine substance (much less omnipresence) - a fact which Dr. Michael Gleghorn found himself forced to contend with. That scholar found himself crying out for help!
“If God is Immaterial, What is He Made Of?” – Probe Ministries

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ROFL He is not crying out for help. What an exaggeration on your part!!!

JAL said:

Sorry, you're wrong. No exaggeration. Jesus said that the truths of God are revealed mostly to little children instead of scholars (Mat 11:25). It takes a scholar to even begin to comprehend (the mostly incoherent) immaterialism. Whereas materialism is easy for little children to comprehend, even first-graders, as I demonstrated at posts 602 to 610 on the other thread.

2,000 years after Christ, this seminary scholar Dr. Michael Gleghorn STILL can't answer a simple question about divine substance. He doesn't even know where to look! He asked for recommendations on reading materials! As well as asking for the right answer! Sorry but that's definitely a cry for help. And that was published 10 years ago. Why hasn't he answered his own question? Evidently he STILL doesn't know the answer!!!!

You can continue to sugar-coat it if you want to, and I'm sure you will, but deep down we both know the truth. Meanwhile I'll stick with a simple materialism accessible to first-graders.

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It is an exaggeration by you. And, the Bible says Study to show yourself approved --- which includes scholars. If you knew anything about Judaism, You would know that Scholars are honored.

2 Timothy 2:15
Moffatt New Testament
Do your utmost to let God see that you at least are a sound workman, with no need to be ashamed of the way you handle the word of the Truth.

NET Bible
Make every effort to present yourself before God as a proven worker who does not need to be ashamed, teaching the message of truth accurately.

Lazy Students favorite verse
Ecclesiastes 12:12
But beyond this, my son, be warned: the writing of many books is endless, and excessive devotion to books is wearying to the body.


1 Peter 3:15
Easy-to-Read Version
15 But keep the Lord Christ holy in your hearts. Always be ready to answer everyone who asks you to explain about the hope you have.

No Scholars then no one who accurately translates the Bible into a language we understand.

JAL said:

Correct. God is our Creator. Relevance?

You seem to develop more strawmen than almost anyone I've ever debated with.

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creates are not omnipresent, God is omnipresent.

JAL said:

(Sigh) Relevance? I never denied omnipresence. In my understanding, the (material) divine Word is more or less sparsely distributed throughout the universe, permeating all created objects and souls, whereby God literally has His hand on every particle of created matter, for two main purposes.
(1) Monitoring all thoughts and events.
(2) Exerting forces such as gravity, magnetism, and electromagnetism (literally pushing with His own hand), thereby upholding the universe (all the stars) or, as Hebrews puts it, "sustaining all things by the [divine] Word of His power".

As I showed on the other thread, immaterialism has an incoherent theory of omnipresence contradicting Scripture.

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The point is a being that is physical can not be omnipresent.

And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.(Colossians 1:17)

Hebrews 1:2
And now in these last days, God has spoken to us again through his Son. He made the whole world through his Son. And he has chosen his Son to have all things.

. 3 The Son shows the glory of God. He is a perfect copy of God’s nature, and he holds everything together by his powerful command.

JAL said:

As I showed on the other thread, immaterialism has an incoherent theory of omnipresence contradicting Scripture.

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The other poster wrote somewhere,

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Andrewn said:
Pope Theophilus of Alexandria (385 - 412 AD) also believed in the anthropomorphic view of God.

The question is not whether spirits are material or not. They very well could be. The question is whether God is omnipresent or not. This is what Mormons cannot assert bec they believe God the Father is corporeal."

He out and out refuted what you wrote there.

JAL said:

(1) I said that God's hand is on every particle of matter. How is that not omnipresent?
(2) You keep asserting that God is omnipresent - but immaterialism has no coherent theory of either divine substance or divine omnipresence.

Now you are contradicting yourself. You now admit that God, as a spirit, could be a material being. Which means a material being, in your view, could indeed be omnipresent, contrary to what you said elsewhere.

You're not making sense.

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He simply commands all matter to hold together. He would only need to know where everything is. This has to do with him being all knowing.

אני כי אני

JAL said:

Typical strawman. The point is that even scholars such as Dr. Michael Gleghorn can't make sense of immaterialism, hence his cry for help. Jesus said that the things of God are accessible to little children (Mat 11:25).

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Little Children in Jewish Circles are taught by their Mothers. And, go on to be Bible Scholars. Like little Children every Scholar I ever met or know personally are humble. Those who God hid things from are prideful, not humble like children.

Matthew 11:25
Easy-to-Read Version
Jesus Offers Rest to His People
25 Then Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth. I am thankful that you have hidden these things from those who are so wise and so smart. But you have shown them to people who are like little children.

Matthew 11:25
Amplified Bible, Classic Edition
25 At that time Jesus began to say, I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth [and [a]I acknowledge openly and joyfully to Your honor], that You have hidden these things from the wise and clever and learned, and revealed them to babies [to the childish, untaught, and unskilled].

Your use of Mathew 11:25 is out of context concerning it being against scholars. It was unbelievers in the context that hidden things were not known to unbelievers. Jesus is not saying only children has things unveiled to them.

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Jesus Warns People Who Refuse to Believe

20 Then Jesus criticized the cities where he did most of his miracles. He criticized these cities because the people there did not change their lives and stop sinning. 21 Jesus said, “It will be bad for you Chorazin! It will be bad for you Bethsaida! I did many miracles in you. If these same miracles had happened in Tyre and Sidon, the people there would have changed their lives a long time ago. They would have worn sackcloth and put ashes on themselves to show that they were sorry for their sins. 22 But I tell you, on the day of judgment it will be worse for you than for Tyre and Sidon.

23 “And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to heaven? No! You will be thrown down to the place of death. I did many miracles in you. If these same miracles had happened in Sodom, the people there would have stopped sinning, and it would still be a city today. 24 But I tell you, it will be worse for you in the day of judgment than for Sodom.”

Jesus Offers Rest to His People

25 Then Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth. I am thankful that you have hidden these things from those who are so wise and so smart. But you have shown them to people who are like little children. 26 Yes, Father, you did this because it’s what you really wanted to do.

27 “My Father has given me everything. No one knows the Son—only the Father knows the Son. And no one knows the Father—only the Son knows the Father. And the only people who will know about the Father are those the Son chooses to tell.

28 “Come to me all of you who are tired from the heavy burden you have been forced to carry. I will give you rest. 29 Accept my teaching. Learn from me. I am gentle and humble in spirit. And you will be able to get some rest. 30 Yes, the teaching that I ask you to accept is easy. The load I give you to carry is light.”

Jesus acknowledges Bible Students who were leaders in Judaism, but criticized their lack of living a righteous life.

Matthew 23
King James Version
23 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

Luke 9:45
But the followers did not understand what he meant. The meaning was hidden from them so that they could not understand it. But they were afraid to ask Jesus about what he said.

But, we know that God made things known to them after the Resurrection

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Luke 18:34
The apostles tried to understand this, but they could not; the meaning was hidden from them.