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Peter summarized Jesus's entire ministry when he was at the house of Cornelius. This shouldn't be so confusing!

Acts 10:37-39
37You yourselves know what has happened throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee with the baptism that John proclaimed: 38how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, because God was with Him.39We are witnesses of all that He did, both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem.
 
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It seems that this conclusion begins with the strong belief others are "wrong" so the simple math (and revelations from Scripture) are rejected and dismissed.

Yes....God declared it (through His messenger Gabriel to Daniel, Zechariah, and Mary). So why reject the details that are given to us?
I did use Scripture. You decided to use human theology to declare Scripture in error.
 
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No one (but you) has said anything about "fixing " it. But I'm curious why you're cutting off the last 7 years? The total time given was 7 x 70 = 490 years. You're actually cutting off the whole ministry of Jesus by not including the last seven years. 69 weeks only brings the timeline to 26/27 AD. Why stop there?

From Bible Hub:

THERE IS ROOM FOR ANOTHER KING BESIDES THE EARTHLY RULER. Herod was still reigning, and yet the Christ came to set up his kingdom. The sovereign at Jerusalem naturally suspected the new-born King to be a rival to his throne. Most of the Jews would have shared his opinion if they had believed in Jesus, though they would have regarded the situation with very different feelings. But Christ did not come to sit on the throne of Herod, and we cannot think of him simply as the rightful Heir who will expel the insolent usurper. His kingdom is not of this world. Earthly monarchs rise and fall, and still he reigns. His is the kingdom of heaven set up on earth. There is a reign of life which they that hold the sword of external government cannot hinder. They cannot restrain its glorious liberty, nor can they reform its evils. The world wants a King who can rule in the realm of ideas, who can sway hearts, who can conquer sin. Therefore the apostles were commissioned to make known "another King, one Jesus" (Acts 17:7).
I did not cut it off. Gabriel cut it off.

Gabriel claimed Messiah would be cut off.
 
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This statement is denial that Jesus of Nazareth was ancient biblical Israel's Messiah.

Again.....are you certain that's the argument you want to stand on and attempt to defend?
No it does not. Messiah was still cut off, after the 7 weeks and the 62 weeks. History and God's Word worked out just as God planned and sent Gabriel to declare..

I am defending God's Word against human opinion.
 
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But it says that the 483 years were going to lead to the appearing of the Messiah. So, how do you reconcile that with your view that the first 483 years (69 weeks) were over already at least 20 years before Jesus was even born?

How do you interpret this verse:

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
With Ezra and Nehemiah.
 
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With Ezra and Nehemiah.
I asked you how you interpret Daniel 9:25 and this is your response? What do you mean? Can you try to be a bit more specific? Why do you interpret the verse in such a way that you have the first 483 years (69 weeks) not leading up to the appearing of the Messiah?
 
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I asked you how you interpret Daniel 9:25 and this is your response? What do you mean? Can you try to be a bit more specific? Why do you interpret the verse in such a way that you have the first 483 years (69 weeks) not leading up to the appearing of the Messiah?
It led up to the time of these people. More than likely the only two people still interested in Daniel 9:


"And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ. And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel."

"And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him. And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against; (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed."

"And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity; And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day. And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem."
 
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Dear A Freeman,

9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in Everlasting Righteousness, AND TO SEAL UP THE VISION AND PROPHECY, and to anoint The Most Holy [as King].

Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy is not complete yet. Daniel 9:24 has not been fulfilled. Mankind still sins, the transgression still continues and Christ has not yet brought in everlasting righetousness.

Here is the truth of Daniel's 70 Weeks prophecy:

Daniel’s seventy weeks prophecy is God’s timeline to accomplish the “restitution of all things”:

Acts 3:20-21 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Seventy weeks of years (490 years) are given to “bring an end to sin” and “bring in everlasting righteousness” for mankind. Jesus Christ was sent by the Father to accomplish this great work:

1John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

THE 70TH WEEK

At the start of the 70th week (483 years), Christ, now being 30 years of age, “confirmed the covenant” He made with Abraham.

Gen 15:5-6 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

This confirmation took place when Christ was baptized by John the Baptist.

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli…

Matt 3:13-15 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfill all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

At that time, the final 7 year “week” commenced which would bring an end to sin, make reconciliation for iniquity and to bring in everlasting righteousness. To complete this mission, Christ willingly went to the cross at the 3 ½ year mark (He was “cutoff”). His sacrifice purchased mankind’s sin debt and provided the pathway of salvation for mankind. As a result of Christ’s death and resurrection, the Old covenant of Law ended and the New Covenant of Grace through Faith began. This change is shown to us by verse 27:

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Christ’s death on the cross caused the “sacrifice and the oblation to cease”. No longer could mankind approach God through the Old Covenant of Law. Now the only approach to God is through Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ who dwells in His new temple not made with hands. That new temple is mankind.

Mark 14:58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

1Cor 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

However, mankind, who being carnally minded, prefers the Old Covenant of Law over the New Covenant of Grace through Faith.

Luke 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

Our carnal nature has a built in desire to show God that our “works” can make us acceptable to Him. So when a Called Out believer attempts to combine their own “works” with Grace through Faith, they “fall away”. This “falling away” is also combined with the deceptions of Satan who masquerades as Christ. When Satan’s deceptions run their full course within a Called Out believer, a worsened carnal state is developed.

Mat 12:43-45 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

The “seven other spirits” is a spiritual term that represents the complete deception of Satan. It is the spirit of antichrist.

This worsened carnal state is called the “Man of Sin” by Paul:

2Thes 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that MAN OF SIN be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Once this worsened carnal state occurs within a Called Out believer, it causes the “overspreading of abominations” which makes the Lord’s temple (themselves) desolate. This is the “sin that leads to death”.

1John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

This abomination of desolation is what Christ refers to in this verse below:

Matt 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

THE REMAINING 3 ½ YEARS

The New Covenant of Grace through Faith is a spiritual covenant and it cleanses the inside of mankind. It is not bound by literal time. The New Covenant of Grace through Faith is represented by the remaining 3 ½ years which will put an end to sin. This 3 ½ years consists of two ages of time - the Church age and the Lake of Fire age (my terms). This 3 ½ years is also presented in scripture as Time, Times and half a time, 1260 days, 42 months and finally 3 ½ days.

The remaining 3 ½ years period starts within a believer when they are first Called Out from the world. This is the time of the Early Rain of the Spirit.

Jam 5:7-8 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain. 8 Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.

James says a lot in these two verses and its meaning is hidden in spiritual language.

Christ is the Husbandman who is a farmer. The Precious Fruit of the Earth is the New Man in Christ who is to be harvested from the Earth. The Earth represents the carnal & sinful world. The farmer “hath long patience for it” because birthing many new Sons of God is a long process and is now just getting started with the harvest of the First-Fruits in this present age.

Christ even said:

Luke 12:49 I came to send fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!

“Fire” is a spiritual term for the judgment of God. Without His judgment, no one would be saved. In the above verse, Christ longs to start that process of judgment upon mankind (The Elect first, then all others) but the time was not yet at hand. Since before the creation began, Christ has been waiting patiently for that day - the Day of the Lord. It is no wonder that “patience” is one of the fruits of the Spirit.

At the end of verse 7, James says that the growing season for Christ’s harvest of mankind starts with the Early Rain. It is at this point in time that a new believer will enter the Church. The Early Rain represents the receiving of the down-payment of the Holy Spirit. However, the Early Rain of the Spirit is not sufficient for us to grow to maturity and produce fruit. It leaves the new believer carnally mind and spiritually blind. It is at this time that Satan comes to us and causes us to accept His lies. We quickly fall away and spiritually worsen into a “Man of Sin”. This is the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel and Christ.

During this time, the fallen away believer desperately needs the Latter Rain of the Spirit. The Latter Rain is also known as the Baptism of the Spirit which is the rain that produces our salvation. However, this rain will not fall upon a Called and Chosen believer until the 3 ½ years period is complete.

Later in James, he had this to say about this matter:

James 5:17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

Note: The Early Rain falls upon the “sea” where unbelievers dwell. The Latter Rain falls upon the “earth” where the Called Out believers dwell.

Once the Latter Rain falls upon a Called Out and Chosen believer, they are “born again” and the last 3 ½ years of Daniel’s prophecy is testified to be true.

The completion of this "3 ½ years" started with the Day of Pentecost when those in the upper room received the Latter Rain of the Spirit. And it has been happening over and over again down through this age to all of Christ’s chosen Elect. But they are ONLY the First Fruits of Christ’s harvest of mankind. After this age ends, all who remain lost will go through the same process in the final age. When the last person is saved, then the "3 ½ years" will be completed and these statements will be testified to be true:

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

1 Tim 2:3-6 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

THE 1290 DAYS AND 1335 DAYS

Dan 12:11-12 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

If Christ accomplishes our salvation upon the completion of the 1260 days, then what are the spiritual symbols 1290 days and 1335 days teaching?

One must remember that Christ’s words are spirit and they carry a spiritual meaning that is different than what man’s wisdom teaches:

1Cor 2:13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Just as the 1260 days (3 ½ years) is a spiritual term which carries its own meaning, so are the terms 1290 days and 1335 days.

The 1290 days is a product of 1260 days and 30 days. When the 1260 days are completed, Christ’s Elect are born again. This starts them on a new path – the straight path with the narrow gate. The term “30 days” is symbolic of this new path. This is the time when Christ begins His judgment upon our His Elect, upon their Old Man who stills remains.

1Pe 4:17 For it is the ripe time for the judgment to begin with the house of God; but, if first with us, what shall be the end of them who yield not unto the glad-message of God?

As I pointed out earlier in this paper, Christ was said to be 30 years old when He started His ministry. He was traveling the path to be judged for the sins of the world and it took Him to the cross. Likewise, we too must pick up our cross and follow Him during our 30 days:

Matt 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Once the 1260 days and 30 days are complete, we are considered “blessed” when we make it to the 1335 days. The 1335 days is a product of 1260 days, 30 days and 45 days. The term “45 days” is symbolic of the completion of Grace through Faith within us. It is the time when we produce spiritual fruit and are ready for harvest. All of Christ’s Called and Chosen Elect make it to the 1335 days.

CONCLUSION

Seventy weeks of years (490 years) were given for Christ to put an end to sin and bring in everlasting righteousness. After 483 literal years had passed, Christ started His ministry on earth when He was baptized by John the Baptist. At the mid- point of the last week of years (7 years), Christ was crucified and was “cut off”. This marked the change from the Old Covenant of Law to the New Covenant of Grace through Faith. This change caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease. This change also ended the literal time calculation of the 70 weeks of years with 3 ½ years remaining. Since the New Covenant is spiritual, the remaining 3 ½ years are also spiritual and are no longer literal years.

The 3 ½ years remaining occurs within a believer starting with the time when they are Called Out from the world. This happens when the Early Rain of the Spirit falls upon them as an unbeliever. It ends when the Latter Rain falls upon them as a Fallen Away Man of Sin under Satan influence. It is at this point that the person is “born again”. Then the process of judgment begins (1290 days) upon their Old Man and ends (1335 days) when the Old Man is destroyed and the New Man in Christ is spiritually mature and producing spiritual fruit.

This pathway of Salvation is 100% the work of Christ. He cannot fail since love cannot fail. When all is finished, Christ will deliver up the Kingdom of Heaven up to the Father and God will be “all in all”.

1 Cor 15:20-28 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the consummation, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

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I did not cut it off. Gabriel cut it off.

Gabriel claimed Messiah would be cut off.
It seems you're not understanding the term "cut off".

Quoting Benson commentary:

Their chronology is so well ascertained as to make the computation of Daniel’s weeks mathematically exact. For sixty-two weeks, or four hundred and thirty-four years, added to seven weeks, or forty-nine years, are equal to four hundred and eighty- three years. After which period, or in the last one week, containing seven years, the Messiah should be cut off. The title of MESSIAH is, by way of eminence, peculiar to Christ. It was first used in this prophecy in that appropriate sense. No other application of this title ever obtained among the ancient Jews. Nor can it, without absurdity, be applied to any civil or ecclesiastical prince, much less to a succession in the high-priesthood. It is here used personally, proper to some one anointed; and to whom it is proper is decided by that emphatic circumstance, Messiah shall be CUT OFF, an expression used in Scripture to denote a judicial sentence and a violent death; BUT NOT FOR HIMSELF — Isaiah gives an exact comment on both these expressions, Isaiah 53:8. HE WAS CUT OFF out of the land of the living; FOR THE TRANSGRESSION OF MY PEOPLE was he stricken.” — Dr. Apthorp.
Daniel 9:26 Commentaries: "Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.
 
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The 3 ½ years remaining occurs within a believer starting with the time when they are Called Out from the world. This happens when the Early Rain of the Spirit falls upon them as an unbeliever. It ends when the Latter Rain falls upon them as a Fallen Away Man of Sin under Satan influence. It is at this point that the person is “born again”. Then the process of judgment begins (1290 days) upon their Old Man and ends (1335 days) when the Old Man is destroyed and the New Man in Christ is spiritually mature and producing spiritual fruit.

Eh?
 
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Dear Christian Gedge,
I'm sorry you don't understand what I stated. I'll try again: The remaining 3 1/2 years of Daniel's prophecy is spiritual (not a literal length of time) since the New Covenant is spiritual - meaning that Christ's work happens "within" us so as to clean the inside of the cup. His work starts when a person is "called out" and they receive an earnest amount of the Spirit (Early Rain). And it lasts up until the time Christ comes to them a second time and saves them (Latter Rain). Once they are saved, the 3 1/2 years is fulfilled for them. Christ will fulfill this 3 1/2 years "within" everyone (all who are in Adam) someday. When is work is finished, then Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled.

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

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I did use Scripture. You decided to use human theology to declare Scripture in error.
My point wasn't whether or not you used Scripture. I was asserting that, because it seems you're beginning with the bias that others that disagree with you on other points can't be correct about basic math.....so reject even that much.

Math has nothing to do with religion (in other words - it's unchanged by religion). It's straight forward and unbiased. Whether I'm Muslim, Hindi, Atheist or Christian or whatever..........-457 + 490 is still going to = the same number.
 
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And that the little horn will confirm the covenant for 7 years.

Show us the Scripture where it says that the Little Horn will confirm a covenant for 7 years? I know that the Scripture does not say this. Your private interpretation did.
 
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It seems you're not understanding the term "cut off".

Quoting Benson commentary:

Their chronology is so well ascertained as to make the computation of Daniel’s weeks mathematically exact. For sixty-two weeks, or four hundred and thirty-four years, added to seven weeks, or forty-nine years, are equal to four hundred and eighty- three years. After which period, or in the last one week, containing seven years, the Messiah should be cut off. The title of MESSIAH is, by way of eminence, peculiar to Christ. It was first used in this prophecy in that appropriate sense. No other application of this title ever obtained among the ancient Jews. Nor can it, without absurdity, be applied to any civil or ecclesiastical prince, much less to a succession in the high-priesthood. It is here used personally, proper to some one anointed; and to whom it is proper is decided by that emphatic circumstance, Messiah shall be CUT OFF, an expression used in Scripture to denote a judicial sentence and a violent death; BUT NOT FOR HIMSELF — Isaiah gives an exact comment on both these expressions, Isaiah 53:8. HE WAS CUT OFF out of the land of the living; FOR THE TRANSGRESSION OF MY PEOPLE was he stricken.” — Dr. Apthorp.
Daniel 9:26 Commentaries: "Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.
Jesus is not still on earth. He had to leave so the church could go to the Gentiles. Thank God Jesus Christ was cut off, or you would not exist.

When Jesus Christ returns, so will the last half of the 70th week.
 
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My point wasn't whether or not you used Scripture. I was asserting that, because it seems you're beginning with the bias that others that disagree with you on other points can't be correct about basic math.....so reject even that much.

Math has nothing to do with religion (in other words - it's unchanged by religion). It's straight forward and unbiased. Whether I'm Muslim, Hindi, Atheist or Christian or whatever..........-457 + 490 is still going to = the same number.
Is is God doing the time keeping. No math necessary.
 
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Here is a question or two that may or may not pertain to this thread.

Daniel 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.


Where in chapter 10 did this angel ever get around to doing this, making Daniel understand what shall befall his people in the latter days? If he didn't do it in chapter 10, what chapter or chapters did he do it in, and would any of that also be involving anything in chapter 9?
 
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Here is a question or two that may or may not pertain to this thread.

Daniel 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.


Where in chapter 10 did this angel ever get around to doing this, making Daniel understand what shall befall his people in the latter days? If he didn't do it in chapter 10, what chapter or chapters did he do it in, and would any of that also be involving anything in chapter 9?
He did it in chapter 11.
 
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Here is a question or two that may or may not pertain to this thread.

Daniel 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.


Where in chapter 10 did this angel ever get around to doing this, making Daniel understand what shall befall his people in the latter days? If he didn't do it in chapter 10, what chapter or chapters did he do it in, and would any of that also be involving anything in chapter 9?

He did it in chapter 11.
......and continues in chapter 12, too, correct? To pinpoint timing - this verse reveals a great deal:

Daniel 12:7
And the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, raised his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by Him who lives forever, saying, “It will be for a time, and times, and half a time. When the power of the holy people has finally been shattered, all these things will be completed.”
 
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......and continues in chapter 12, too, correct? To pinpoint timing - this verse reveals a great deal:

Daniel 12:7
And the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, raised his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by Him who lives forever, saying, “It will be for a time, and times, and half a time. When the power of the holy people has finally been shattered, all these things will be completed.”


The first thing to note, the latter days have to be meaning from the time of the first coming onward. Yet, many interpret Daniel 11 to only be involving periods of time prior to the first coming, though there are some that interpret a gap in ch 11, maybe around verse 36, which they then have meaning in the end of this age. I'm not certain what your take on Daniel 11 is, but if you don't see anything in that chapter involving anything after the first coming, you can't logically connect it with anything in Daniel 10 having to do with what shall befall Daniel's ppl in the latter days.
 
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......and continues in chapter 12, too, correct? To pinpoint timing - this verse reveals a great deal:

Daniel 12:7
And the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, raised his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by Him who lives forever, saying, “It will be for a time, and times, and half a time. When the power of the holy people has finally been shattered, all these things will be completed.”
Did Daniel stand in his lot in 70AD ?

Daniel 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.
 
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