Governor DeSantis suspends all local COVID-19 orders in Florida

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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is taking executive action to suspend all local COVID-19 emergency mandates immediately and is issuing an executive order to outlaw all local COVID-19 emergency mandates in the state effective July 1.

"What I'm going to do is sign the bill, it's effective July 1," DeSantis said at the bill signing Monday in St. Petersburg. "I will also sign an executive order pursuant to that bill invalidating all remaining local emergency COVID orders effective on July 1. But then to bridge the gap between then and now, I am going to suspend, under my executive power, the local emergency orders as it relates to COVID. I think that's the evidence-based thing to do."


Recently Florida has been the state with the most cases of COVID every day.
 
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Tourists and holiday makers, keep away from Florida!

Disneyland in California reopened this weekend with masks, distancing rules and temperature checks. If you don't like masks and distancing rules, don't come!
 
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"What I'm going to do is sign the bill, it's effective July 1," DeSantis said at the bill signing Monday in St. Petersburg. "I will also sign an executive order pursuant to that bill invalidating all remaining local emergency COVID orders effective on July 1. But then to bridge the gap between then and now, I am going to suspend, under my executive power, the local emergency orders as it relates to COVID. I think that's the evidence-based thing to do."

Let me guess...he's running for POTUS in 2024?
 
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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is taking executive action to suspend all local COVID-19 emergency mandates immediately and is issuing an executive order to outlaw all local COVID-19 emergency mandates in the state effective July 1.

"What I'm going to do is sign the bill, it's effective July 1," DeSantis said at the bill signing Monday in St. Petersburg. "I will also sign an executive order pursuant to that bill invalidating all remaining local emergency COVID orders effective on July 1. But then to bridge the gap between then and now, I am going to suspend, under my executive power, the local emergency orders as it relates to COVID. I think that's the evidence-based thing to do."


Recently Florida has been the state with the most cases of COVID every day.

It's the right thing to do. DeSantis has been nearly flawless in his handling of the pandemic.
 
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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is taking executive action to suspend all local COVID-19 emergency mandates immediately and is issuing an executive order to outlaw all local COVID-19 emergency mandates in the state effective July 1.

"What I'm going to do is sign the bill, it's effective July 1," DeSantis said at the bill signing Monday in St. Petersburg. "I will also sign an executive order pursuant to that bill invalidating all remaining local emergency COVID orders effective on July 1. But then to bridge the gap between then and now, I am going to suspend, under my executive power, the local emergency orders as it relates to COVID. I think that's the evidence-based thing to do."


Recently Florida has been the state with the most cases of COVID every day.
DeSantis has done an excellent job, he makes clear those who are control freaks and those who know how to run a state and respond appropriately to the science of Covid.
 
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All of this will be clearer in a little while - when the actual cases of covid in Florida change over time. I shall wait with interest.

Meanwhile I shall stick to the rules in England where daily reports of the disease, hospital admissions and deaths from it are down by 95%. Daily Covid deaths in England are comfortably below 20.
 
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As a little post script:

One death of a person who contracted covid within 28 days was reported yesterday in the United Kingdom.

We are urged to continue with the same precautions even though there has been an easing of social restrictions.
 
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At least there is one politician who is letting people away from under the government baby sitter.

Straight into a windowless van.
 
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It's the right thing to do. DeSantis has been nearly flawless in his handling of the pandemic.
Florida is about the middle of the pack on deaths per 100k since the start of the pandemic. Right now it is number 7 in the country for COVID deaths in the last 7 days. That's nowhere near flawless.
 
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Florida is about the middle of the pack on deaths per 100k since the start of the pandemic. Right now it is number 7 in the country for COVID deaths in the last 7 days. That's nowhere near flawless.

You're using that wacky liberal metric of people's lives actually mattering... think instead about how much money the survivors have made #campaigncontributions
 
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Recently Florida has been the state with the most cases of COVID every day.

I'll take a bit of a "in all fairness" approach on this one.

While, in many ways, I feel like he panders to a certain base, and is attempting to present himself as sort of a more polished "Trump 2.0"...and that can be concerning for a couple of reasons...but I'll get to that later.

In this particular instance, there are a few things that I think he's doing right.

1) He's crediting the efficacy of vaccines with the ability to fully re-open (given that vaccine hesitancy is the highest among republican men, and many won't do anything unless one of the "right people" says it's okay...and many in that demographic seem to like him), at the very least, he's sending a somewhat encouraging message about vaccination. (encouraging, as in, encouraging people to get it)

2) He's opened up his state for "vaccine tourism", opening up the vaccine to anyone, without needing to provide proof of Florida residency. I don't think there's anyone (regardless of how much they dislike him on a personal level) that can spin that as a bad thing. If demand in one's own state has flatlined, and you've got excess inventory...no harm in allowing people in other states from benefiting... It's my understanding that even several Canadian snowbirds have benefited from it.


As far as the re-opening itself...

That's where one has to consider the benefit:risk trade-off.

COVID Data Tracker

While it's true they have the most cases total, when you adjust for population sizes, they're running at 22 per 100k, they're on-par with these other states
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(and they're trending in the right direction)

In terms of hospitalizations per 100K, they're doing a lot better than many other states that are much more tightly locked down. Which, given how loose their restrictions have been for quite some time, and given that they have one of the most elderly populations in the country, they're not doing all that bad in that regard. (especially after just coming off of the spring break rush which everyone thought was going to cause a massive spike)

In terms of deaths per 100k, they're currently doing better than a lot of other states as well.

Given they have the climate and culture that lends itself quite well to spending much more time outdoors than indoors (outdoor activities, a lot of outdoor dining...the weather's nice enough), they have a built-in advantage in that regard that many other states don't have (yet -- it'll get warmer in other places soon, but still cold and rainy up here in Ohio).


So, at a certain point, one has to calculate the benefit:risk tradeoff of shutting down vs. reopening.

If it was a case where shutting down meant only 500 new cases per day, and re-opening meant 20,000 new cases per day (like they saw in their 2nd wave), then it'd be a no brainer... lock it down.

However, if you're talking about a case where it's going to be 3,500 new cases per day with lockdown measures, or 4,500 per day with things opened up. (especially given that they have a high percentage of their 65+ residents fully vaccinated, which means that those additional cases would be among groups that aren't as likely to experience dire outcomes, and less likely cause excess burden on the healthcare system)

At that point, one does need to consider the trade-off with regards to economic factors.

As a point of principle, I'm not crazy about the notion of him using the "state government hammer" to usurp certain local ordinances.


I think that's where there has to be consideration for key differences on a state by state basis.

There are things that are different about Florida and say... Wisconsin or Michigan, that means that what may be an "okay" idea for Florida wouldn't be a good idea for Michigan... and a policy of reopening that could spell disaster (for a places like Michigan or Illinois, where it's not nice enough to do a lot of things outside yet...which means that reopening would lend itself to higher amounts of people congregating indoors...unlike Florida, where, if it's a nice 75 degree evening, many folks are going to opt to dine or do things outside even if indoor was an option).
 
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It’s easy when you don’t do anything.

As I sort of touched on in my post, Florida has some pretty nice built-in advantages when it comes to this particular virus.

The key one being, the climate...

It's been pretty well established that outdoors is a lot safer than indoors. ...and Florida has a culture/climate that definitely lends itself to outdoor activities over indoor activities...even when indoor options are ready available and unrestricted.

For instance, if it's a 75-degree clear evening with a nice breeze rolling through...many people aren't going to be rushing to a bowling alley or hanging out in a shopping mall (even if those places are fully open). People usually save those things for when the weather is crummy. They're going to be hitting up the beach or one of of the numerous outdoor/open-air bars or restaurants.

Given the environment lending itself to outdoorsy kind of activities, combined with a decent vaccination rate among the elderly, I don't think the "full reopening" is going to have the disastrous effects people are speculating that it will (especially considering that Florida never really locked down all that hard to begin with), so his latest measures aren't all that far off from what they were already doing.


However, if he were running the state of Michigan right now...Michigan would resemble India in 2-3 months.
 
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