Should the government continue to go after Trump's attorneys?

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If I incite someone to commit a crime, then I'm as guilty as he is and probably more guilty.

It's up to the law to determine who did the incitement according to evidence (I'm not naming anyone but we all lived it and know the answer) and what sort of punishment they deserve.

As far as Guiliani is concerned, we all know that he was not acting as a lawyer but as a politician. This is obvious bec of all his public speeches.
That is a total non answer to the question I asked
 
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Selective law enforcement was the Trump Justice Department blocking warrants to sideline the investigation.
NO Not at all that is called exercising your rights, POTUS has to confide in his staff those conversations are not subject to disclosure, Trump did noting wrong and certainly nothing that has not been done by other presidents including Obama.
 
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Because they may be guilty of crimes. Seems logical to go after people who may be vile law breakers and enemies of America.
EXCEPT in this country we do not select the individual first and then see if we can find some crime somewhere to charge them with, that is against the principles of the the American justice system, we also do not call people enemies of America without evidence that proves they have committed a crime against our nation.
 
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Now, if what he's saying ends up being true, then that should raise some eyebrows...

Sure. But keep in mind this is the guy who organized a press conference at a landscaping company about election fraud he had no evidence for. Let's not pretend the guy has much credibility.
 
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As far as we know, the prosecutors are not trying to get evidence about anyone other than Giuliani.

If they find evidence in those documents that implicates criminal activities committed by other private citizens, they might extend their investigation, but their intent is to uncover information about Giuliani's activities in Ukraine.
 
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why do you think it is OK for the government to continue to go after Trumps attorneys or any attorneys who support Trump?
The justice department should go after suspected crimes, where they have sufficient evidence supporting this stance. Doesn't matter if the target is Trump's lawyer or a multiple offender. Unfortunately we have learned they won't go after a sitting president, but that issue resolves in due time.
 
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As far as we know, the prosecutors are not trying to get evidence about anyone other than Giuliani.

If they find evidence in those documents that implicates criminal activities committed by other private citizens, they might extend their investigation, but their intent is to uncover information about Giuliani's activities in Ukraine.
And perhaps if in this process they uncover other crimes, then they also go after that.
Be it Hunter Biden or Donald Trump or whoever.

Anyone interested in justice and anti corruption should be happy that the authorities have their hands on Giuliani's devices.
 
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Ok.....so I've been doing some research and apparently the FBI is not actually the Government.

Which is a huge relief, also you'll never guess but the current director was actually appointed by President D.J. Trump and confirmed by a republican controlled senate(on Mitch McConnell's watch) so he's definitely one of the good fellas....erm I mean good guys.

Rudy is gonna be just fine, besides as a high-profile lawyer himself, he's got an exceptional track record for getting bogus cases thrown out of court.
 
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The justice department should go after suspected crimes, where they have sufficient evidence supporting this stance. Doesn't matter if the target is Trump's lawyer or a multiple offender. Unfortunately we have learned they won't go after a sitting president, but that issue resolves in due time.
If what was done to Trump by the Justice department was not going after a sitting president, what exactly would you call it? It was nothing short of finding every conceivable way to invent a reason to take action against Trump and his associates. It was a despicable abuse of the powers of the Justice department.
 
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If what was done to Trump by the Justice department was not going after a sitting president, what exactly would you call it? It was nothing short of finding every conceivable way to invent a reason to take action against Trump and his associates. It was a despicable abuse of the powers of the Justice department.
i'm not entirely sure what you are talking about.

The justice department under Trump's presidency never went after Trump on anything at all.
They refused to investigate the Ukraine shakedown.
As far as I know, they never had Trump under any investigation.

Bizzarely they tried to defend Trump from a sexual assault allegation.
 
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i'm not entirely sure what you are talking about.

The justice department under Trump's presidency never went after Trump on anything at all.
They refused to investigate the Ukraine shakedown.
As far as I know, they never had Trump under any investigation.

Bizzarely they tried to defend Trump from a sexual assault allegation.
How quickly people forget. Do you not remember the Russia hoax? Do you remember a man by the name of Robert Mueller?
 
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How quickly people forget. Do you not remember the Russia hoax? Do you remember a man by the name of Robert Mueller?
Wasn’t he the Republican ex-FBI director who was appointed by the Republican Assistant Attorney General (since the Republican Attorney General recused himself for being part of the things that Mr Mueller would be investigating), who was part of the [checks notes] Trump Administration?
 
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Wasn’t he the Republican ex-FBI director who was appointed by the Republican Assistant Attorney General (since the Republican Attorney General recused himself for being part of the things that Mr Mueller would be investigating), who was part of the [checks notes] Trump Administration?
close enough.
 
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How quickly people forget. Do you not remember the Russia hoax? Do you remember a man by the name of Robert Mueller?
Robert Mueller was hired by Rossenstien the Republican acting Attorney General to investigate the Russians interfering in the 2016 USA presidential election, he also tasked Mueller to investigate non Donald Trump members of the Trump 2016 presidential campaign.

Trump himself was never under investigation.

Many Russians and some non Donald Trump campaign members were charged and found guilty of crimes.
 
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Robert Mueller was hired by Rossenstien the Republican acting Attorney General to investigate the Russians interfering in the 2016 USA presidential election, he also tasked Mueller to investigate non Donald Trump members of the Trump 2016 presidential campaign.

Trump himself was never under investigation.

Many Russians and some non Donald Trump campaign members were charged and found guilty of crimes.
You have some errors, campaign members were charged but not with crimes related to the campaign, Trump was investigated, most specifically for possible obstruction of justice, If you look at what happened they were fishing for anything they could find agains Trump, his family members, or any of his associates. The MSM played it for all it was worth including making many false reports, all of course inferring or suggesting that Trump, or his family had broken the law. There were a number of questionable or illegal actions by members of the FBI including false statements, falsifying evidence, and perjury. This is of course my view on things so you should do your own research.
 
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