Arizona Senate Intends to Hand-Count 2.1M Maricopa County 2020 Ballots; Not Clear How

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Were these the ones who wanted to get closer than the six-feet (for the social distancing) during the counting...(did ANY Republican observers get manhandled in any state Trump won, I wonder?), of the election ballots?
The blocking, tricking, shoving, racial slurs, removal of observers, etc. by Democrat election personnel that I am aware of only happened in swing states. Six feet seems reasonable, I don't know of anyone who broke the six foot limit. Do you? Some Republicans complained they were more than 100 feet away.
 
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Which you seem to be going out of your way to present or repeat.

Speaking of which, got any sources of information on that "actual software code" that was "required to be released" in the Philippines?



We need an irony meter gif.
You can see the mention of the 90 day limit for examination of the source code in the below article. My thoughts were that if it is released in the Philippines why not in the United States? Software is typically copyrighted while machines are patented. Adding one to a count is not rocket science, nor is scanning a sheet of paper. It's not like the software at your grocery store where there are searches for matches with various items, a sales tax table, etc. PH elections become pawn in Smartmatic-Dominion dispute
 
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You can see the mention of the 90 day limit for examination of the source code in the below article. My thoughts were that if it is released in the Philippines why not in the United States? Software is typically copyrighted while machines are patented. Adding one to a count is not rocket science, nor is scanning a sheet of paper. It's not like the software at your grocery store where there are searches for matches with various items, a sales tax table, etc. PH elections become pawn in Smartmatic-Dominion dispute
If you mix dish soap with water you can make bubbles too.
 
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If you mix dish soap with water you can make bubbles too.
You challenged and I delivered again. There really is nothing in normal election software that is particularly challenging, so there is no reason not to release the code for oversight examination. If the election authorities make continual changes to the ballot sheet design it opens up the process to more mistakes based upon less time for testing.
 
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You challenged and I delivered again. There really is nothing in normal election software that is particularly challenging, so there is no reason not to release the code for oversight examination. If the election authorities make continual changes to the ballot sheet design it opens up the process to more mistakes based upon less time for testing.
You should totally move to Arizona to have standing to sue!
 
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So we have capitol rioters and sham security firms counting ballots without any dem or neutral onlookers while being reported on by OAN.

This recount won't be worth anything.
Please, I'm tired of the fake news. I provided the link to the cameras, it's all out in the open for everyone to see. When a ballot is scanned it appears on the screen on each table. Each counter marks down what they see on the screen on a printed spreadsheet. Here it is again: Arizona Vote Audit Live Stream
 
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Please, I'm tired of the fake news. I provided the link to the cameras, it's all out in the open for everyone to see. When a ballot is scanned it appears on the screen on each table. Each counter marks down what they see on the screen on a printed spreadsheet. Here it is again: Arizona Vote Audit Live Stream
How about actual people on the ground, in the room. How about not having insurrectionists present?
 
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How about actual people on the ground, in the room. How about not having insurrectionists present?
Jesus is truth, embrace the truth. Even those who do not believe have been given a sense of right and wrong.
 
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Jesus is truth, embrace the truth. Even those who do not believe have been given a sense of right and wrong.
Not being a Christian I shan’t give advice to those who are about how to “work out their salvation”, but it seems to me this insistence on dragging the religion’s Founder into the political fray sullies Him more than you might realize.

Maybe you’re correct about choosing the correct God? I dunno. But you’ve got to allow that you might be incorrect on the political end of things without having to sacrifice your faith end of things?
 
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Jesus is truth, embrace the truth. Even those who do not believe have been given a sense of right and wrong.
and the truth is the election was won fair and square, and those with an active interest in overthrowing the government, even violently are taking part in this "recount" with little hard oversight.

this is simply gaslighting.
 
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There was massive wrongdoing, that's the truth. The abuse of our God given rights, acknowledged in the very document at the foundation of our government, are being routinely violated.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Holocaust Encyclopedia
 
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There was massive wrongdoing, that's the truth. The abuse of our God given rights, acknowledged in the very document at the foundation of our government, are being routinely violated.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Holocaust Encyclopedia

First you went to the courts, and you did not prevail --
Because you did not have the evidence on your side.

Then you went to the legislatures, and you did not prevail --
Because you did not have the law on your side.

Then you went to the Congress, and you did not prevail --
Because you did not have the Constitution on your side.

Then you went to the angry mob, and you did not prevail --
Because you did not have the firepower on your side.

-- How the history books will record the 2020 election.
 
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There was massive wrongdoing, that's the truth. The abuse of our God given rights, acknowledged in the very document at the foundation of our government, are being routinely violated.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Holocaust Encyclopedia

I’d like to see a direct point by point comparison between the rights to Bible bestows on us and the rights the Constitution bestows on us. I don’t want anything vague. I want explicitly spelt out for each side that matches each other. Then I’d like to see how they were violated by the events in late 2020. I honestly believe this “God-given rights” is just a Right-wing myth that has nothing behind it when evidence is demanded to be brought forward. I’m open to be proven wrong though.
 
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I’d like to see a direct point by point comparison between the rights to Bible bestows on us and the rights the Constitution bestows on us. I don’t want anything vague. I want explicitly spelt out for each side that matches each other. Then I’d like to see how they were violated by the events in late 2020. I honestly believe this “God-given rights” is just a Right-wing myth that has nothing behind it when evidence is demanded to be brought forward. I’m open to be proven wrong though.
God provides our rights, this is recognized in our country's core document, the Declaration of Independence. These beliefs bind us together as a nation: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. . ." The right of the people to fairly elect representatives is essential for the existence of our Republic.
 
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God provides our rights, this is recognized in our country's core document, the Declaration of Independence. These beliefs bind us together as a nation: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. . ." The right of the people to fairly elect representatives is essential for the existence of our Republic.
The Declaration of Independence is not our country's core document. It has historic value yes, but it wasn't even declaring the creation of the US, but rather the joint independence of 13 separate nations. And the Declaration also doesn't specifically promote republicanism. It just talked about the "consent of the governed" which in England was becoming manifest in the current idea of Responsible government.

The actual foundational document of the the United States, the Constitution, doesn't even mention God at all except for a pro forma acknowledgement in the date.
 
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God provides our rights, this is recognized in our country's core document, the Declaration of Independence. These beliefs bind us together as a nation: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. . ." The right of the people to fairly elect representatives is essential for the existence of our Republic.

Is there some religious text you can point to where a deity gives us these rights? Or is this some god that our founding fathers made up that they made up giving us these rights so it would appear to hold more weight than the simply saying so in the “Dear John” letter they wrote to King George? Like I said, claiming our rights are “god given” seems to be nothing more than Founding Father myth making at best and Founding Father deification at worst. I see know prior declaration from a deity that gives us the rights the Right claims our Founding Fathers claim we have been “god-given.”
 
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