Dinosaurs on the Ark: How It Was Possible

Job 33:6 · Apr 30, 2021

AV1611VET said:
As I said, if you want to call these layers by different names, knock yourself out.

But be careful ... it just might confuse you.

Good.

So back to the question.

We all agree that these layers exist and I'll break it down briefly:

Tertiary -hominids and modern birds
Cretaceous- the last dinosaurs
Jurassic- first birds
Triassic- first true mammals and bird-like theropods
Permian - (first mammal like reptiles which are accepted to exist even by aig)
Carboniferous -first reptiles and reptile-amphibian hybrids (such as frogamander) and turtles with half shells.
Devonian -first amphibian-like fish tetrapods (such as Tiktaalik) and amphibians
Silurian - first terrestrial invertebrates
Ordovician-more aquatic invertebrates
Cambrian- odd fauna, aquatic invertebrates

So what is the young earth creationist explanation for why dinosaurs specifically exist in Mesozoic layers but not in protozoic or cenozoic layers?

Or is pure denial their only option?

Or are questionable photographs of cave painting brontosaurus and blurred and questionable images (or a single image because only one exists) of odd shaped human feet prints inside stereotypical T-Rex tracks (as if T-Rex was the only prehistoric animal that ever lived) somehow supposed to sway us to believe otherwise?

Gene Parmesan · Apr 30, 2021

AV1611VET said:
I don't know. I wasn't on the Ark.

But as for polar bears, I'm sure there weren't; since there was no polar climatology until after the Flood.

Prior to the Flood, it never even rained. The earth was one tropical paradise (until the fallen angels messed it up).I don't know. But if there was, I'm sure they had their own dimension of space with their own climate.

I saw an article that stated penguins and bears and such were acclimated to a pretty consistent climate and that they and all animals populated most of the land masses. That's why it wouldn't have been too much trouble to get those guys on the Ark. It partially makes sense since there shouldn't be varied climates like rain forests and tundra and stuff that make sense with precipitation, as you stated. However, there might have been icy poles. Kangaroos could hop on over to Australia over land bridges that existed before the poles melted and sea levels rose. Something like that.

Obviously this is not my view, but interesting nonetheless.

AV1611VET · Apr 30, 2021

myst33 said:
Is there a chance you have any evidence for your ideas?

About as much chance as you have that the universe came together by chance.

AV1611VET · Apr 30, 2021

KomatiiteBIF said:
So what is the young earth creationist explanation for why dinosaurs specifically exist in Mesozoic layers but not in protozoic or cenozoic layers?

You don't even have Mesozoic on that list.

dlamberth · Apr 30, 2021

renniks said:
Jesus knew things no normal man could. He read minds. He certainly knew the stories were true, because he was there when they happened. He was there at creation.

It's well known that Jesus was born 2000 years ago.

AV1611VET · Apr 30, 2021

Gene Parmesan said:
Kangaroos could hop on over to Australia over land bridges that existed before the poles melted and sea levels rose.

The thing is though, the earth was one giant landmass until the time of Noah's great-great-great grandson, Peleg.

AV1611VET · Apr 30, 2021

dlamberth said:
It's well known that Jesus was born 2000 years ago.

Merry Christmas!

Jesus is the Reason for the season!

(But you do know that He engaged in hand-to-hand combat with Jacob, do you not?)

trophy33 · Apr 30, 2021

AV1611VET said:
About as much chance as you have that the universe came together by chance.

I never said the universe came together by chance, another fantasy.

AV1611VET · Apr 30, 2021

myst33 said:
I never said the universe came together by chance, another fantasy.

But you get my drift, right?

Gene Parmesan · Apr 30, 2021

AV1611VET said:
The thing is though, the earth was one giant landmass until the time of Noah's great-great-great grandson, Peleg.

This one might be new to me. I'd like to learn more.

trophy33 · Apr 30, 2021

trophy33 · Apr 30, 2021

AV1611VET said:
But you get my drift, right?

No, nobody does.

You are inventing another fantasy to prove your previous fantasies are of the same credibility?

AV1611VET · Apr 30, 2021

Gene Parmesan said:
This one might be new to me. I'd like to learn more.

Pangea - How God Split the Continents

renniks · Apr 30, 2021

myst33 said:
When did Jesus say that the biblical stories are literally true or literal history?

His "have you not read that..." simply points to the Scriptures they got to live by, but they did not.
He was not forcing them to accept that as literal history to the smallest details.

He confirmed both creation and the flood. Read your Bible.

"But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be, For as in the days before the Flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the Flood came and took them all away, so also will be the coming of the Son of Man (Matthew 24:37-39).

In John 5:45–47, Jesus says, “Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you trust. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

Moses in Exodus 20:11 states: “For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.”

renniks · Apr 30, 2021

dlamberth said:
It's well known that Jesus was born 2000 years ago.

But that's not the important part. Many people believe he was just another person. The biblical account paints a very different picture

dlamberth · Apr 30, 2021

renniks said:
But that's not the important part. Many people believe he was just another person. The biblical account paints a very different picture

There's the Human side of Jesus and the God, Christ aspect that is not of the physical body. The infinite and finite. A place where spirit and matter meet. The Infinite is the Love and Compassion (Truth) part. Jesus, the person, was limited as a Human Being.

dlamberth · Apr 30, 2021

AV1611VET said:
Merry Christmas!

Jesus is the Reason for the season!

(But you do know that He engaged in hand-to-hand combat with Jacob, do you not?)

The text doesn't say.

Speedwell · Apr 30, 2021

renniks said:
He confirmed both creation and the flood. Read your Bible.

"But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be, For as in the days before the Flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the Flood came and took them all away, so also will be the coming of the Son of Man (Matthew 24:37-39).

In John 5:45–47, Jesus says, “Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you trust. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

Moses in Exodus 20:11 states: “For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.”

It's an interesting coincidence that Jesus used those stories in His preaching in exactly the same way as a liberal preacher would do who didn't believe in literal inerrancy.

trophy33 · Apr 30, 2021

renniks said:
He confirmed both creation and the flood. Read your Bible.

He confirmed the point of those stories, not the stories being literal and without any allegories.

Gene Parmesan · Apr 30, 2021

AV1611VET said:
Pangea - How God Split the Continents

That was an interesting read. I'd always heard from YEC that the continents likely shifted apart during the tumultuous global flood. What do you think about this AIG article in reply to the Peleg split? Did the Continents Split Apart in the Days of Peleg?

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