Arkansas lawmakers approve bill declaring new federal gun restrictions invalid

I am waiting for them to pass thus term limits law:

One bad vote and banned from elected office for life.

Yes, they are that bad.

Fantine said:

In church a week and a half ago I thought I saw a gun sticking out of someone's pocket and I was fixated on it, horrified, unable to concentrate on God. I didn't know whether to leave or vomit.

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Which did you decide to do?

Oneiric1975 said:

But it is always fascinating to me that some people feel so much horror in their lives that they feel the need to carry a gun to church.

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Many churches are extremely dangerous places, but mainly due to demonic teachings, not firearms.

Every so often you might get some psychopath set on gunnin' down a congregation and in that case a good, reliable piece might save the day! Those who feel the need can weep and wail over the psycho's body and lament what he "could have been". Others might spin the wheels on their smoking revolvers and smile, knowing they made that option possible.

GOD Shines Forth! said:

Many churches are extremely dangerous places, but mainly due to demonic teachings, not firearms.

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I would think Satan would love it for more guns to be in the house of God.

Every so often you might get some psychopath set on gunnin' down a congregation and in that case a good, reliable piece might save the day!

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That will be interesting to see if it ever happens. The "Good Guy With a Gun" scenario seems so vanishingly rare.

Those who feel the need can weep and wail over the psycho's body and lament what he "could have been". Others might spin the wheels on their smoking revolvers and smile, knowing they made that option possible.

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"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Oneiric1975 said:

"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."

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Turn the Other Cheek
This is a good and short discussion of what it meant to Jews to have the face slapped. It was an considered a severe insult (and less infliction of pain/injury). In quoting the Bible it is best to understand the context of the verse/chapter as it was meant then instead of assuming it meant the same back then as it does today.

civilwarbuff said:

Turn the Other Cheek
This is a good and short discussion of what it meant to Jews to have the face slapped. It was an considered a severe insult (and less infliction of pain/injury). In quoting the Bible it is best to understand the context of the verse/chapter as it was meant then instead of assuming it meant the same back then as it does today.

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I understand that context makes a difference. Which, I suppose, renders the Bible only meaningful to those who know sufficient amounts of information related to civilizations over 2,000 years old.

I wish there was a book of rules relating to unchanging morality that spoke across the millennia and across time from a God who saw all of time and would have planned for such eventuality.

Oneiric1975 said:

I understand that context makes a difference. Which, I suppose, renders the Bible only meaningful to those who know sufficient amounts of information related to civilizations over 2,000 years old.

I wish there was a book of rules relating to unchanging morality that spoke across the millennia and across time from a God who saw all of time and would have planned for such eventuality.

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Which is why being a believer is a lifelong work and not a one and done. Even at my age I am still learning new meanings to biblical passages.....most I have to find on my own since rarely do church sermons and 'bible studies' reveal this info as they tend to be somewhat shallow (IMO). A good place to start is a commentary to help you fill in the blanks.

civilwarbuff said:

Which is why being a believer is a lifelong work and not a one and done. Even at my age I am still learning new meanings to biblical passages.....most I have to find on my own since rarely do church sermons and 'bible studies' reveal this info as they tend to be somewhat shallow (IMO). A good place to start is a commentary to help you fill in the blanks.

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Lot of work to get it right I suppose.

Absolutely Machiavellian.

Fantine said:

Absolutely Machiavellian.

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Who needs a gun?
Caning of Charles Sumner
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Beating of Charles Sumner, or the Brooks–Sumner Affair, occurred on May 22, 1856, in the United States Senate chamber, when Representative Preston Brooks, a pro-slavery Democrat from South Carolina, used a walking cane to attack Senator Charles Sumner, an abolitionist Republican from Massachusetts. The attack was in retaliation for a speech given by Sumner two days earlier in which he fiercely criticized slaveholders, including a relative of Brooks, Andrew Butler. The beating nearly killed Sumner and contributed significantly to the country's polarization over the issue of slavery. It has been considered symbolic of the "breakdown of reasoned discourse"[1] and the use of violence that eventually led to the Civil War.

Brooks claimed that he had not intended to kill Sumner, or else he would have used a different weapon.[45] In a speech to the House defending his actions, Brooks stated that he "meant no disrespect to the Senate of the United States" or the House by his attack on Sumner.[46] Brooks was arrested for the assault.[47] He was tried in a District of Columbia court, convicted, and fined $300 ($8,540 in today's dollars), but received no prison sentence.[48] A motion for Brooks' expulsion from the House failed, but he resigned on July 15 in order to permit his constituents to ratify or condemn his conduct via a special election.[49] They approved; Brooks was quickly returned to office after the August 1 vote,[50] and then re-elected to a new term of office later in 1856,[51] but he died of croup before the new term began.[52]

Keitt was censured by the House.[53] He resigned in protest, but his constituents ratified his conduct by overwhelmingly reelecting him to his seat within a month.[54] In 1858, he attempted to choke Representative Galusha Grow of Pennsylvania (Republican) for calling him a "negro driver" during an argument on the House floor.[55]

An effort to censure Edmundson failed to obtain a majority of votes in the House.[56]

The more things change.......

Caning of Charles Sumner - Wikipedia

BBAS 64 said:

Thought I would share this:

Bible-pistol - Museum of Artifacts

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It's nice it could be fired without opening the Bible just by pulling on the bookmark. Maintain discretion I suppose...with the exception of the fact that he'd then be left holding a smoking Bible.

I wonder what chapter and verses the gun was in. 1Sam15:3? Or Matt 26:51?