“18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a COVID Vaccine”

Hammster · Apr 27, 2021

18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a COVID Vaccine • Children's Health Defense

I’m not here to pick a fight with anyone, just to walk you through some of what I’ve read, my lingering questions and explain why I can’t make sense of these COVID vaccines.

Please note: if you want to get vaccinated, I’m not trying to stop you.

expos4ever · Apr 27, 2021

All righty-then, batter up!

First, per wikipedia, here is information about the organization you are sending us to:

In step with the QAnon movement, their Instagram promotes the "Great Reset" theory and identifies "Big Pharma" as part of "the real Deep state"

A study found Children's Health Defense was one of major buyers of anti-vaccine Facebook advertising in December 2018 and February 2019, the other being Stop Mandatory Vaccination. Heavily targeting women and young couples, the advertising highlighted the alleged risks of vaccines and asked for donations.[21][28] According to an analysis by NBC News, the group is one of three major sources of false claims on vaccination shared on the internet, the other two being the fake news site Natural News and the website Stop Mandatory Vaccination.[29] Facebook subsequently refused to carry anti-vaccination advertising from the group.

More amusing (and yes, sad) tidbits to come.........

Hammster · Apr 27, 2021

expos4ever said:
All righty-then, batter up!

First, per wikipedia, here is information about the organization you are sending us to:

In step with the QAnon movement, their Instagram promotes the "Great Reset" theory and identifies "Big Pharma" as part of "the real Deep state"

A study found Children's Health Defense was one of major buyers of anti-vaccine Facebook advertising in December 2018 and February 2019, the other being Stop Mandatory Vaccination. Heavily targeting women and young couples, the advertising highlighted the alleged risks of vaccines and asked for donations.[21][28] According to an analysis by NBC News, the group is one of three major sources of false claims on vaccination shared on the internet, the other two being the fake news site Natural News and the website Stop Mandatory Vaccination.[29] Facebook subsequently refused to carry anti-vaccination advertising from the group.

More amusing (and yes, sad) tidbits to come.........

And right off the bat, you started with a genetic fallacy. That was predictable.

expos4ever · Apr 27, 2021

Hammster said:
And right off the bat, you started with a genetic fallacy. That was predictable.

I will leave it to the reader to decide whether the reputation of a source is a factor in assessing claims.

tulc · Apr 27, 2021

Hammster said:
(snip)

Please note: if you want to get vaccinated, I’m not trying to stop you.

That's good...because I had my second shot two months ago.

tulc(is drinking coffee and posting on CF)

expos4ever · Apr 27, 2021

It just gets better. Here is another little cutie:

Other misinformation promoted by Children's Health Defense is a conspiracy theory in relation to Great Reset that claims that elites, including Bill Gates, plan to take over the United States and establish a Marxist high-control regime.

C'mon guys, at least make it remotely plausible.

tulc · Apr 27, 2021

seen this?
'18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a COVID Vaccine' Post Filled With Reckless Falsehoods
tulc(thought it was interesting)

Hammster · Apr 27, 2021

expos4ever said:
It just gets better. Here is another little cutie:

Other misinformation promoted by Children's Health Defense is a conspiracy theory in relation to Great Reset that claims that elites, including Bill Gates, plan to take over the United States and establish a Marxist high-control regime.

C'mon guys, at least make it remotely plausible.

Again, genetic fallacy.

Micaiah-Imla · Apr 27, 2021

God’s work is perfect.

Man’s work is flawed.

Why would I put my trust in man to extend my life?

"My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee." (Proverbs 3:1-2)

Hammster · Apr 27, 2021

Micaiah-Imla said:
God’s work is perfect.

Man’s work is flawed.

Why would I put my trust in man to extend my life?

"My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee." (Proverbs 3:1-2)

My wife’s life is extended because God has given us the world to subdue.

expos4ever · Apr 27, 2021

Micaiah-Imla said:
God’s work is perfect.

Man’s work is flawed.

Why would I put my trust in man to extend my life?

"My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee." (Proverbs 3:1-2)

Does that mean you seek no medical care when ill?

renniks · Apr 27, 2021

expos4ever said:
It just gets better. Here is another little cutie:

Other misinformation promoted by Children's Health Defense is a conspiracy theory in relation to Great Reset that claims that elites, including Bill Gates, plan to take over the United States and establish a Marxist high-control regime.

C'mon guys, at least make it remotely plausible.

Wow, you really haven't been paying attention!

ralliann · Apr 27, 2021

expos4ever said:
I will leave it to the reader to decide whether the reputation of a source is a factor in assessing claims.

NBC news a reputable source? HMM funny that

expos4ever · Apr 27, 2021

renniks said:
Wow, you really haven't been paying attention!

Well then, prithee enlighten us - explain to us how it is that Bill Gates and other elites plan to "take over the United States and establish a Marxist high-control regime"

This should be amusing.......

Hammster · Apr 27, 2021

expos4ever said:
Well then, prithee enlighten us - explain to us how it is that Bill Gates and other elites plan to "take over the United States and establish a Marxist high-control regime"

This should be amusing.......

That’s not the topic.

sesquiterpene · Apr 27, 2021

Hammster said:
18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a COVID Vaccine • Children's Health Defense

Here's a (rather verbose) debunking:
Christian Elliot’s “18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine”: Viral antivaccine misinformation

Hammster · Apr 27, 2021

sesquiterpene said:
Here's a (rather verbose) debunking:
Christian Elliot’s “18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine”: Viral antivaccine misinformation

I give the author some points in rebuttal. But some of his points don’t really address the issues. So, folks can read both and decide for themselves.

pescador · Apr 27, 2021

ralliann said:
NBC news a reputable source? HMM funny that

What's a better source? Fox News (Tucker Carlson)? Any propaganda machine other than Fox?

ralliann · Apr 27, 2021

pescador said:
What's a better source? Fox News (Tucker Carlson)? Any propaganda machine other than Fox?

There is no good source for the opposing sides to present to each other. That was the point.

FenderTL5 · Apr 27, 2021

expos4ever said:
All righty-then, batter up!

First, per wikipedia, here is information about the organization you are sending us to:

In step with the QAnon movement, their Instagram promotes the "Great Reset" theory and identifies "Big Pharma" as part of "the real Deep state"

A study found Children's Health Defense was one of major buyers of anti-vaccine Facebook advertising in December 2018 and February 2019, the other being Stop Mandatory Vaccination. Heavily targeting women and young couples, the advertising highlighted the alleged risks of vaccines and asked for donations.[21][28] According to an analysis by NBC News, the group is one of three major sources of false claims on vaccination shared on the internet, the other two being the fake news site Natural News and the website Stop Mandatory Vaccination.[29] Facebook subsequently refused to carry anti-vaccination advertising from the group.

More amusing (and yes, sad) tidbits to come.........

I thought posting Q-anon conspiracies were against forum rules, or do the rules not apply here?

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