Under Biden, US went from having one of the worst Covid responses to being global leader in Vaxx

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Mask Mandates and shut downs were implimented by the States, often in direct opposition to the Federal administration under Trump. And Trump speaking about something it was as often as not a bad thing as he was a fountian of misinformation.

As a matter of fact, Donald Trump repeatedly mocked people who wore masks in public: Trump Made Fun Of Politicians Wearing Masks During A Crowded Rally Where Many Didn’t Wear Masks.

Trump makes fun of Biden's mask-wearing habits

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Trump mocks Fox News host Laura Ingraham for wearing a mask at his campaign rally

 
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Thank you. His statement is prudent given the many unknowns as of March 3, 2020.
Seriously. He made a prediction at a time when very little was known even scientifically about this virus and even less about a possible vaccine and was off by at best weeks to at worst a few months. Compare that to Trump’s “predictions” regarding Covid and Dr Fauci was pretty much dead on.
 
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The only ones fixated on this was the media who, to this day continue to propagate the false narrative, to the extent, people actually believe it.

Well, SOME of us watched Trump in real time. So you can blame the media but not all of us are stupid and we saw what Trump did.
 
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Just one example of how the Trump Administration refused to support the states last fall.....that all changed when Biden took over....

Top Trump officials actively lobbied Congress to deny state governments any extra funding for the Covid-19 vaccine rollout last fall — despite frantic warnings from state officials that they didn’t have the money they needed to ramp up a massive vaccination operation.

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In a sharply worded letter on Dec. 4, ASTHO and the Association of Immunization Managers wrote to Surgeon General Jerome Adams that, “Recent communications by senior Administration officials to Congress … indicate that this Administration and some members of Congress do not support our request for substantial additional resources for vaccine administration and infrastructure.”

“This is extremely unfortunate,” ASTHO wrote. “We believe that it is neither a partisan nor political statement to share the very obvious fact that the vaccination of 330,000,000 Americans safely and effectively will take far more than the $340 million currently allocated to local, state, and territorial governmental public health agencies.”

Trump officials lobbied to deny states money for vaccine rollout last fall
 
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HUH?

Some bullet points the day before the inauguration:

  • Mask mandates were in states across the nation.
  • Businesses were shut down
  • The President was speaking daily on the disease.
  • Three Bi partisan relief bills were passed
  • The congress passed a bipartisan plan to help small business and actually implemented it.
  • Ventilators were being produced in such a volume, we were sending them internationally
  • The Javits Center in NYC, (though not used), was set up to treat thousands
  • The Hospital ship was docked ready to receive patients
  • Operation Warp Speed was developed and implemented
  • An average of 900,000 people a day were being vaccinated
  • Travel restrictions where in place so fast and so early, Democratic leadership complained about it as Nancy encouraged people to go shopping.
That's just off the top of my head.
That's absolutely off the top of your head because it certainly isn't coming from anywhere else. Most of those are state and local initiatives, not Federal. Of the ones that are Federal, most is the legistlature and not Trump (executive). Of the couple that are Trump, he made one restriction of travel from China that didn't restrict much and he certainly was not "speaking daily on the disease" - and many of the days he DID speak on the disease it was to tell everyone that it's a hoax, it's just a flu, you get it and then you miss work a few days and you're better, it will go away in April, one day in April "it's like a miracle, it's gone", inject bleach and swallow a flashlight, and all his other completely wrong statements about Covid. So his response was virtually non-existent and what did exist was mostly counterproductive and helped to spread Covid rather than prevent or eradicate it.

Has the Biden administration done a good job with vaccines, sure they have - kudo's to him. But to say the response to Covid was all but non existent until January 21, 2021 is Ludacris.
I didn't say "the response to Covid was all but non existent until January 21, 2021" - that claim is different from what I actually said.

And my actual claim is not a famous 90's rapper
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I didn't say "the response to Covid was all but non existent until January 21, 2021" - that claim is different from what I actually said.


This story lays bare how the US Federal response to Covid was all but non-existent until Biden took over and how quickly Biden turned things around.

What day did Biden take over?
 
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While you were watching someone tell you about it...some of us were actually watching Trump speak.

Cool - same here, that is how we know it is a false narrative.
 
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Cool - same here, that is how we know it is a false narrative.

LOL.

Sorry, not a big Trump-lover or a Qanon type person. I haven't sustained sufficient head trauma yet.
 
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LOL.

Sorry, not a big Trump-lover or a Qanon type person. I haven't sustained sufficient head trauma yet.

me neither. I am not a Biden lover nor victim of mass main stream media bludgeoning.

I just listen and the bread statements in context
 
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Boy would that disrupt the narrative!

Nah, I've just seen EVERY single one of the "tricks" Trump supporters use. You can show Trump actively mocking a disabled person and they will find ways to exegesis it away. You can quote Trump directly on any number of things et voila suddenly Trump didn't say what he said or he said it with special "decoder statements" that allow his most ardent disciples to find virtue.

It gets boring.

There's nothing to debate with someone who is a dyed-in-the-wool Trumpist (make sure to tell me now how you aren't a Trump supporter while you support Trump).

As I said: it gets boring.
 
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me neither. I am not a Biden lover nor victim of mass main stream media bludgeoning.

I just listen and the bread statements in context

Dude, Trump is on video making these statements. If you are going to adopt a "What? Ya gonna trust your lying eyes and ears?" mentality then you are beyond rational discourse.
 
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Nah, I've just seen EVERY single one of the "tricks" Trump supporters use. You can show Trump actively mocking a disabled person and they will find ways to exegesis it away. You can quote Trump directly on any number of things et voila suddenly Trump didn't say what he said or he said it with special "decoder statements" that allow his most ardent disciples to find virtue.

It gets boring.

QFT. It is boring watching the same old song and dance many of his supporters have performed since his first campaign. They kept up their routine during his presidency and his second campaign too.
 
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Dude, Trump is on video making these statements. If you are going to adopt a "What? Ya gonna trust your lying eyes and ears?" mentality then you are beyond rational discourse.

Doode - watch the unedited videos or better yet read the verbatim transcripts. Rational discourse is not found in the media - rational discourse is the verbatim words in context, if you would like to discuss those - please do.

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Now let's look at the verbatim statement on disinfectant:

"Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it.

And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that, too. Sounds interesting.

I see disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that. So you’re going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s pretty powerful."
Please show me where the President said people should inject themselves with disinfectant.

Knowledge is power.
 
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Now let's look at the verbatim statement on disinfectant:

"Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it.

And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that, too. Sounds interesting.

I see disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that. So you’re going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s pretty powerful."
Please show me where the President said people should inject themselves with disinfectant.

Knowledge is power.

Yup, sure enough Trump suggested the possibility of using disinfectants internally to treat COVID. Checks out. I wonder why there have been no doctors who suggested that or have since suggested that.

It is a mystery. They must be slaves to the lame-stream media.

You will note that your favorite President then desperately tried to characterize it as "sarcastic". Which is interesting in and of itself... I guess you and Trump are BOTH wrong about what he said. :)
 
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