If you receive from the Spirit all you need to endure, then you are saying, essentially, what I am: The Spirit enables the believer to endure; such endurance is not initiated nor sustained by the believer. Obligation doesn't come into it, only love and the life of the Spirit to whom one submits throughout every day.
So you say. The Scriptures teach that the one in whom the Spirit indwells is obligated to live by the Spirit or they will die - they will not receive eternal life.
Therefore, as Christians, we are obligated to
put to death the deeds of the body, and
put on the new man by the Spirit of Christ in us to have life.
Romans 8:12-14 (NIV)
Writing to the Church in Rome
12 Therefore,
brothers and sisters,
we have an obligation — but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it.
13
For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but
if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. 14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.
Galatians 6:7-9 (WEB)
Writing to the Church in Galatia
7
Don’t be deceived.
God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also
reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh
reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit
reap eternal life. 9
Let us not be weary in doing good, for
we will
reap in due season,
if we don’t give up.
Ephesians 4:20-24 (WEB) 20 But you didn’t learn Christ that way, 21 if indeed you heard him, and were taught in him, even as truth is in Jesus: 22
that you put away, as concerning your former way of life, the old man that grows corrupt after the lusts of deceit, 23 and
that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24 and
put on the new man, who in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of truth.
Yet you say sanctification and obedience to the faith in our Lord Jesus is optional. There is no such thing as optional sanctification and obedience of the faith - temporary or otherwise.
And what of God's faithfulness to us? As the story of God and the unbelieving, faithless Israelites at the border of the Promised Land shows very clearly, God remains faithful to His own even when they are faithless. The Israelites lost out on the blessing of God by shrinking back from Canaan, but they never lost their relationship to Him.
So you say.
If you do not live a holy life before God, the relationship is lost. Yet you say sanctification and obedience of the faith is optional.
1 John 2:3-6 (WEB) 3 This is how we know that we know him:
if we keep his commandments. 4 One who says, “
I know him,” and doesn’t keep his commandments,
is a liar, and
the truth isn’t in him. 5 But God’s love has most certainly been perfected in whoever keeps his word. This is how we know that we are in him: 6
he who says he remains in him ought himself also to walk just like he walked.
Since you say sanctification and obedience of the faith is optional, I believe
1 John 2:3-6 is speaking directly to you.
John 15:10-11 (WEB)
10
If you keep my commandments,
you will remain in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and remain in his love.
Matthew 10:38 (WEB) 38 He who doesn’t take his cross and follow after me
is not worthy of me.
Relationship lost if you do not continue to take up your cross and follow Jesus in to a holy life.
If it is the Spirit who causes a person to endure, who imparts to them all they need to be who God wants them to be (Philippians 2:13; Ephesians 3:16; Romans 8:13, etc.), what is to be said about those in whom the life of the Spirit is not evident? Obviously, that the Spirit is not in them - and never has been.
The Spirit does not cause a person to endure. No such Scripture.
You are commanded to endure by faith, living and walking by His Spirit. As you do so, the Spirit gives you life.
You use the word "enable," as well, and that too is unscriptural in the way you toss that word around.
Romans 8:12-14 (NIV)
Writing to the Church in Rome
12 Therefore,
brothers and sisters,
we have an obligation — but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it.
13
For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but
if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. 14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.
Then you quote Scriptures, and no nothing about the Scriptures you quote. You lack any Spiritual discernment.
As in the following:
1 John 2:19
19 They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.
The context is about anti-Christs. There are many who were in the faith, who fell away. I quoted those Scriptures to you. Then you quote a Scripture about anti-Christs. Go figure??? Do you know anything about reading Scripture in context?
Matthew 7:17-20
17 "So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.
19 "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 "So then, you will know them by their fruits.
IF you repented and believe in Jesus, demonstrated in
denying yourself and
obeying Lord Jesus, the
Spirit indwells you.
Acts 5:32 (WEB) 32 We are His witnesses of these things; and so also is the
Holy Spirit,
whom God has given to those who obey him.
Acts 2:38 (WEB) 38 Peter said to them, “
Repent, and
be baptized,
every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins,
and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
John 14:15-17 (WEB). . . 15
If you love me, keep my commandments. 16 I will pray to the Father, and
he will give you another Counselor, that he may be with you forever: 17
the Spirit of truth
If you continue obeying Lord Jesus by walking in His Spirit, you are a
Good Tree bearing good fruit and
you will live.
Romans 8:12-14 (NIV)
Writing to the Church in Rome
12 Therefore,
brothers and sisters,
we have an obligation — but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it.
13
For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but
if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. 14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.
You want to say that a person may be saved and then lose their spiritual birth and adoption into God's family by dint of their own failure to endure
That is what the Scriptures warn the Christians.
Galatians 6:7-9 (WEB)
Writing to the Church in Galatia
7
Don’t be deceived.
God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also
reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh
reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit
reap eternal life. 9
Let us not be weary in doing good, for
we will
reap in due season,
if we don’t give up.
I shall respond to you here after your own manner:
Oh good. Let's see how you misquote God's holy Word to try to prove the Scriptures I quoted are false. I doubt you have Spiritual discernment.
Romans 12:3
3 For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith.
"
Romans 12:3-8" are discussing Spiritual Gifts to Believers who are already in the Body of Christ by faith. The "
measure of faith" is the faith necessary to operate in the unique gift God gives each believer in the body of Christ.
Read the context.
2 Timothy 2:25
25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,
You are not reading the context again.
2 Timothy 2:24-26
24 The Lord’s servant must not quarrel, but be gentle toward all, able to teach, patient, 25 in gentleness
correcting those who oppose him: perhaps
God may give them repentance leading to a full knowledge of the truth, 26 and
they may recover themselves out of the devil’s snare, having been taken captive by him to his will.
The Passage regards those who were in the faith (
recover themselves), but began to oppose Timothy. Those who continually oppose God is
deliberate sin. God may harden such Christians so they cannot
recover. Such Christians will be judged more severely then a non-believer.
Hebrews 10:26-30 (NIV)
26
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth,
no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a
fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29
How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who
has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has
insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “
The Lord will judge his people.”
As you can see,
God will Judge His people more severely than the non-Christian if they deliberately keep sinning, because they were saved and should have known better.
For instance, you believe and teach others that sanctification and obedience to the faith is optional, and so you oppose God's Holy Word.
Acts 14:27
27 When they had arrived and gathered the church together, they began to report all things that God had done with them and how He had opened a door of faith to the Gentiles.
At the time, the Jews had thought that Lord Jesus only came to save the Israel, which He did at first. But, Lord Jesus made it know to them, though Peter, that to the Gentiles also God grants repentance onto life, just as the Jews.
So there is no favoritism with God.
Acts 10:34-35 (WEB)
34 Peter opened his mouth and said, “Truly I perceive that
God doesn’t show favoritism; 35 but
in every nation he who fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.
God calls all people to salvation without favoritism:
Isaiah 45:22-23 (WEB) 22 “Look to me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.
John 12:47 (WEB) 47 If anyone listens to my sayings, and doesn’t believe, I don’t judge him. For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
2 Corinthians 5:19 (WEB)
19 … God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, not reckoning to them their trespasses, and having committed to us the word of reconciliation.
1 Timothy 2:3-4 (WEB) 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all people to be saved and come to full knowledge of the truth.
Titus 2:11 (WEB) 11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men
Galatians 5:22
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
These are fruits of the Spirit to those who have the Spirit indwelling them by faith. The fruits of the Spirit are character traits of the believers: love (toward others), joy, peace (with others), kindness (to all), goodness (to others), faithfulness (trustworthy and faithful with others). These are all good fruits of a good tree - ones who already believe in Jesus, and remain in him by faith.
John 15:1-10
1 Timothy 1:14
14 and the grace of our Lord was more than abundant, with the faith and love which are found in Christ Jesus.
Grace and love are found in Christ Jesus.
2 Timothy 1:13
13 Retain the standard of sound words which you have heard from me, in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus.
True.
Hebrews 12:2
2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Lord Jesus is the Author and Perfecter of faith. He is the Author of faith, because He is our perfect example whom we are to follow to receive eternal life.
1 John 2:5-6
5 This is how we know that we are in him: 6
he who says he remains in him
ought himself also to walk just like he walked.
By faithfully walking as Jesus walked, we remain in Christ, and our faith is being perfected as we live out our faith, carrying our cross, living by His Spirit.
These are such easy to understand Passages, that it makes we wonder how you could so badly misunderstand them. So that makes me wonder on what grounds you base your faith.
My faith is not anchored in my own vacillating, human faith, but in the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit, whose faith is infinite and eternally unfailing. Filled with his faith, I endure in the faith, rooted and built up and established in it by his power and work in me.
Your faith appears to be anchored in a false sense of security in which sanctification and obedience to Lord Jesus is optional, yet guaranteed by God. That is not the faith of the Gospel.
Luke 21:34-36 (WEB)
34 “
So be careful, or your hearts will be loaded down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that day will come on you suddenly. 35 For it will come like a snare on all those who dwell on the surface of all the earth. 36
Therefore be watchful all the time, praying
that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will happen, and to
stand before the Son of Man.”