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Sides?, sides?, loyal Americans do not have them and us sides they do what is best for the country.
Yes they do. Years from now kids will be playing Government vs Insurrectionism enthusiasts with stunningly realistic portable gallows and barricades (and no one will want to be on the Insurrectionism enthusiast’s side).
 
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Sides?, sides?, loyal Americans do not have them and us sides they do what is best for the country.

Was storming the Capitol Building "best for the country"?
 
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The lack of trust can be directly traced to false media reporting.
Members of the media can't help but mislead on these stories in favor of a narrative of innocent black men being gunned down by overzealous, racist cops. Yet in many instances, the narrative preferred by the media has not matched up with what actually happened.


If not for journalists' constant resort to the innocent-black-guy-gets-shot trope for every police shooting by default, we'd probably have a much more nuanced understanding of what's going on. People who perceive the problem would be better informed, not just blind with rage against police, suburban residents, or whatever breakable window happens to be nearest by.
Why must the media mislead on police shootings?
Provide a link to a study, survey or manuscript, not an opinion piece that makes things up if you're going to make this argument.
 
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That won't change until I receive an apology from them.

Most such "apologies" come in the form of a six-figure check.

I hope you're not holding your breath for one of those...
 
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Most such "apologies" come in the form of a six-figure check.

I hope you're not holding your breath for one of those...

I'm not counting on anything.
 
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Note the term "surplus", meaning "cut-rate hand-me-down".

This is the only way many departments could afford to have such equipment, and even then a lot of the departments buying such equipment are doing it for their SWAT teams.

It's mostly body armor, assault rifles, and armored transports we're talking about, plus perhaps grenade launchers and smoke grenades.

I'm unaware of anything heavier than that, although fiction sometimes does give law enforcement far more firepower than that.

Micro Machines Museum - www.M2Museum.com 2003 Vehicles

For example, a five-pack of SWAT-themed Micro Machine toy cars from 2003 (see the "Mission Unit Alpha: Night Troops" set) has a Russian KA-50 anti-tank helicopter for whatever reason. The other vehicles - a Chevy Blazer, an armored transport van, a cargo van, and a motorcycle - are entirely reasonable for a SWAT team, but that helicopter gets laughs whenever I post it around.
 
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Note the term "surplus", meaning "cut-rate hand-me-down".

This is the only way many departments could afford to have such equipment, and even then a lot of the departments buying such equipment are doing it for their SWAT teams.

It's mostly body armor, assault rifles, and armored transports we're talking about, plus perhaps grenade launchers and smoke grenades.

Nevertheless, I take little solace in knowing that the police are in the market for merely used military hardware.
 
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Read up on the North Hollywood Shoot-Out and you'll understand why they're in the market in the first place.

I'm familiar with that incident.

I wonder why thoughts and prayers weren't offered as a reasonable alternative?
 
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shall we mention all the riots or just the one that supports your view.

We can discuss those later, if you like, but I suspect we'll both agree "no."

But for now:

Was storming the Capitol building "what's best for the country"?

Yes or no will do.
 
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We can discuss those later, if you like, but I suspect we'll both agree "no."

But for now:

Was storming the Capitol building "what's best for the country"?

Yes or no will do.
Hundreds of riots where there was looting, murder, and arson, but we should not talk about those. If we cant talk about those we are not going to talk about the one that did not contain any of those things.
 
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Hundreds of riots where there was looting, murder, and arson, but we should not talk about those. If we cant talk about those we are not going to talk about the one that did not contain any of those things.

But we can talk about them. I just want an answer to my question first, then we'll talk about them for as long as you like.

Was storming the Capitol building "what's best for the country"?

Yes or no will do.

Then we can discuss any other riot you want.
 
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The lack of trust can be directly traced to false media reporting.
Members of the media can't help but mislead on these stories in favor of a narrative of innocent black men being gunned down by overzealous, racist cops. Yet in many instances, the narrative preferred by the media has not matched up with what actually happened.


If not for journalists' constant resort to the innocent-black-guy-gets-shot trope for every police shooting by default, we'd probably have a much more nuanced understanding of what's going on. People who perceive the problem would be better informed, not just blind with rage against police, suburban residents, or whatever breakable window happens to be nearest by.
Why must the media mislead on police shootings?
As a black man I’m pretty sure it’s not directly tied to the media. My grandfather hated the police he was never arrested for any crime, my father hated the police he was also never arrested and personally I do not like police officers. Its more likely the issue is generations of black people that have had very negative experiences when they interact with police. The elders in my family taught me to never trust nor speak to police way before media coverage.

One of the reasons for the narrative maybe pandering to black liberals. I think the reality is we see that already. Before camera phones, if you went to a black barbershop what do you think was said during these instances? As a child when I went to the barbershop often I heard of injustices within the community. Black people are not believing a narrative that the media is giving us, this a narrative we have spoken about for years.

the fact that a big conversation in our community isn’t known or is considered new, is evidence of the disconnect racially in America.

Who cares if the person was a the worst type of criminal alive, anytime an unarmed individual is killed by the police it’s wrong. Nobody is saying that these people were saints we are just saying that they did not deserve to die.
 
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As a black man I’m pretty sure it’s not directly tied to the media. My grandfather hated the police he was never arrested for any crime, my father hated the police he was also never arrested and personally I do not like police officers. Its more likely the issue is generations of black people that have had very negative experiences when they interact with police. The elders in my family taught me to never trust nor speak to police way before media coverage.

One of the reasons for the narrative maybe pandering to black liberals. I think the reality is we see that already. Before camera phones, if you went to a black barbershop what do you think was said during these instances? As a child when I went to the barbershop often I heard of injustices within the community. Black people are not believing a narrative that the media is giving us, this a narrative we have spoken about for years.

the fact that a big conversation in our community isn’t known or is considered new, is evidence of the disconnect racially in America.

Who cares if the person was a the worst type of criminal alive, anytime an unarmed individual is killed by the police it’s wrong. Nobody is saying that these people were saints we are just saying that they did not deserve to die.
What we are saying is that the killing of unarmed black people by police is grossly overstated, in spite of those who would try to make it appear to be an epidemic it amounts to less than 20 people per year.
 
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What we are saying is that the killing of unarmed black people by police is grossly overstated, in spite of those who would try to make it appear to be an epidemic it amounts to less than 20 people per year.

Small price to pay for...what, exactly?
 
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