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1. It is "still a sin" to take God's name in vain (Ex 20:7) even in the NT
2. "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19 - even in the NT
3. The "first commandment with a promise" Eph 6:1-2 in that "still valid unit of Ten" is still "Honor your father and mother" -- even in the NT
4. For all eternity after the cross - in the new Earth "From Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
5. The saints "KEEP the commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
6. Gospel sermons for both gentiles and Jews "Every Sabbath" Acts 18:4
7. The "NEW Covenant" is in the old Testament Jer 31:31-34 and is "unchanged" in the New Testament Heb 8:6-12
8. There is only "one" Gospel Gal 1:6-9 and that Gospel was "preached to Abraham" Gal 3:8
9. The LAW of God still has "do not covet" Rom 7 - in it.
10. Before the cross Jesus said "keep the Commandments" Matt 19 and after the cross - Paul gives the same list of commandments in Rom 13.

The same moral law of the old Covenant "condemns every mouth" in fact "all the world" Rom 3:19-20 - to this very day - for those who have not accepted the Gospel - for "all have sinned" Rom 3:23
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JESUS HAD COMMANDS...BUT OF IT WAS LOVE.

The issue is how one upholds the Law.
Do they uphold it by the flesh?
Or by the Spirit?

There is a passage that states somewhat like this: if through the Spirit we put away the Lust of the flesh you shall live.

The call is obedience to the Spirit.
For through obedience our hearts are changed.

This passage expounds on that: that first make the inside of the cup clean [heart]and the outside will be.[deeds of the flesh]

Therefore a person doesn't uphold the law by the direct source of their flesh[their natural abilities] but, by the Spirit of Christ we uphold the law through faith. (Or- through the faith)

Here is my question...where does Jesus before the cross say keep the commands?
What chapter and verse.

For to note: command keeping is from love
For example: if you love me you will keep my commands.
This passage is some times read as ...If you love me do this for me.
But I believe it's a statement of fact.
For obedience is learned and Love ....I would think is behind obedience.
Here is a passage that further expounds on that.........
don't quote me: (but niether circumcision or un- circumcision amount to anything but what matters is faith working through [by] love.

So in the end one does not uphold the law by trying to keep it from their natural abilities[flesh], they uphold it through obedience to the Spirit.
 
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In Hebrews 8:10, the New Covenant involves God putting His law in our minds and writing it on our hearts, so the fact that the Mosaic Covenant has become obsolete does not mean that we no longer need to obey God's law. It was against God's law to commit adultery in Genesis 39:9 long before the Mosaic Covenant was made and remains against God's law after it has become obsolete, so there is nothing about any number of covenants being made or becoming obsolete that changes which laws we are obligated to follow. Unbelievers who aren't under the New Covenant still need to repent from what God's law has revealed to be sin, so not being under the Mosaic Covenant does not mean that we don't need to repent from what G od's law has revealed to be sin.


If the way to testify about God's nature were to change when the New Covenant was made, such as it becoming righteous to commit adultery or sinful to help the poor, then God's nature would not be eternal, but it is eternal, so any instructions that God gave for how to testify about His nature are eternally valid regardless of which covenant someone is under, if any. So in regard to Hebrews 7:12, the change in the law could not be referring to its content, but rather the context is speaking about the change of the priesthood, so the change in the law is in regard to its administration.


In Romans 9:30-10:4, the Israelites had a zeal for God, but it was not based on knowledge because they did not understand that the righteousness of God only comes through faith in Christ. So they failed to obtain righteousness because they pursued the Mosaic Law as through righteousness were by works in an effort to establish their own instead of pursuing the Mosaic Law as through righteousness were by faith in Christ, for Christ is the goal of the Mosaic Law for righteousness for everyone who has faith. In Romans 10:5-10, Paul quoted Deuteronomy 30:11-16, in regard to this faith saying that the Mosaic Law is not too difficult for us to obey, that the one who obeys it will obtain life by it, and in regard to what it looks like to submit to Jesus as Lord. So there is nothing in the context of this verse that even remotely suggests that Christ is ending his eternal Mosaic Law, but just the opposite.


At no point was the woman set free from needing to obey any of God's laws, so there is nothing here that leads to the conclusion that in the same way we have been set free from obeying all of God's laws. It is contradictory to think that we need to reject God's instructions for how to bear fruit for Him in order to be free to bear fruit for Him. Likewise, it is contradictory to think that the way to become unified with Christ involves rejecting what he spent his ministry teaching, especially when God's law is His instructions for how to be unified with Christ. In 1 John 2:6, it says that those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way he walked, not that those who are in Christ should refuse to walk in the same way he walked.


That verse is not speaking about any laws being nailed to the cross:

1.) You shall not commit murder.

2.) This person has been found guilty of murder.

The first is an example of a law that is for our own good while the second is an example of a handwritten ordinance that was against someone that was nailed to their cross in order to announce why they were being executed. In Matthew 27:37, it says that they put the charge that was against Jesus over his head, so what was nailed to people's crosses was not the laws themselves, but the charge that was against them. This serves as a perfect analogy for the list of our violations of God's law being nailed to Christ's cross and with him dying in our place to pay the penalty for our sins, but has nothing to do with ending any of God's laws, especially because they are all eternal (Psalms 119:160). In Titus 2:14, it does not say that Jesus gave himself to end any laws, but in order to redeem us from all lawlessness, so saying that there were any laws nailed to the cross undermines what he accomplished on the cross. The Greek word "dogma" means "edict, ordinance, or decree" and is never used by the Bible to refer to God's law.


All of God's laws are eternal, so these verses should not be interpreted as referring to ending any of God's laws. God did not make any when He gave His law, so He had no need to break down His own laws. God did not give any laws for the purpose of creating a dividing wall of hostility, but rather His law instructs us to love our neighbor as ourselves. In Matthew 5:17-19, Jesus said that he came not to abolish the Mosaic Law and warned not to relax the least part of it or teach others to do the same, so interpreting verses as speaking about abolishing any part of the Mosaic Law is calling Jesus a liar and disregarding his warning. Jesus is the exact expression of God's nature, which he testified about through living in sinless obedience to the Mosaic Law, so abolishing laws for how to testify about God's nature can't be done without also abolishing Christ.

The bottom line is that we must obey God rather than man, so we should be quicker to disregard everything that any man has said than to disregard anything that God has commanded. The authors of the Bible weren't enemies of God, so it shouldn't even make sense to you to interpret them as speaking against obeying God.
Hi, I only read a little....
But the law written in the heart...
Are they not spiritual laws...Laws after what changes the heart? As the law of Love- the law of the life giving Spirit.
 
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It is hard to understand how there is such disagreement about a most basic Christian doctrine: that Christ died for our sins, such that FOR US WHO TRUST CHRIST AS THE LAMB OF GOD, OUR SIN BEARER, there is no longer a penalty [death] for not obeying and fulfilling the Law [of Moses]. Those who trust Christ for salvation are no longer under the Law but are redeemed from the curse of the Law, Christ having become a curse for us, hanging on a tree [the cross]. Jesus already fulfilled the law perfectly on behalf of us believers; to attempt to obey it a second time, however poorly, futilely, and half-heartedly, would be to overlook that Jesus already took life's final exam in our place and scored 100%, credited on our report card.

BUT... those who have not trusted or do not trust Jesus' perfect obedience to our credit, and His suffering and death as our payment for sin — those guilty sinners are still under the burden of the Law and obligated to obey every command of the whole Bible, Old Testament and New, under penalty of never-ending death, continually dying and dying and dying without end for all eternity, where the worm never dies and the fire never goes out.

Way mo' bettah to just take Him at His word and receive the resurrected Son of God, His once and for all time payment of the death penalty we earned as payment for our sins, and His promise of eternal life with Him in the Father's house.

While it is true that there is now therefore no condemnation for those who are in Christ (Romans 8:1), it is also true that those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way he walked (1 John 2:6), so being in Christ does not remove our obligation to obey God's law, but just the opposite. The fact that Jesus gave himself to pay the penalty for our sins should make us want to go and sin no more, not consider ourselves free to go back to living in sin. In Deuteronomy 28:1-14, it lists the blessings of the law while verses 15-68 list the curse of the law, so being redeemed from the curse of the law is being set free to enjoy the blessing of living in obedience to it.

There is nothing in the Bible that says that Jesus fulfilled perfectly on behalf of us believers so that we don't have to. In Matthew 22:36-40, Jesus summarized the Mosaic Law as being about how to love God and our neighbor, so that would be like saying that Jesus loved the Father and our neighbor on our behalf so that we don't have to, but rather he did so in part so that we would have an example to follow, and as his followers we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22).

In Psalms 119:29, David wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, in Romans 1:5, we have received grace in order to bring about the obedience of faith, and in Titus 2:11-14, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so God graciously teaching us to obey His laws for how to do those things is itself part of the content of His gift of salvation. Furthermore, in Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to the Mosaic Law is what it looks like to trust in what Jesus accomplished on the cross (Acts 21:20). Our salvation is from sin and sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4), so being trained by grace to live in obedience to God's law through faith is what it looks like to receive the gift of of Jesus saving us from living in disobedience to God's law.

In Matthew 19:17, Jesus said that the way to enter into eternal life is by obeying God's commandments, and over and over the Bible calls for us to repent and obey God, yet here you are acting like obedience to God is somehow a negative thing. Do you think that God can't be trusted to guide us in how to rightly live and to give us laws that are for our own good in order to bless us (Deuteronomy 6:24, 10:12-13)?
 
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Hi, I only read a little....
But the law written in the heart...
Are they not spiritual laws...Laws after what changes the heart? As the law of Love- the law of the life giving Spirit.

Yes, there are more ways to do what is righteous or sinful than what God's laws specifically prescribes or prohibits, but God's law is spiritual in that it has always been intended to teach us deeper spiritual principles of which the listed laws are just examples, and which are aspects of God's nature or fruits of the Spirit. For example, God's righteous laws teach us how to testify about God's righteousness and allow us to abstract a principle of righteousness that guides us to take actions that are examples of that principle both in situations that are specifically prescribed by God's law, and those that are not.

As such, gaining a deeper understanding of the spiritual principles behind God's laws will never lead us away from taking actions that are examples of that principle. So if someone thought that they had gained a deeper understanding of the spiritual principle of love, so they no longer needed to follow God's laws for how He wants us to love, then they would be missing the point. Jesus said in Matthew 24:10-12 that because of lawlessness the love of many would grow cold. All of the laws that God has given are examples of what it means to love God and our neighbor, so the law of love is the greatest commandment because it is inclusive of all of the other commandments, which is why Jesus said in Matthew 22:36-40 that all of the other commandments hang on the greatest two.
 
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If you obey the commandments of the LORD your God that I am commanding you today, by loving the LORD your God, walking in his ways, and observing his commandments, decrees, and ordinances, then you shall live and become numerous, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to possess.....


another version of Duet 30:16..

This seems again like a statement of fact
I am so glad I looked it up.
 
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If you obey the commandments of the LORD your God that I am commanding you today, by loving the LORD your God, walking in his ways, and observing his commandments, decrees, and ordinances, then you shall live and become numerous, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to possess.....


another version of Duet 30:16..

This seems again like a statement of fact
I am so glad I looked it up.
What is very interesting about this is"you shall live"
There is a passage that says God is not the God of the dead but the living.

Even Abraham was told to walk before God.........and He would make a covenant with Him.

And last something to think about is this passage that goes like this: The will of the father is that everyone who looks to the son and believes will have life and I will raise Him up on the last Day....



Or even Gal 3:16...or 2;16
That even we believed in Him in order to be Justified by the faith of Him...kjv

If one looks at what can be meant by the "faith of Christ"...
It could mean...Christ's obedience to the Father....interesting enough I wonder if I could find a passage that His obedience was based on Love....
 
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If you obey the commandments of the LORD your God that I am commanding you today, by loving the LORD your God, walking in his ways, and observing his commandments, decrees, and ordinances, then you shall live and become numerous, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to possess.....


another version of Duet 30:16..

This seems again like a statement of fact
I am so glad I looked it up.

God's way is the way that He expresses His nature, such as being described as righteous and just (Genesis 18:19), righteous, blameless, merciful, pure, humble, light, perfect, liberty, and gentleness (2 Samuel 22:21-37), and there are many verses that describe the Mosaic Law as being instructions for how to walk in God's way, such as Deuteronomy 10:12-13, Isaiah 2:2-3, Joshua 22:5, Psalms 103:7, and many others. When we express God's nature through our obedience to the Mosaic Law, we are experiencing who He is, or in other words, we are growing in a relationship with him through gaining experiential knowledge of Him, which is why there are many verses that associate experiential knowledge of God with obedience to His commands. Furthermore, by doing what is righteous, we are testifying about the truth of what we believe about who God is in that He is righteous, or in other words, we are believing in Him and putting our faith in Him as the model to guide us in how to rightly live our lives.

Galatians 3:8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.”

Genesis 18:19 For I have known him, in order that he may command his children and his household after him, that they keep the way of the Lord, to do righteousness and justice, that the Lord may bring to Abraham what He has spoken to him.”

Exodus 33:13 Now therefore, I pray, if I have found grace in Your sight, show me now Your way, that I may know You and that I may find grace in Your sight. And consider that this nation is Your people.”

Psalms 119:29-30 Remove from me the way of lying, And grant me Your law graciously. 30 I have chosen the way of truth; Your judgments I have laid before me.

Matthew 7:14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

The Gospel is the way that leads to life, God is gracious to us by teaching us to obey His laws for how to walk in His way, walking in God's way is the way to experientially know Him, and the way for children of the promise to be a blessing to the nations is by teaching the nations how to walk in God's way.
 
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Yes, there are more ways to do what is righteous or sinful than what God's laws specifically prescribes or prohibits, but God's law is spiritual in that it has always been intended to teach us deeper spiritual principles of which the listed laws are just examples, and which are aspects of God's nature or fruits of the Spirit. For example, God's righteous laws teach us how to testify about God's righteousness and allow us to abstract a principle of righteousness that guides us to take actions that are examples of that principle both in situations that are specifically prescribed by God's law, and those that are not.

As such, gaining a deeper understanding of the spiritual principles behind God's laws will never lead us away from taking actions that are examples of that principle. So if someone thought that they had gained a deeper understanding of the spiritual principle of love, so they no longer needed to follow God's laws for how He wants us to love, then they would be missing the point. Jesus said in Matthew 24:10-12 that because of lawlessness the love of many would grow cold. All of the laws that God has given are examples of what it means to love God and our neighbor, so the law of love is the greatest commandment because it is inclusive of all of the other commandments, which is why Jesus said in Matthew 22:36-40 that all of the other commandments hang on the greatest two.
Yes, I understand the second paragraph...smile
First part over my head...
 
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God's way is the way that He expresses His nature, such as being described as righteous and just (Genesis 18:19), righteous, blameless, merciful, pure, humble, light, perfect, liberty, and gentleness (2 Samuel 22:21-37), and there are many verses that describe the Mosaic Law as being instructions for how to walk in God's way, such as Deuteronomy 10:12-13, Isaiah 2:2-3, Joshua 22:5, Psalms 103:7, and many others. When we express God's nature through our obedience to the Mosaic Law, we are experiencing who He is, or in other words, we are growing in a relationship with him through gaining experiential knowledge of Him, which is why there are many verses that associate experiential knowledge of God with obedience to His commands. Furthermore, by doing what is righteous, we are testifying about the truth of what we believe about who God is in that He is righteous, or in other words, we are believing in Him and putting our faith in Him as the model to guide us in how to rightly live our lives.

Galatians 3:8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.”

Genesis 18:19 For I have known him, in order that he may command his children and his household after him, that they keep the way of the Lord, to do righteousness and justice, that the Lord may bring to Abraham what He has spoken to him.”

Exodus 33:13 Now therefore, I pray, if I have found grace in Your sight, show me now Your way, that I may know You and that I may find grace in Your sight. And consider that this nation is Your people.”

Psalms 119:29-30 Remove from me the way of lying, And grant me Your law graciously. 30 I have chosen the way of truth; Your judgments I have laid before me.

Matthew 7:14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

The Gospel is the way that leads to life, God is gracious to us by teaching us to obey His laws for how to walk in His way, and walking in God's way is the way to experientially know Him.
That may be why it says his command are not grevious...because of the result. "Life"
Which is too how I believe One learns of Him.
 
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If you obey the commandments of the LORD your God that I am commanding you today, by loving the LORD your God, walking in his ways, and observing his commandments, decrees, and ordinances, then you shall live and become numerous, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to possess.....


another version of Duet 30:16..

This seems again like a statement of fact
I am so glad I looked it up.
Interesting of when the blessing are received..after you "live"
Sounds like God wants to be around the living [smile] it's a place where He blesses.

Shall we not labor to enter His rest...
 
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1. It is "still a sin" to take God's name in vain (Ex 20:7) even in the NT
2. "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19 - even in the NT
3. The "first commandment with a promise" Eph 6:1-2 in that "still valid unit of Ten" is still "Honor your father and mother" -- even in the NT
4. For all eternity after the cross - in the new Earth "From Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
5. The saints "KEEP the commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
6. Gospel sermons for both gentiles and Jews "Every Sabbath" Acts 18:4
7. The "NEW Covenant" is in the old Testament Jer 31:31-34 and is "unchanged" in the New Testament Heb 8:6-12
8. There is only "one" Gospel Gal 1:6-9 and that Gospel was "preached to Abraham" Gal 3:8
9. The LAW of God still has "do not covet" Rom 7 - in it.
10. Before the cross Jesus said "keep the Commandments" Matt 19 and after the cross - Paul gives the same list of commandments in Rom 13.

The same moral law of the old Covenant "condemns every mouth" in fact "all the world" Rom 3:19-20 - to this very day - for those who have not accepted the Gospel - for "all have sinned" Rom 3:23



Hi, just wanted to comment-
JESUS HAD COMMANDS...BUT OF IT WAS LOVE.

Hi - Thank you for that comment.

Jesus said in Matt 22 that ALL the Law and the Prophets were firmly founded on "Love"

"Love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5
"Love your neighbor as yourself" Lev 19:18

"40 Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.”" -- i.e. -- all of scripture depends on LOVE and always has.

That was not "new" with Christ - it was ALWAYS with God and Christ -- is ... God.

same is true of the NEW Covenant Jer 31:31-34 that is unchanged in the NT - Heb 8:6-12 -- where the LAW of God is written on heart and mind.

The issue is how one upholds the Law.
Do they uphold it by the flesh?
Or by the Spirit?

Rom 8:4-12 "the mind set on the flesh does NOT submit to the LAW of God neither indeed CAN it"

It is not a matter of perfect obedience but not having the right thought - rather it is rebellion vs obedience because there is no such thing as a gospel where the wicked are perfectly obedient to God in some amazing way without being born again and having the Law of God written on the heart.
 
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The topic they were making a ruling about was in regard to the means of salvation by works or salvation through grace, so the yoke that no one could bear is a works-based salvation. In Deuteronomy 30:11-14, God said that is law is not too difficult to obey,

If the Sinai Covenant is not too difficult to obey, why is Christ the only one to ever obey it?


You never really answered the question of why Paul compelled the Galatian believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant of "bondage".
You seem to be saying we can only be blessed by keeping the law, which only one person has ever done.
Did Paul tell the Galatian believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant?


Not of Works: Pastor Chuck Baldwin

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Hi - Thank you for that comment.

Jesus said in Matt 22 that ALL the Law and the Prophets were firmly founded on "Love"

"Love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5
"Love your neighbor as yourself" Lev 19:18

"40 Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.”" -- i.e. -- all of scripture depends on LOVE and always has.

That was not "new" with Christ - it was ALWAYS with God and Christ -- is ... God.

same is true of the NEW Covenant Jer 31:31-34 that is unchanged in the NT - Heb 8:6-12 -- where the LAW of God is written on heart and mind.



Rom 8:4-12 "the mind set on the flesh does NOT submit to the LAW of God neither indeed CAN it"

It is not a matter of perfect obedience but not having the right thought - rather it is rebellion vs obedience because there is no such thing as a gospel where the wicked are perfectly obedient to God in some amazing way without being born again and having the Law of God written on the heart.
True,

1 John 2
Then again, I am also writing to you a new commandment, which is true in Him and also in you. For the darkness is fading and the true light is already shining.
 
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If the Sinai Covenant is not too difficult to obey, why is Christ the only one to ever obey it?


You never really answered the question of why Paul compelled the Galatian believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant of "bondage".
You seem to be saying we can only be blessed by keeping the law, which only one person has ever done.
Did Paul tell the Galatian believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant?


Not of Works: Pastor Chuck Baldwin

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hi,
I haven't listen to the video but would like to participate in an answer.

The answer to the first is now we can obey through the Spirit of Christ. Recall He is the first fruits. [As for being difficult or not...I would think that keeping the commands are not grevious- rather it means for what it brings or what the receiver receives when we love. For our goal is to store up treasures in heaven. Choices on the other hand can be difficult when our habits have controlled us for quite some time, but when you weigh the outcome and count the cost of each...and with each amount of surrendering it seems to get easier in areas in your heart that you are overcoming.

As for Hagar ...
One Child was born out of man's natural ability-born after the flesh and will of man
The other was born of promise. Out of the will of God.

The 2 cannot exist together...its either God's will or your will....or by the Spirit or by the flesh.
The key is that God has a sort of higher law[love] because first obedience from the heart will produce good deeds too. Therefore one is to make the inside clean through obedience to the Spirit and then the outside will be clean too.....recall the passage First make the tree good and then it's fruit will be?

Therefore we do not uphold the Law by the flesh we uphold the Law by the Spirit.

The key is "living" not merely existing.
And as the commands that were meant for "life" brought about death....and Jesus was the only one to keep it....therefore also by his own Spirit we can put away the deeds of the flesh and "live".

So another words if you walk by the Spirit growing in grace the commands are naturally kept. ITS ABOUT PRACTICING WHAT IS GOOD SO THAT OUR OWN CHARACTER CHANGES INTO THE LIKENESS OF Christ.
Only by the obedience to the Faith.

We cannot uphold the Law by trying to keep the Law through the flesh....as Hebrews says: Jesus because the "source" of salvation for all who believe....He is the way Jesus is the direct source....( living by the power of His resurrected life[spirit])

What does source mean? The means?
But how....?
First in EPHESIANS 2;8 those born again are quickened to life....
This is how they were saved here, they were dead in trespasses and sin and made alive being quicken together with Christ.....

The above is how we were saved [meaning being reconciled to God by Chrust's death]
So that is one type of way we were saved by Christ.

But the second "being saved"....is by His Life
You know the passage: having been reconciled by His death how much more will you be saved by His Life.

But How are we saved by His life? Well we were given His Spirit to overcome the world we now exist in...but must walk by it through obedience. The reward in my opinion is not only life but it's a life with God and His son that is salvation-meaning it makes us victorious over death that Satan brought when He tempted Eve and she heeded to Satan's Spirit instead of obeying God's.

The New Covenant governs How we are to have "life" today meaning -be in the presence of God while on earth. Recall the passage Jesus came that he might destroy the works of the devil.
 
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hi,
I haven't listen to the video but would like to participate in an answer.

The answer to the first is now we can obey through the Spirit of Christ. Recall He is the first fruits. [As for being difficult or not...I would think that keeping the commands are not grevious- rather it means for what it brings or what the receiver receives when we love. For our goal is to store up treasures in heaven. Choices on the other hand can be difficult when our habits have controlled us for quite some time, but when you weigh the outcome and count the cost of each...and with each amount of surrendering it seems to get easier in areas in your heart that you are overcoming.

As for Hagar ...
One Child was born out of man's natural ability-born after the flesh and will of man
The other was born of promise. Out of the will of God.

The 2 cannot exist together...its either God's will or your will....or by the Spirit or by the flesh.
The key is that God has a sort of higher law[love] because first obedience from the heart will produce good deeds too. Therefore one is to make the inside clean through obedience to the Spirit and then the outside will be clean too.....recall the passage First make the tree good and then it's fruit will be?

Therefore we do not uphold the Law by the flesh we uphold the Law by the Spirit.

The key is "living" not merely existing.
And as the commands that were meant for "life" brought about death....and Jesus was the only one to keep it....therefore also by his own Spirit we can put away the deeds of the flesh and "live".

So another words if you walk by the Spirit growing in grace the commands are naturally kept. ITS ABOUT PRACTICING WHAT IS GOOD SO THAT OUR OWN CHARACTER CHANGES INTO THE LIKENESS OF Christ.
Only by the obedience to the Faith.

We cannot uphold the Law by trying to keep the Law through the flesh....as Hebrews says: Jesus because the "source" of salvation for all who believe....He is the way Jesus is the direct source....( living by the power of His resurrected life[spirit])

What does source mean? The means?
But how....?
First in EPHESIANS 2;8 those born again are quickened to life....
This is how they were saved here, they were dead in trespasses and sin and made alive being quicken together with Christ.....

The above is how we were saved [meaning being reconciled to God by Chrust's death]
So that is one type of way we were saved by Christ.

But the second "being saved"....is by His Life
You know the passage: having been reconciled by His death how much more will you be saved by His Life.

But How are we saved by His life? Well we were given His Spirit to overcome the world we now exist in...but must walk by it through obedience. The reward in my opinion is not only life but it's a life with God and His son that is salvation-meaning it makes us victorious over death that Satan brought when He tempted Eve and she heeded to Satan's Spirit instead of obeying God's.

The New Covenant governs How we are to have "life" today meaning -be in the presence of God while on earth. Recall the passage Jesus came that he might destroy the works of the devil.

If you can walk perfectly in obedience, then you are better than Peter.

Paul had to correct Peter for his treatment of the Gentiles in the Book of Galatians.

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If you can walk perfectly in obedience, then you are better than Peter.

Paul had to correct Peter for his treatment of the Gentiles in the Book of Galatians.

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Depending on the meaning in the context it is most probable that..we are Abraham's seed when what was applied to Him is applied to us. THE MOTIVES BEHIND OBEDIENCE IS GOD'S LOVE.

THIS IS WHAT IS WRITTEN:
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
 
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Depending on the meaning in the context it is most probable that..we are Abraham's seed when what was applied to Him is applied to us. THE MOTIVES BEHIND OBEDIENCE IS GOD'S LOVE.

THIS IS WHAT IS WRITTEN:
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
If you can walk perfectly in obedience, then you are better than Peter.

Paul had to correct Peter for his treatment of the Gentiles in the Book of Galatians.

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Yes but we are not talking about the same thing. You are talking about keeping the Law, I am talking about obeying the Spirit
 
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Depending on the meaning in the context it is most probable that..we are Abraham's seed when what was applied to Him is applied to us. THE MOTIVES BEHIND OBEDIENCE IS GOD'S LOVE.

THIS IS WHAT IS WRITTEN:
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
Perfect in my opinion is a matter of obedience to God who is Spirit.
 
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I am God Almighty ; walk before me and be blameless. ... I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.

Gen17

Before the covenant was made Abraham had to walk blameless before the Lord.

But thing is....He did not say if...He commanded......that is interesting.

So you see it is not our work behind what we do, but God is before Abraham who is able to make Him stand.....

Liken to being given the Spirit of Christ to walk by it.
 
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