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...Such a bizarre thing to say.
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...Such a bizarre thing to say.
The media had nothing to do with the weak and unconvincing argument put up by the defense. Pool has no idea what he's talking about and it is clear from this "commentary" of his that those pictures of him hanging out with white supremacists was not just for show.Yes I was watching Tim Pool videos lots. The defense did a much better job than was widely reported in the press there should have been reasonable doubt on some of those charges. But meanwhile you got the jury being threatened enough where it was on the verge of a mistrial, even by the report of the Judge who should have sequestered the jury weeks or months ago. So this is as much mob justice as actual justice.
Nor do I. She is one of those black grifters that shows up every few years, where they claim they don't see color or hate focus on race, yet they make their entire careers about attacking black people. They know this is lucrative because ingratiating themselves to attacking black people as a black person makes them "unique" in the media landscape. It's dancing for that bag.I don't always agree with everything that Candace Owens has to say. From watching the video, things do not look good for Derek Chauvin at all, so I'm not surprised by a guilty verdict.
You rated my post funny?When on-duty LEOs abuse citizens, there is no justice available. Punishment of the individual is not justice because the officer brings down the full weight of government on the victim.
LEOs should be held to a higher standard, but qualified immunity holds them to a lower standard.
Blessed are we who trust to God for justice and mercy.
Peelian principles - Wikipedia
I'm reading about the Peelian Principles now...
The article says it is a "Policing by Consent" model. The Policing by consent model is;
1) Police are considered citizens with a uniform.
2) They have power to police their fellow citizens with the "implicit consent" of those fellow citizens.
3) Legitimacy of police comes from public support. Public support comes from transparency about powers, integrity in exercising powers and accountability.
Does the American police have this model?
The concept that the public consent to being policed? That this consent may be removed by the public is they deem it necessary?
Do they consider themselves fellow citizens with a job to do, or do they consider themselves a seperate branch of govt / state ?
Do they consider questions of legitimacy?
I think for starters, and I think it applies to any form of government, at the foundation would be as in 1 Peter 2:13-17, which is essentially punish those who do evil and praise those who do good.How about you?
Was Chauvin a problem officer with a history of violence against citizens? (I haven't read anything on this bit recently).I think over all police do follow the Peekian Principles. But not all of them for sure. In too many places they don't have accountability. The police unions have too much power when it come to disciplining or getting rid of bad cops. In too many cases it takes an incident like Chauvins to be able to get rid of the cop, when in reality he it she should have been gotten rid of a long time ago.
This is such rubbish. As a volunteer first responder I can assure you that people suffering from critical respiratory distress can say "I can't breath" up until the moment they lose consciousness and die. George Floyd was in obvious respiratory distress, and Chauvin ABSOLUTELY had a duty to respond to it. In not doing so he was criminally negligent.Ok...Chauvin was a dirty COP, but one thing, one simple thing was left out of this...if you can say "I can't breath" you can breath, Chauvin did not choke him out with his knee on his neck, as the Doctor who performed his autopsy claimed.
If you can talk, you have a patent airway...period. As the airway closes the "audibility" of speech diminishes, but it witnesses 20 feet away can hear him claim "I can't breath" then he can breath.
What evidence is there that the jury's decision was influenced by a mob? None.This is such rubbish. As a volunteer first responder I can assure you that people suffering from critical respiratory distress can say "I can't breath" up until the moment they lose consciousness and die. George Floyd was in obvious respiratory distress, and Chauvin ABSOLUTELY had a duty to respond to it. In not doing so he was criminally negligent.
Race hustlers like Maxine Waters are despicable, and her reckless stoking of the mob is very likely to result in this getting overturned on appeal. She and everyone like her should be ashamed of themselves.
It's just expected at this point as the anarcho communists Antifa have taken over the city of Portland. Riots, looting, burning down buildings are all common place. They don't actually care about black lives, they just use it to push their own agenda to destroy the "evil that is capitalism". Black lives matter really isn't so different in this however.
Race hustlers like Maxine Waters are despicable, and her reckless stoking of the mob is very likely to result in this getting overturned on appeal. She and everyone like her should be ashamed of themselves.
It sounds a bit like something one might say to a turkey, just prior to thrusting root vegetables into its lifeless abdominal cavity. :-/
Posted this before. Very little response.You think that he died from a drug overdose or an unknown act of God, and that it was merely a coincidence that a heavy man had his knee pressed on his neck for nine minutes?
That’s one heck of a coincidence don’t you think?
If Floyd was a 95 year old man with heart problems I suppose you would say that he died from natural causes because he was old and had a poor heart, and that the police officer’s conduct had nothing to do with his death?
It seems a bit silly to me for anyone to conclude that the police officer’s conduct was not a significant contributing factor in his death, as if he was certain to die anyway and it’s just a random coincidence that a police officer was sitting on his neck for 9 minutes.
Doesn't matter. There were huge mobs, she did everything she could stoke them against the jury, and the jury wasn't sequestered until they went into deliberations so there's little chance they didn't know about it. I'm not a lawyer, but it sounds like a slam dunk to me.What evidence is there that the jury's decision was influenced by a mob? None.
It would be appealed even if Waters hadn't acted that way, but she sure made the defense case for an appeal easier. I've learned to not try to predict judicial rulings, but if it's overturned because of the threats of mob action then I don't see any reasonable way to not overturn all of them.It will likely be appealed, and that will largely be Waters' fault, but do you think it will be overturned? Maybe one or two of the counts will be overturned, but I doubt all three will be overturned.
Do you own a TV and do you watch the news.What evidence is there that the jury's decision was influenced by a mob? None.
Did you even read my post? I was not giving my unsupported opinionYou think that he died from a drug overdose or an unknown act of God, and that it was merely a coincidence that a heavy man had his knee pressed on his neck for nine minutes.
That’s one heck of a coincidence don’t you think?
If Floyd was a 95 year old man with heart problems I suppose you would say that he died from natural causes because he was old and had a poor heart, and that the police officer’s conduct had nothing to do with his death?
It seems a bit silly to me for anyone to conclude that the police officer’s conduct was not a significant contributing factor in his death, as if he was certain to die anyway and it’s just a random coincidence that a police officer was sitting on his neck for 9 minutes.
Medical experts and scientific testimony countered what you're arguing and was far more convincing, including standing up to cross examination. If the jury was not convinced, then it's because the defense was weak (i.e., incorrect) or incompetent.Did you even read my post? I was not giving my unsupported opinion
.....Once again, it was the wrong verdict. The jury copped out from fear and reacted to all the insanity outside. Chauvin's knees on Floyd's neck and back could not have stopped him from breathing.
.....Wanting to see things for myself. I weighed myself 220 lbs, then knelt on the same scales with my toes on the floor just like Chauvin. Guess what only 166 lbs, that is 83 lbs per knee. Then I pressed up against a wall as close as I could, with my head turned to the side. I could easily pass my clinched fist between my neck and the wall. So what prevented Floyd from breathing? Certainly not the knee on his neck.
.....And I'm pretty sure one has to have air in their lungs to speak. If I can't breathe I can't talk. If I can talk then I can breathe.
.....So where did all this stuff come from? Remember the Michael Brown death, Ferguson Missouri? People running around holding up their hands yelling "Hands up, don't shoot." It never happened. Brown did NOT have his hands up and he was moving toward the officer when he was shot.
I read the grand jury findings one of the witnesses never saw what happened she was in a room away from the action and only repeated what her boyfriend told her. It was in the Grand Jury findings.